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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Do we not have the ability to make other trades or sign FA's?

This is my entire point, people are treating 9 and 23 is if they are irreplaceable.

They scored 43 and 47 points respectively. Not 60 and 70.

I agree with having 3 scoring lines. But without a competent top 4, it's a moot point, and before you bring up Pitt winning this year without a good D, they got bailed out against WSH by MAF and have 2 generational centers

- sbroads24



Guys like Versteeg & Vrbata are garbage

Show me a mock lineup
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
Great news!

http://www.tsn.ca/okposo-...of-training-camp-1.780605
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
I like Phaneuf. He is not as good as he used to be but he would be a huge upgrade to most our or Dmen currently. He wants 1st unit PP time as well which he did not get in Ottawa
- lulags



He wouldn't get it here either
Jack & Risto on the points

And his contract blows
No thanks
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
I still cant get over that moment where he absolutely smoked Ghule in preseason. I thought that was one of the scummiest moves ive ever seen.
- MCGUIZZY


Pure scumbag but If he is dishing it out for us I can tolerate it
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
Guys like Versteeg & Vrbata are garbage

Show me a mock lineup

- jdfitz77

Garbage?

Vrbata out scored both Kane and Reinhart with 55 points on AZ

He's a stop gap until guys like Nylander, Bailey, Baptiste, Fasching, Pu,
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
He wouldn't get it here either
Jack & Risto on the points

And his contract blows
No thanks

- jdfitz77


Anyone who takes him is going to expect Ottawa to eat some
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
He's not total trash but is he worth the next paycheck he is going to want? Not to mention if he has value they do need D and some GM may still be enamored with him and give up more now than in the future regarding the D we need. Don't let him become Kyle Turris before he is dealt.
- GilPerreault11



Kyle Turris is the top center on a team who was 1 goal away from beating the back to back Cup champs

He's a good player

And a good comparison
Arizona gave up on him too early, & look at him now

And his next contract?
I'm guessing 5mil
I expect Sam to be a 60point player if moved back to center where he belongs
His assists will go up significantly & will still score 20+ goals
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
I'm excited to see what a healthy Okposo playing a full season looks like
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
PPG last year

Versteeg .53
Vrbata .67
Kane .61
Reinhart .59


Huge drop off
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
Pure scumbag but If he is dishing it out for us I can tolerate it
- lulags



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Garbage?

Vrbata out scored both Kane and Reinhart with 55 points on AZ

He's a stop gap until guys like Nylander, Bailey, Baptiste, Fasching, Pu,

- sbroads24



Ok, that was harsh
But the previous season he had 27pts
Also... he's 35
Coming off that good season,
why would he sign here when he can go to a better team?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
If we stand pat and settle for mediocrity I'm going to be veryyy disappointed in new GM

At this point unless he's talked to Kane and he sounds open to extending we need to trade him TODAY for a top pairing Dman throw in Girgensons, Foligno or a mid round draft pick too.

If not Kane fine do the 8th overall pick. Just show some balls and get on with it!!!

- bluengold12



except none of that gets you a top pair guy. If anything it would take more balls to come in and do nothing right away given the pressure thats on him.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET

- MCGUIZZY





Dion Phaneuf at 35 with a no trade clause and $7 mil cap hit. Keep far, far away
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
PPG last year

Versteeg .53
Vrbata .67
Kane .61
Reinhart .59


Huge drop off

- sbroads24




Vrbata is 35 & not signing here

Versteeg hasn't scored more than 30pts in over 6 years
He sucks

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ok, that was harsh
But the previous season he had 27pts
Also... he's 35
Coming off that good season,
why would he sign here when he can go to a better team?

- jdfitz77

Stop gap. 1 or 2 year solution.

There are others too.

Like we mentioned, Neal might have to be moved.

I'm not advocating to just throw away Reinhart, I'm advocating to fix the D
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
Ok, that was harsh
But the previous season he had 27pts
Also... he's 35
Coming off that good season,
why would he sign here when he can go to a better team?

- jdfitz77


I would take Kane or Reinhart over Vrbada any da, the guy is freakin 36
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
Anyone who takes him is going to expect Ottawa to eat some
- lulags



Still don't want him
The length of the deal also sucks

And he won't get top PP time here
Would he be happy?


I want zero to do with Phaneuf
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
Even if he hasn't (which I think he has come close to, but not his full ceiling) he's never supplanting ROR or Eichel on the depth chart

and again, I'll trade a 3rd line center or 50 point winger for a 2/3 D man all day every day

- sbroads24



Michelangelo reached his ceiling pretty quickly, but it took 4 hard years before his ceiling was completed.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
Stop gap. 1 or 2 year solution.

There are others too.

Like we mentioned, Neal might have to be moved.

I'm not advocating to just throw away Reinhart, I'm advocating to fix the D

- sbroads24




He's not signing here!!!
Still waiting for a mock lineup

Again... Versteeg sucks
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
Vrbata is 35 & not signing here

Versteeg hasn't scored more than 30pts in over 6 years
He sucks

- jdfitz77

5 on 5 points per 60 this past year

Reinhart 1.51
Versteeg 1.49

One plays on the 3rd line, other plays on the 1st

They literally produce the same rate 5 on 5
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
I would take Kane or Reinhart over Vrbada any da, the guy is freakin 36
- lulags



Anyone who's not insane would

But yeah... let's trade guys 25 & under and replace them with mediocre talent above 30

No freaking thanks
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
5 on 5 points per 60 this past year

Reinhart 1.51
Versteeg 1.49

One plays on the 3rd line, other plays on the 1st

They literally produce the same rate 5 on 5

- sbroads24



Versteeg is so good...
yet no good team will sign him & he's stuck on the 3rd line
He sucks

And if he was as good as u think...
wouldn't he have better offers than Buffalo?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Anyone who's not insane would

But yeah... let's trade guys 25 & under and replace them with mediocre talent above 30

No freaking thanks

- jdfitz77



It's like you purposely misunderstand everything

It's not trading Reinhart for Vrbata, it's trading Reinhart for a good D man, and signing Vrbata.

But whatever. You wouldn't do it, great
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Dion Phaneuf at 35 with a no trade clause and $7 mil cap hit. Keep far, far away
- jcragcrumple



Yea its a miserable contract
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Dreger: "I believe that Buffalo absolutely would trade Robin Lehner, and I believe that they want to trade Evander Kane." #Sabres
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