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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
If Anaheim chooses to protect more Defenseman....could Cogliano be available? He's an ideal 3C, imo.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

What?
PhillyCheese
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 02.01.2017

Jun 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
If Anaheim chooses to protect more Defenseman....could Cogliano be available? He's an ideal 3C, imo.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

and since when is he C ?
PensFan1962
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.13.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
I hope they both read this blog...and pass.

5.5 million for a third line center? Nope.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
Wow. Ducks buying out Simon Despres.

Even GMJR's "bad" trades seem to be coming up gold.
mont23
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 16 @ 12:18 PM ET
Wow. Ducks buying out Simon Despres.

Even GMJR's "bad" trades seem to be coming up gold.

- cap1681


The second coming of Booby Orr was bought out? What is the world coming to?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:18 PM ET
Wow. Ducks buying out Simon Despres.

Even GMJR's "bad" trades seem to be coming up gold.

- cap1681

Yeah, shame what's happened with his career. Hope he gets healthy!
Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
I hope they both read this blog...and pass.

5.5 million for a third line center? Nope.

- PensFan1962


Someone gets it! From what I saw this past season offence isn't the main issue to take care of, its defence and would much have a puck moving defenceman for 5.5m/year then a third line centre making it. Bonino will take 3/3.5m a year and stay.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
Older players like Thornton, Kunitz, etc need to be offered "Please let me play the game money" and nothing more

It's what made the Cullen signing so great. At 38 he was 1 year $700k, at 39 after a great season 1 year at $1 million

Kunitz: 1 year 1.5 million or 2 years 2.5 million

Thornton: 1 year 3 million, 2 years 5.5 million

ABSOLUTE MAX
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
Word is Montreal is not going to qualify Nikita Nesterov.. Pens should scoop him up in a heart beat.
- j.boyd919

Interesting. Is his lack of GP due to injury or Cooper?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
Someone gets it! From what I saw this past season offence isn't the main issue to take care of, its defence and would much have a puck moving defenceman for 5.5m/year then a third line centre making it. Bonino will take 3/3.5m a year and stay.
- Darklight11

Bonino probably won't make that much less than Thornton. I'd guess they'll be within a million. If you feel that gives you an advantage, you can find 1M.

They need to address both really. And while offense isn't a problem, the goal should just be to improve, doesn't matter where. Pens have the ability with a good 3C to create mismatches.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:46 PM ET
I just believe Sam Bennett will be an amazing player in the NHL. If GMJR is looking for physical & skill players, then I hope GMJR targets this type of player: YOUNGER, with great skill, and some grit (Bennett was 4th on CGY forwards in hits with only 14+ TOI last year).

Here is youtube of Bennett scoring some goals. all these goals where in one game!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pt72XoUifI

Here he is with some nice goals and some speed!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lPxcXk0zfQQ

Grit: Just for you Boyd (just kidding I like Trouba, too - but difficult to get him)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXhJdGKJ2E

- so_buzz11


You have to let Sam Bennett go...its not happening...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
Wow. Ducks buying out Simon Despres.

Even GMJR's "bad" trades seem to be coming up gold.

- cap1681



I would totally take him back on the cheap.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
Sign Brendan Smith. Sign Nesterov. Blueger, DP, and a 2nd to NJ for Kovalchuk. Re-sign Dumo, Schultz, and Sheary.

Sheary - Sid - Guentzel
Hagelin - Geno - Kessel
Kovalchuk - Sundqvist - Rust
Wilson - Rowney - Horny

Smith - Letang
Maatta - Schultz
Dumo - Nesterov
Cole

Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

Jun 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
Thornton's not leaving San Jose...sorry.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Pens signed Filip Gustavsson to a 3 year entry level contract today. So he'll be around the AHL this year.
tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Omaha, NE
Joined: 12.29.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Pens signed Filip Gustavsson to a 3 year entry level contract today. So he'll be around the AHL this year.
- MattStrat

He's staying in Sweden this upcoming season


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Thornton's not leaving San Jose...sorry.
- Team_Teal

Yeah he was never treated wrong there. Not like they stripped the C from him or anything.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
Interesting. Is his lack of GP due to injury or Cooper?
- Thorny87


Cooper. He picks and choose his players that he is going to keep on a short leash. Drouin and Nesterov were always in the doghouse a lot.

He's like... a younger version of Trevor Daley
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
He's staying in Sweden this upcoming season



- tpcg402


Oh haha...well thanks for setting me straight. IMO he's better off in AHL for development...but I'm not the GM...and not back to back Stanley Cup team building GM at that...I'll trust the decision/process.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
I would totally take him back on the cheap.
- MattStrat

Looked around and Despres actually came off IR and was skating in the playoffs but didn't get in a game. Maybe not quite healed, maybe too rusty. But I'd be interested in taking a look.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
Looked around and Despres actually came off IR and was skating in the playoffs but didn't get in a game. Maybe not quite healed, maybe too rusty. But I'd be interested in taking a look.
- Tojo.


He's a righty, can skate and move the puck efficiently. He also loves blocking shots and playing with a bit of an edge.

I wouldnt mind having him for depth. Not one bit.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:22 PM ET
Looked around and Despres actually came off IR and was skating in the playoffs but didn't get in a game. Maybe not quite healed, maybe too rusty. But I'd be interested in taking a look.
- Tojo.


I'd love to get him back assuming he is past his injuries. That was a pretty high priced contract he had so they might be able to get him on a 1yr show me. Good bottom pairing option.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:31 PM ET
He's a righty, can skate and move the puck efficiently. He also loves blocking shots and playing with a bit of an edge.

I wouldnt mind having him for depth. Not one bit.

- MattStrat

Lefty, but plays either D well. Stronger defensively than offensively, but not a disaster their either. Would be a nice guy to take a chance on. I definitely would like to add a good buy low candidate for that 3rd pairing spot.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
I personally hope Bonino gets blown out the water from a contract in UFA. He has been criminally underpaid his entire career and deserves a big contract.
- cap1681


yep bonino needs paid. Thornton needs a cup. Swapping them makes a lot of sense for both players.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
Lefty, but plays either D well. Stronger defensively than offensively, but not a disaster their either. Would be a nice guy to take a chance on. I definitely would like to add a good buy low candidate for that 3rd pairing spot.
- Tojo.



I always thought he was a righty...perhaps he mainly played RD despite this?
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