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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...y-Briere-ECHL-Flyers.html
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 15 @ 3:39 PM ET
I'm sure there are some that perform poor analyses using the data available. If anything the hockey world under utilizes analytics, and there is so much more potential if the NHL/hockey world invested more into getting even better data.

I didn't watch all 59 games Flip played before joining the Flyers, but I watched a good portion and went to a few games while I was in Tampa. Those games aren't relevant to how he played for the Flyers, but they are relevant for predicting future success. And right now, that is for the Flyers. Those 59 games for Tampa will be more influential to predicting his future success than the 20 games he played for the Flyers.

Sure some of the data is flawed, and that will likely always be the case. But to dismiss analytics is completely foolish. I spend most of my time developing predictive models for companies using data that is just as flawed as the data in hockey analytics, if not more flawed. It doesn't stop these companies from using it as it saves them tons of money. Over a large sample size, the influence of these flaws can be reduced to nothing, which is one of the reasons it is so important to not put a lot of stock in a small one. Like the 20 games Flip played for the Flyers last year.

- JFlyers00


You're barking up the wrong decision tree
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 15 @ 3:42 PM ET
The narrative that certain players are dragging down their line mates because of certain stats representing the 5 man group on the ice is getting so tiring. Show me the videos of Filppula making these mistakes and lapses of judgement that these stats are supposed to cumulatively illustrate. Be sure to blur the faces out from anyone involved in the plays that the stats community thinks highly of. They're just getting dragged down by their line mates.
- Baxter27


I see the response, but all I hear is "I don't understand math and I'm going to lash out because of my insecurity of not knowing"
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
I see the response, but all I hear is "I don't understand math and I'm going to lash out because of my insecurity of not knowing"
- PhillySportsGuy


I heard that he understands hockey and how analytics are used improperly, especially by those who claim to be authorities on them. His point was spot on.
When it comes down to it, math doesn't have squat to do with it.
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