For real? Good for them -- the Fultz kid is a freaking good player, if that's who they go with
- AllInForFlyers

I'd be okay if they stood pat for Josh Jackson also.

Would rather have MCW
- PhillySportsGuy

LOL

Yeah, I'm sure they'd be burning through assets that Hinkie acquired, but let's not pretend that if he wasn't still running the show that they'd have done 26 more trades by now and they'd still have no idea when they'd be good

I give Hinkie all the credit in the world for acquiring a ton of assets. But you can't ignore that the guy did, indeed, draft MCW in the first place

We can agree to disagree, and I hope they're good soon

I'd rather it be the Lakers pick. They'll likely sign some big name FA this offseason and might not be at the top of the lottery again next year.
- Sublime55

Magic already said the Lakers aren't going to be major players in FA this year. They'll wait for next year when guys like George and Cousins are free agents.

The Lakers will be bad. The pick will be high. The trade is worth it. Gotta give to get.

Would rather have MCW
- PhillySportsGuy

Derrrr who trades the raining rookie of da year?! Will the Sixers evuh be goooood?! This is a BAD move.

Magic already said the Lakers aren't going to be major players in FA this year. They'll wait for next year when guys like George and Cousins are free agents.

The Lakers will be bad. The pick will be high. The trade is worth it. Gotta give to get.
- PhillySportsGuy

I thought I heard though that LBJ to LA was becoming a possibility, maybe next year. Anyways, from what I've read, there are some other legit PGs in the top-10 and it seemed like there wasn't as clear separation between Fultz and everybody else as was previously thought.

LOL

Yeah, I'm sure they'd be burning through assets that Hinkie acquired, but let's not pretend that if he wasn't still running the show that they'd have done 26 more trades by now and they'd still have no idea when they'd be good

I give Hinkie all the credit in the world for acquiring a ton of assets. But you can't ignore that the guy did, indeed, draft MCW in the first place

We can agree to disagree, and I hope they're good soon
- AllInForFlyers

He made a mistake in drafting MCW but rectified it before other teams caught on. I see that as being more impressive than simply drafting an all star at #11. Also, the 11th pick in the NBA is like the 22nd pick in the NHL. It was a historically weak draft as well, so let's not pretend that missing on one player is an indictment of his scouting ability.

Other than Hinkie drafting Giannis (he was projected to be in the 20s by most scouts), it's hard to say that this isn't the best case scenario for that pick.

I thought I heard though that LBJ to LA was becoming a possibility, maybe next year. Anyways, from what I've read, there are some other legit PGs in the top-10 and it seemed like there wasn't as clear separation between Fultz and everybody else as was previously thought.
- Sublime55

Lebron is under contract in CLE for next season.

You can count on one hand the number of people who don't believe Fultz is the easy #1 this year.

If you were drawing up a prospect to pair with Embiid and Simmonds, it would be Fultz.

Lebron is under contract in CLE for next season.

You can count on one hand the number of people who don't believe Fultz is the easy #1 this year.

If you were drawing up a prospect to pair with Embiid and Simmonds, it would be Fultz.
- PhillySportsGuy

I hear ya, I'm just not so over-the-moon for Fultz that I would trade a whole host of their future picks (given the depth of this draft) and I worry about BC's negotiations with Ainge opposite him. I also happen to really like Josh Jackson, but if they get the first pick at a fair price, I would certainly be ok with it

I hear ya, I'm just not so over-the-moon for Fultz that I would trade a whole host of their future picks (given the depth of this draft) and I worry about BC's negotiations with Ainge opposite him. I also happen to really like Josh Jackson, but if they get the first pick at a fair price, I would certainly be ok with it
- Sublime55

If Celtics have brooklyn and Lakers pick they very well could draft 1 2 next year. And us with Sacramento we could be 3. That would be a pretty impressive deal on both ends.

I think Boston sees Josh Jackson as an iggy type player (at least I do) And think they'll grab him at 3 and than in return get 2 top 3 picks next year ? Absolutely sold. Could move one for a guy like butler from Chicago a long with JJ and come back and really challenge the cavs. And even with those moves they could still sign a guy like Hayward or Blake... holy poop Boston

I hear ya, I'm just not so over-the-moon for Fultz that I would trade a whole host of their future picks (given the depth of this draft) and I worry about BC's negotiations with Ainge opposite him. I also happen to really like Josh Jackson, but if they get the first pick at a fair price, I would certainly be ok with it
- Sublime55

A future Sixers pick is likely a low lottery role player type. They could even contend for a playoff spot. That pick is a throw-in. The Lakers pick has a lot of value, yes, but not more than Fultz. His fit is also perfect. From my limited knowledge, unless the Lakers pick #1 next year and select someone like Doncic, and that's far from a given, the worst case scenario is the Sixers break even in value. Far more likely is we come out winners in a big way. We're getting the surer thing too. This is the piece this team needs, and even if the Lakers pick converts to a great player along with #3, the Sixers are far enough along in the rebuild that raw value doesn't matter as much. And again, it's the Celtics that are taking the risk.

Jackson's shooting is really scary, especially as it has been an issue since HS. His abysmal free throw % confirms what a long shot it is to improve his shooting. The fit isn't good either.

He made a mistake in drafting MCW but rectified it before other teams caught on. I see that as being more impressive than simply drafting an all star at #11. Also, the 11th pick in the NBA is like the 22nd pick in the NHL. It was a historically weak draft as well, so let's not pretend that missing on one player is an indictment of his scouting ability.

