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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:00 AM ET
Two trade proposals I would consider:

Kane for one of Dallas's goalies and Honka. Maybe Buffalo adds a low pick or prospect. Then either see what you could get for Lehner or resign him and put whichever goalie you got from Dallas in Rochester. Each one only has a year left so not a big deal.


Kane, Nelson and Minny's 2nd for Dumba and Pommers. Not that I am for bringing Pommers back, but they want to shed his salary.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
Reinhart drafted to play center but not good enough going into his third year. Setting the league on fire with 8 5v5 goals in his 2nd year. played center and was given the keys to drive the car when Eichel was out and he showed next to nothing when the Sabres were scoring 1.something goals a game. If he didn't wear the Sabres crest would there be this blind devotion?
- GilPerreault11


I think 4 more years into RORs contract, you'll see him on Eichels wing, and Sam at #2c
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jun 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
How would we feel about:

Sam Reinhart
2017 1st rounder

to Minnesota for

Jonas Brodin or Matt Dumba
Nino Niederreiter


Too crazy?

- MCGUIZZY


Wow that's a lot to give up.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:02 AM ET
How would we feel about:

Sam Reinhart
2017 1st rounder

to Minnesota for

Jonas Brodin or Matt Dumba
Nino Niederreiter


Too crazy?

- MCGUIZZY



No...
just depends how u wanna set up the team

I'm a big proponent of having 3 scoring lines
So for me, I want Sam as the 3C

But if u wanna have line 3 be a "checking" line,
Then that type of trade can put Nino on Jacks wing & strengthen the top6

I'd prefer to just move #8 for a defenseman,
But that's my preference
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
Two trade proposals I would consider:

Kane for one of Dallas's goalies and Honka. Maybe Buffalo adds a low pick or prospect. Then either see what you could get for Lehner or resign him and put whichever goalie you got from Dallas in Rochester. Each one only has a year left so not a big deal.


Kane, Nelson and Minny's 2nd for Trouba and Pommers. Not that I am for bringing Pommers back, but they want to shed his salary.

- adambuffalo



Only problem is that Minny has issues protecting all their forwards as well, so they probably need someone back they don't have to protect instead of Kane
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
No...
just depends how u wanna set up the team

I'm a big proponent of having 3 scoring lines
So for me, I want Sam as the 3C


But if u wanna have line 3 be a "checking" line,
Then that type of trade can put Nino on Jacks wing & strengthen the top6

I'd prefer to just move #8 for a defenseman,
But that's my preference

- jdfitz77

My rebuttal would be that it's way easier to find a competent 3C, than it is to find a top 2/3 D man.

Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
maybe both
- IndianaSabresFan


Maybe the deal is they will take Moulson if we give them Ennis.

Wow, that could be cool. Heck, I would even give you our 3rd rounder if you do this! (how generous of me, lol)
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
Wow that's a lot to give up.
- Matthews_Auston



Yea for sure. I think they are going to get a decent return for either Brodin or Dumba. Personally i like Nino better than Sam for the Sabres. I think this trade solves the defense issue and replaces a top 6 hole. This trade would make us a better team next season and beyond. So I would do it
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
http://buffalonews.com/20...y-time-make-hard-choices/

BUFFALO’S LINEUP

Subtracting Kane shows how much the Sabres need their young wingers to blossom. With the L.A. deal made, here’s our depth chart heading into the expansion draft:

*Center – Eichel, O’Reilly, Larsson, Rodrigues, Sean Malone.

That’s fine.

*Left wing – Brodzinski, Tyler Ennis, Marcus Foligno, William Carrier, Justin Bailey, Alex Nylander, C.J. Smith, Nicolas Deslauriers.


Kane or no Kane, that left wing lineup is depressing.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:06 AM ET
Reinhart drafted to play center but not good enough going into his third year. Setting the league on fire with 8 5v5 goals in his 2nd year. played center and was given the keys to drive the car when Eichel was out and he showed next to nothing when the Sabres were scoring 1.something goals a game. If he didn't wear the Sabres crest would there be this blind devotion?
- GilPerreault11



Want me to list all the players I'm sure u consider very good that Sam had more goals than?

There was A LOT
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
Two trade proposals I would consider:

Kane for one of Dallas's goalies and Honka. Maybe Buffalo adds a low pick or prospect. Then either see what you could get for Lehner or resign him and put whichever goalie you got from Dallas in Rochester. Each one only has a year left so not a big deal.


