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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
That is the sad part, our suspect defense is better than our forward group.
It is going to take one pick at a time to fix this mess.
Hopefully we build through the draft, and occasional trade for a young piece.

- Reubenkincade


That is very true but with OJ in the wings & this draft & next we can draft them.
Potential for the Dahlin sweepstakes is enticing for sure.
Brisebois is the forgotten piece & Chatfield is a solid defensive D for the future.
Tryamkin is still in the picture as well.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
Patience is needed.

I'm all in for some hysteria though.

- hillbillydeluxe

Friday's the new Tuesday!

Erikson for ceci
Tanev&55 for landeskog
Edler and Subban for 3oa
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
It does get rather entertaining.
- Reubenkincade


we could do with another poor finish and high draft pick, but if it isn't in the top 3, we will see some villagers with torches and pitchforks headed to gate 16.

but like you said, draft and develop and hopefully some of these prospects become productive nhlers.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
Friday's the new Tuesday!

Erikson for ceci
Tanev&55 for landeskog
Edler and Subban for 3oa

- neem55



So much for patience lol
U dream as well as i do though 😂👍
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
Friday's the new Tuesday!

Erikson for ceci
Tanev&55 for landeskog
Edler and Subban for 3oa

- neem55

I wouldn't mind trading Tanev for 3OA then making a trade for either Ceci or Dumba
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
Off to another tangent...

I do like how JB is building up the character on our roster.
Of all the intangibles it is a high priority in my books.
Its also the hardest thing to measure but is a necessity.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 2:53 PM ET
I wouldn't mind trading Tanev for 3OA then making a trade for either Ceci or Dumba
- Retinalz


IMO Ceci is untouchable tbh.
He would fetch a ton.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
Friday's the new Tuesday!

Erikson for ceci
Tanev&55 for landeskog
Edler and Subban for 3oa

- neem55


Your trade proposals dont say "win-now" enough for me to get hysterical. Can we see some proposals for Varlamov, OEL, Jordan Staal, or Ryan O'Reilly where we give up some picks and prospects to get into the WC hunt?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
I wouldn't mind trading Tanev for 3OA then making a trade for either Ceci or Dumba
- Retinalz


yep. The Vegas draft is interesting, there is opportunity with teams wanting to make moves or lose assets but to take advantage of this you could lose or have to expose an asset yourself. Just waiting on some trades or signings.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:00 PM ET
Off to another tangent...

I do like how JB is building up the character on our roster.
Of all the intangibles it is a high priority in my books.
Its also the hardest thing to measure but is a necessity.

- Nighthawk


?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:01 PM ET
?
- pker2theend




Haven't you been hearing how great Gudbranson is off the ice?


JV is a character too.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
IMO Ceci is untouchable tbh.
He would fetch a ton.

- Nighthawk

Karlson, Methot, Phaneuf are their 3 protected D. I doubt they do 4-4-1. Ceci will be avail or lost to LV.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
Say for a moment we get Gally for Tanev & our expansion roster is fine...

Dank Hank Granny
Sven BO Boeser
Goldy Gally LE
JV Sutter DD

Does that look balanced & deep?
Ignore the usual what line is what number...
Also factor in the Sedins retire after next season.

- Nighthawk


Those forward lines look great, shame we would have an AHL/ECHL quality D-corps supporting them...

That said, I'm all for a Tanev for Gally trade. Kid has ELITE hands, though poor and lazy D-zone play. After watching him play in MTL, he seems much better suited for the wing.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:07 PM ET
Karlson, Methot, Phaneuf are their 3 protected D. I doubt they do 4-4-1. Ceci will be avail or lost to LV.
- Retinalz


Could they expose Methot?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 16 @ 3:10 PM ET
yep. The Vegas draft is interesting, there is opportunity with teams wanting to make moves or lose assets but to take advantage of this you could lose or have to expose an asset yourself. Just waiting on some trades or signings.
- hillbillydeluxe


Yup only 24 hours until trade freeze kicks in. Should be interesting.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
Those forward lines look great, shame we would have an AHL/ECHL quality D-corps supporting them...

That said, I'm all for a Tanev for Gally trade. Kid has ELITE hands, though poor and lazy D-zone play. After watching him play in MTL, he seems much better suited for the wing.

- Whiskey-Tango



Then why trade for him? It's like trading for Kane. Why give up the last best tradable asset away for a winger. Doesn't this team need top C & D more? Wouldn't a trade for draft picks and prospects be more attainable to fill the needs?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 16 @ 3:22 PM ET


People wanting to add this guy as a UFA is why Aquaman has been avoiding a rebuild. Canucks rebuild started 20 regular season games ago, and fans already want to add a guy that will turn 27 for the first puck drop of his next contract so the team will "contend" for a WC spot

- WhiteLie


There is only a few people that are advocating to have this individual on the Canucks, and I'm not one of them...regardless if someone states that his substance abuse and his destructive abusive attitudes are behind him.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
Then why trade for him? It's like trading for Kane. Why give up the last best tradable asset away for a winger. Doesn't this team need top C & D more? Wouldn't a trade for draft picks and prospects be more attainable to fill the needs?
- Nuck4U


Nonsense. He's only 23. MTL's problem was attempting to rush him into being a first line C. At the moment, (in MTL), he's better suited for the wing due to the fact that they remain without a top 6 center, exposing him against match-ups he's not ready for. If we acquired him, we could ease him in on the 3rd line or so.

We would trade for him because he would instantly become our best and likely most productive forward, be it on the wing or at C. Given his trajectory, I think it's safe to assume he will be a PPG player in the league.

Moving a 28 year old D-man for a 23 year old who has already notched 30 goals is a no-brainer.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
Could they expose Methot?
- hillbillydeluxe



Yes. They should over Ceci.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Could they expose Methot?
- hillbillydeluxe

Yes
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 16 @ 3:28 PM ET
Those forward lines look great, shame we would have an AHL/ECHL quality D-corps supporting them...

That said, I'm all for a Tanev for Gally trade. Kid has ELITE hands, though poor and lazy D-zone play. After watching him play in MTL, he seems much better suited for the wing.

- Whiskey-Tango



While the D corps lags behind it helps us pick high in future drafts.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 16 @ 3:31 PM ET
Nonsense. He's only 23. MTL's problem was attempting to rush him into being a first line C. At the moment, (in MTL), he's better suited for the wing due to the fact that they remain without a top 6 center, exposing him against match-ups he's not ready for. If we acquired him, we could ease him in on the 3rd line or so.

We would trade for him because he would instantly become our best and likely most productive forward, be it on the wing or at C. Given his trajectory, I think it's safe to assume he will be a PPG player in the league.

Moving a 28 year old D-man for a 23 year old who has already notched 30 goals is a no-brainer.

- Whiskey-Tango



No it's not in the big picture. Not saying it's a bad trade value wise. It's just why make that trade given the needs? If he's not good enough to be a C for a Habs team desperate for C then he's not going to develop into more on this thin on top C team. But more so it's not like JB has any more assets to move. So what's more important?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 16 @ 3:35 PM ET
Could they expose Methot?
- hillbillydeluxe

According to a few fans they would rather Methot than Ceci on the team.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
Greetings,

Taking a look at Gudbranson's new deal, looking back at the trade one year later and wondering if Jonathan Drouin is a comparable for Bo Horvat's new contract, in the new blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...tract-extension/194/85794
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
That guy must b on something stoneger than BC weed. Wow.
- allsports

no kidding....wow
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