If Leafs are smart, hang on to JVR and sign Shattenkirk. Won't cost you anything other than money and same type of player and will command same money that Fowler will want.

If Leafs are smart, hang on to JVR and sign Shattenkirk. Won't cost you anything other than money and same type of player and will command same money that Fowler will want.
- millhouse

Leafs are shifting their focus back to Trouba.

Leafs are shifting their focus back to Trouba.
- gergeswillems

Myers (E3).

Myers (E3).
- Aussiepenguin

Leafs are interested in Myers but are focussed on Trouba. Lou is feeling traderish.

Leafs are interested in Myers but are focussed on Trouba. Lou is feeling traderish while keeping an eye on Carolina - doesn't want to be Faulked from behind.
- gergeswillems

I think it's a little morish like that.

The Pens will be 100% in on Duchene, I think the only reason they didn't make a move for him at the deadline was because of the health question marks on D as they would have to give up one of their top 4 to get him.

#1 Priority for the Pens this offseason is the #3 C spot. Top options:

1. Duchene - Maata, Simon & 2017 1st is probably the offer but I'd consider throwing in an extra high pick to get it done. Most likely won't happen due to a bidding war, someone is going to pay a lot for him. Colorado will likely want Sprong instead of the 1st and Schultz instead of Maata. Because of that I dont think it happens.

2. Bozak - Would be a nice option for them at 3C and not as expensive as Duchene. He would be an upgrade on Bonino who can do a lot of the same things he did. If TO is really looking to move him, probably overall the best bet.

3. Johnson - TB needs to move someone and are looking for a top 4 D. Maata + fits the bill.

4. Gagner/Bonino/Hanzal - All good options but I think they will all be looking for both term and dollars. Gagner and Bonino especially need to cash in. Pens probably won't go all in on one of them as a long term 3C.

5. Thornton - I don't think he'll leave SJ. If he did and wanted to join the Pens it would be a great option.

Bozak million retain for a 2nd plus prospect?
- MR.Hunter

In a heartbeat. Would have to be 2018 though, no 2017 2nd.

youre trading him for Barrie, its already done. Fatmarsh5 Confirmed
- DDM-Coga

Barrie -34


$5.5 million per

I think it's a little morish like that.
- Aussiepenguin

Yikes.

The Pens will be 100% in on Duchene, I think the only reason they didn't make a move for him at the deadline was because of the health question marks on D as they would have to give up one of their top 4 to get him.

#1 Priority for the Pens this offseason is the #3 C spot. Top options:

1. Duchene - Maata, Simon & 2017 1st is probably the offer but I'd consider throwing in an extra high pick to get it done. Most likely won't happen due to a bidding war, someone is going to pay a lot for him. Colorado will likely want Sprong instead of the 1st and Schultz instead of Maata. Because of that I dont think it happens.

2. Bozak - Would be a nice option for them at 3C and not as expensive as Duchene. He would be an upgrade on Bonino who can do a lot of the same things he did. If TO is really looking to move him, probably overall the best bet.

3. Johnson - TB needs to move someone and are looking for a top 4 D. Maata + fits the bill.

4. Gagner/Bonino/Hanzal - All good options but I think they will all be looking for both term and dollars. Gagner and Bonino especially need to cash in. Pens probably won't go all in on one of them as a long term 3C.

5. Thornton - I don't think he'll leave SJ. If he did and wanted to join the Pens it would be a great option.
- MacPatty

Maatta isn't gonna be enough for Johnson trade. Switch him out with Schultz and you have a good deal starting to take shape. Maatta is worth way more to the pens then to any other team, especially considering his injury history. Maatta played a 3rd D line role in the cup that doesnt seem like enough, and that is with Letang injured.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Pitts is undoubtedly looking for a productive, proven 3C and Bozak fits the bill perfectly. Given his history with Phil and the ability to play up and down the lineup increases his value to Pitts considering the combined injury history of Sid and Geno. Anyone care to put together a proposal or two?°
- marklaprise

Bozak for 2 2nds

6.5?
- MR.Hunter

Per friedman, 30 thoughts

Maatta isn't gonna be enough for Johnson trade. Switch him out with Schultz and you have a good deal starting to take shape. Maatta is worth way more to the pens then to any other team, especially considering his injury history. Maatta played a 3rd D line role in the cup that doesnt seem like enough, and that is with Letang injured.
- headyhedman77

Pens arent trading Schultzy wtf

Don't sell those players short on LA

Drouin is extremely overrated.
- classic321

Any teams with really putrid contracts will be forced to eat some Alpo soon.