Kane, Nelson and Minny's 2nd for Trouba and Pommers. Not that I am for bringing Pommers back, but they want to shed his salary.

- adambuffalo


How are you getting Trouba and Pommers since they are on different teams?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
How would we feel about:

Sam Reinhart
2017 1st rounder

to Minnesota for

Jonas Brodin or Matt Dumba
Nino Niederreiter


Too crazy?

- MCGUIZZY


ya...cray cray.

Minni is bent over a barrel expansion wise. They can't protect these guys. You can get one of them without using Reino or a 1st.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
Want me to list all the players I'm sure u consider very good that Sam had more goals than?

There was A LOT

- jdfitz77


I absolutely hate this argument.

All it tells me is that Buffalo isn't the only one that needs to upgrade, but we're not talking about those teams, nor should we.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
My rebuttal would be that it's way easier to find a competent 3C, than it is to find a top 2/3 D man.
- sbroads24



But every team has a competent 3C
Us being even there doesn't give us any advantage

Trade #8 for a defenseman
Trade 2018 1st & take back a contract (Pominville?) for another defenseman

Boom
Defense fixed
Forward depth intact
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
How are you getting Trouba and Pommers since they are on different teams?
- Lilroot9


My bad. I meant to write dumba
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
I absolutely hate this argument.

All it tells me is that Buffalo isn't the only one that needs to upgrade, but we're not talking about those teams, nor should we.

- buffalofan19



That's not at all what it says
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:12 AM ET
But every team has a competent 3C
Us being even there doesn't give us any advantage

Trade #8 for a defenseman
Trade 2018 1st & take back a contract (Pominville?) for another defenseman

Boom
Defense fixed
Forward depth intact

- jdfitz77

If this gets you one, I am game. But what I imagine is a 1 for 1 scenario with a team like Carolina for Faulk or Hanifin. We might have to add a piece with Sam.

Me personally, I think Reinhart is decent, but totally replaceable.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
How is Tanner a blogger on this site
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:13 AM ET
ya...cray cray.

Minni is bent over a barrel expansion wise. They can't protect these guys. You can get one of them without using Reino or a 1st.

- storm88



Maybe..But I think there will be competition. And this trade is more that just acquiring Brodin/Dumba. Its swapping Reinhart for Nino. Who I think is a better fit for this team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
If this gets you one, I am game. But what I imagine is a 1 for 1 scenario with a team like Carolina for Faulk or Hanifin. We might have to add a piece with Sam.

Me personally, I think Reinhart is decent, but totally replaceable.

- sbroads24




That's only bc u feel Sam has reached his ceiling
To most of us, that's crazy bc he's still so young

Electrifying does not equate to good
Yeah, we know Sam doesn't skate like Max did
Lots of really good players don't
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 16 @ 11:18 AM ET
Congrats on Housely. He's going to be way better than that moron Tocchet
- Matthews_Auston

he knows when to hold them and when to fold them

knows when to walk away, knows when to run
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 16 @ 11:18 AM ET
My rebuttal would be that it's way easier to find a competent 3C, than it is to find a top 2/3 D man.
- sbroads24



It reminds me of the Pen's with Staal. That trade with the Cane's got them Brandon Sutter, Dumoulin and the #8 overall.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
That's only bc u feel Sam has reached his ceiling
To most of us, that's crazy bc he's still so young

Electrifying does not equate to good
Yeah, we know Sam doesn't skate like Max did
Lots of really good players don't

- jdfitz77

Even if he hasn't (which I think he has come close to, but not his full ceiling) he's never supplanting ROR or Eichel on the depth chart

and again, I'll trade a 3rd line center or 50 point winger for a 2/3 D man all day every day
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 11:20 AM ET
It reminds me of the Pen's with Staal. That trade with the Cane's got them Brandon Sutter, Dumoulin and the #8 overall.
- adambuffalo

Which ended up a great trade for them
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 16 @ 11:20 AM ET
ya...cray cray.

Minni is bent over a barrel expansion wise. They can't protect these guys. You can get one of them without using Reino or a 1st.

- storm88



Are they? If they pick the second protection option, rather than the formatted 5 forward, 3d, 1 goalie, they can protect all their good players.

There are very few forwards on that team that really, really good

Edit: That Parise contract is still ridiculous
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