Other than Hinkie drafting Giannis (he was projected to be in the 20s by most scouts), it's hard to say that this isn't the best case scenario for that pick.
- PhillySportsGuy

I believe Schroeder from Atlanta was also on the board. Okafor was a mistake even with protection for Embed because he is so slow with his foot speed. I don't hold it against Hinkle for draft failings. Tanking has been going on for decades. Hinkie took it a level of openness that the hierarchy of the NBA wasn't going to tolerate. Let's face it, expecting Josh Harris to not cave from league pressure would be unrealistic.

If Celtics have brooklyn and Lakers pick they very well could draft 1 2 next year. And us with Sacramento we could be 3. That would be a pretty impressive deal on both ends.

I think Boston sees Josh Jackson as an iggy type player (at least I do) And think they'll grab him at 3 and than in return get 2 top 3 picks next year ? Absolutely sold. Could move one for a guy like butler from Chicago a long with JJ and come back and really challenge the cavs. And even with those moves they could still sign a guy like Hayward or Blake... holy poop Boston
- Tfaehner

The NBA is all about star talent. I have to imagine the Celtics are gearing up to sign Hayward and trade for Butler or George.

There are only so many picks you can make. Ainge has consistently put himself in a position where he's forced to draft guys he doesn't really like because he refused to make a deal.

Gotta be honest, this deal is baffling for Boston.

A future Sixers pick is likely a low lottery role player type. They could even contend for a playoff spot. That pick is a throw-in. The Lakers pick has a lot of value, yes, but not more than Fultz. His fit is also perfect. From my limited knowledge, unless the Lakers pick #1 next year and select someone like Doncic, and that's far from a given, the worst case scenario is the Sixers break even in value. Far more likely is we come out winners in a big way. We're getting the surer thing too. This is the piece this team needs, and even if the Lakers pick converts to a great player along with #3, the Sixers are far enough along in the rebuild that raw value doesn't matter as much. And again, it's the Celtics that are taking the risk.

Jackson's shooting is really scary, especially as it has been an issue since HS. His abysmal free throw % confirms what a long shot it is to improve his shooting. The fit isn't good either.
- Mononoke

Jackson would fit perfectly on the Celtics, but the upside of Fultz is so high. Sixers now have players who could be top 5 at guard, forward and center all under the age of 23. They also have a young 3&D in Covington and a good 6th man in Saric.

#TTP

For real? Good for them -- the Fultz kid is a freaking good player, if that's who they go with
- AllInForFlyers

As in I'd do the deal ha

Jackson would fit perfectly on the Celtics, but the upside of Fultz is so high. Sixers now have players who could be top 5 at guard, forward and center all under the age of 23. They also have a young 3&D in Covington and a good 6th man in Saric.

#TTP
- PhillySportsGuy

WHEN THE (frank) IS SUMMER LEAGUE BRO.

Next Thursday-Saturday gon be lit like a quasar.

What does "butts in seats" have to do with your ridiculous idea that Vegas would have trouble signing free agents and therefore needs to rely on the expansion draft to hit the cap floor? If Arizona can sign crappy free agents like Jamie McGinn and Luke Schenn to reach the cap floor, please explain why Vegas wouldn't be able to.

Gudas was used in as many situations as MacDonald last year, and did better in all of them.
- Feanor

The players you sign put the butts in seats. In case you haven't noticed not all destinations attract UFAs. Detroit for example was once a landing spot for UFAs but now, I believe Mike Green two offseasons ago was their first major signing since Marian Hossa. What interest will UFAs have if Vegas doesn't do well in the expansion draft. Recent UFA classes today aren't like the one we had in the summer of 2000 when stars didn't get extended instantly. By the way bud, Arizona has Pronger and Datsyuk under contract. Whoops.

I can't wait to see Radko Gudas as a main stay on the PP next season.

The players you sign put the butts in seats. In case you haven't noticed not all destinations attract UFAs. Detroit for example was once a landing spot for UFAs but now, I believe Mike Green two offseasons ago was their first major signing since Marian Hossa. What interest will UFAs have if Vegas doesn't do well in the expansion draft. Recent UFA classes today aren't like the one we had in the summer of 2000 when stars didn't get extended instantly. By the way bud, Arizona has Pronger and Datsyuk under contract. Whoops.

I can't wait to see Radko Gudas as a main stay on the PP next season.
- SuperSchennBros

Your original point that was Vegas would consider MacDonald because they need to use the ED to reach the cap floor. This is patently false. They have already signed a $4.5m free agent and will be signing more after July 1st. The very worst American franchise in the league attracted free agents last summer, and Vegas is a more attractive destination than Arizona. Detroit signed a $5.25m AAV free agent last year.

PP time is a very odd thing to hang your hat on considering MacDonald averaged 6 seconds per game and Gudas averaged 4. I guess it just shows you still haven't gotten over Hextall kicking your boy to the curb and extending the "inferior" Gudas.

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Sounds like smaller trade going down between Flyers and Coyotes.





THIS IS THE BIG ONE!

- StepfordSam

Now this is how a meme should be used!

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Sounds like smaller trade going down between Flyers and Coyotes.





THIS IS THE BIG ONE!
- PhillySportsGuy

hmmmmm......they need forwards to protect. Maybe we trade them Cousins or something for a 2018 pick?

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Sounds like smaller trade going down between Flyers and Coyotes.





THIS IS THE BIG ONE!
- PhillySportsGuy

I smell a Schenn involved

hmmmmm......they need forwards to protect. Maybe we trade them Cousins or something?
- Mononoke

That's what I was thinking

That's what I was thinking
- PhillySportsGuy

Or maybe Meat

Or maybe Meat
- Mononoke

Appears to be Cousins

Appears to be Cousins
- PhillySportsGuy

I think it's a good move by Chayka. He can be a depth regular for them. Graded out well in the stats, as he would know. Probably traded nothing for him.