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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
Strip Giroux of the C
- Mordecai


Why stop at the C! Strip him of everything, even his clothes and equipment
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
Re: Lehtonen


The last thing we need in Philly is a goalie who cant win in Philly..

- jak521

Niemi can
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
Why stop at the C! Strip him of everything, even his clothes and equipment
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
Provorov-Gudas
AMac-Hagg
Morin-Ghost
Manning

- BiggE



Kind of a change in thinking but with montreal wanting to get defense and looking to move Galchenyuk, would you be ok moving Guads to Montreal for Galchenyuk and maybe a 2nd rounder?

Would you take a lesser pick if they took Read?

Something like:

To Philly: Galchenyuk+ 2nd rounder/2rd rounder
To Montreal: Gudas, possibly Read

You still have Macdonald so you still have a vet to play some top 4 minutes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Kind of a change in thinking but with montreal wanting to get defense and looking to move Galchenyuk, would you be ok moving Guads to Montreal for Galchenyuk and maybe a 2nd rounder?

Would you take a lesser pick if they took Read?

Something like:

To Philly: Galchenyuk+ 2nd rounder/2rd rounder
To Montreal: Gudas, possibly Read

You still have Macdonald so you still have a vet to play some top 4 minutes.

- J35Bacher


I would actually love it if his name was Guads
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
Niemi can
- YuenglingJagr


too soon
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Kind of a change in thinking but with montreal wanting to get defense and looking to move Galchenyuk, would you be ok moving Guads to Montreal for Galchenyuk and maybe a 2nd rounder?

Would you take a lesser pick if they took Read?

Something like:

To Philly: Galchenyuk+ 2nd rounder/2rd rounder
To Montreal: Gudas, possibly Read

You still have Macdonald so you still have a vet to play some top 4 minutes.

- J35Bacher


Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Why stop at the C! Strip him of everything, even his clothes and equipment
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Keeping MacDonald is fine for now. His buyout isn't too bad if they want to go that route next year or the year after. I just wish they'd play him on the third pair. Gudas is far more equipped to handle top pair duties with Provorov.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yes and no. MacDonald is better defensively than Gudas is.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Kind of a change in thinking but with montreal wanting to get defense and looking to move Galchenyuk, would you be ok moving Guads to Montreal for Galchenyuk and maybe a 2nd rounder?

Would you take a lesser pick if they took Read?

Something like:

To Philly: Galchenyuk+ 2nd rounder/2rd rounder
To Montreal: Gudas, possibly Read

You still have Macdonald so you still have a vet to play some top 4 minutes.

- J35Bacher


If Montreal does this Bergevin needs to be fired immediately. a 30 goal scorer and a 2nd rounder for Gudas? What are you on?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
As I've said, I'm trying to remain positive about the goaltending but am actually kinda horrified at what the Flyers will have next season

A pairing of Neuvrith/Niemi or Neuvirth/Lehtonen, coming off the years where Steve Mason actively helped this team win games...my goodness

I don't even know, folks. I'd try hard to give it a chance, but my goodness
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Kind of a change in thinking but with montreal wanting to get defense and looking to move Galchenyuk, would you be ok moving Guads to Montreal for Galchenyuk and maybe a 2nd rounder?

Would you take a lesser pick if they took Read?

Something like:

To Philly: Galchenyuk+ 2nd rounder/2rd rounder
To Montreal: Gudas, possibly Read

You still have Macdonald so you still have a vet to play some top 4 minutes.

- J35Bacher

why would montreal ever accept that?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
Yes and no. MacDonald is better defensively than Gudas is.
- MJL

OHHHHHHHH poop

bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
why would montreal ever accept that?
- Mordecai


well that seems to be the question everyone else is having
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
OHHHHHHHH poop
- Mordecai


Whoever said the thread was boring earlier better get their popcorn ready
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 16 @ 12:08 PM ET
As I've said, I'm trying to remain positive about the goaltending but am actually kinda horrified at what the Flyers will have next season

A pairing of Neuvrith/Niemi or Neuvirth/Lehtonen, coming off the years where Steve Mason actively helped this team win games...my goodness

I don't even know, folks. I'd try hard to give it a chance, but my goodness

- AllInForFlyers


I'm obviously waiting to see how the offseason shakes out but if that is what we have come game 1 of the season, yikes. The organization has made a huge mistake and someone should be held accountable or at the very least there needs to be reflection as to how this happened and why Mason was mishandled.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
Whoever said the thread was boring earlier better get their popcorn ready
- arichardson22


yes hi i'm here
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:10 PM ET
https://public.tableau.co...TB7F4N?:display_count=yes

I tried embedding this link directly but i'm an idiot apparently so you have to click the link for HERO charts comparing Gudas and MacDonald. I'll let you guys be the judge.

If someone is able to embed the chart or help me out that would be great.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 16 @ 12:12 PM ET
https://public.tableau.co...TB7F4N?:display_count=yes

I tried embedding this link directly but i'm an idiot apparently so you have to click the link for HERO charts comparing Gudas and MacDonald. I'll let you guys be the judge.

- Mordecai


Too many instructions.

Fail.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:12 PM ET
Why stop at the C! Strip him of everything, even his clothes and equipment
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

We only do poop like that in AprilXXX
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:12 PM ET
I'm obviously waiting to see how the offseason shakes out but if that is what we have come game 1 of the season, yikes. The organization has made a huge mistake and someone should be held accountable or at the very least there needs to be reflection as to how this happened and why Mason was mishandled.
- StepfordSam


It's so early, I really am trying not to panic -- it's June. Long way to go, and there are options that can be pursued that might be feasible

But holy cow. I mean, wow. Neuvirth/Elliott, Neuvirth/Niemi...my goodness. That can't be all there is
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:12 PM ET
Too many instructions.

Fail.

- flyer_nutter

i'm not even stoned and my entire afternoon is (frank)ed
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 16 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yes and no. MacDonald is better defensively than Gudas is.
- MJL


YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:14 PM ET

- StepfordSam

Lol
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:14 PM ET
Spoiler alert: Statistically Gudas is a better defenseman
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