Such as $10 million for 12 goal scorer Kopitar or nearly $6 mil for stinker Dustin Brown or $5 million for boat anchor Gaborik or $7 million each for 59 year old Sedins. These teams will not be the Alpha dogs in any trades - rather meekly nod in agreement to what they are offered. Tampa is a well run organization, that will get a good return for Drouin if he is moved.

Maatta isn't gonna be enough for Johnson trade. Switch him out with Schultz and you have a good deal starting to take shape. Maatta is worth way more to the pens then to any other team, especially considering his injury history. Maatta played a 3rd D line role in the cup that doesnt seem like enough, and that is with Letang injured.
- headyhedman77

I know the Pens would definitely need to add to it. The Pens didn't have top pairings during the playoffs. They spread everyone out so they would have 3 lines that played evenly, not to mention Maata was injured heading into the playoffs and wasnt fully healthy.

The only reason I think Maata might be an option is because Stevie Y might see him as a Lidstrom light in the long term. He has stick skills and thinks the game at a high level. Just needs to get his legs back.

Pens arent trading Schultzy wtf
- PhillyCheese

I agree, and you shouldnt. But you cant tell me that Maatta is enough for a .73 ppg Center who is still RFA, when not long ago most of the pens fans would say they werent fond of maatta what so ever.

I know the Pens would definitely need to add to it. The Pens didn't have top pairings during the playoffs. They spread everyone out so they would have 3 lines that played evenly, not to mention Maata was injured heading into the playoffs and wasnt fully healthy.

The only reason I think Maata might be an option is because Stevie Y might see him as a Lidstrom light in the long term. He has stick skills and thinks the game at a high level. Just needs to get his legs back.
- MacPatty

What do you think the Add would be?

Also interested to know what you think about the Pens UFA/RFA situation this season. (assuming the MAF is off the cap) You have 19 mill in cap space which is a lot but you also have a lot of raises that are needed to be given out, and im interested to see how you would go about it?

I agree, and you shouldnt. But you cant tell me that Maatta is enough for a .73 ppg Center who is still RFA, when not long ago most of the pens fans would say they werent fond of maatta what so ever.
- headyhedman77

Like i said earlier Pens are not in need for a Duchene/Johnson C.. that would be a bit luxury.. Pens need someone defensively responsible with good faceoffs who can chip in offensively sometimes.. like Bones for way cheaper than Duch/Tyler

I agree, and you shouldnt. But you cant tell me that Maatta is enough for a .73 ppg Center who is still RFA, when not long ago most of the pens fans would say they werent fond of maatta what so ever.
- headyhedman77

Yes I have to agree with you about the Maatta calls but that's just in the heat of battle - until the next battle!

Not sure we can afford to lose any of our contracted D especially if it's a F coming back.

If anyone was going I suspect Pouliot may be shown as a 'project' worth the gamble?

Now I have no idea if there are any mug punters out there, but you never know!!

I agree, and you shouldnt. But you cant tell me that Maatta is enough for a .73 ppg Center who is still RFA, when not long ago most of the pens fans would say they werent fond of maatta what so ever.
- headyhedman77

Matta is not nearly enough for Johnson, but I can't see Yzerman moving Johnson, maybe Drouin, but the price will be steep and several teams will pay it. They have enough room to sign all three RFA's. If they can stay injury free this year, they are a playoff team and will need Johnson.

What do you think the Add would be?

Also interested to know what you think about the Pens UFA/RFA situation this season. (assuming the MAF is off the cap) You have 19 mill in cap space which is a lot but you also have a lot of raises that are needed to be given out, and im interested to see how you would go about it?
- headyhedman77

Not sure to be honest. He is very talented, but has played fewer and fewer games each year because of injuries. His contract demands will have a massive impact on his value.

For the Pens situation.
Schultz 5 years @ $4.5M
Dumolin 4 years @ $3.75M
Sheary 2 years @ $2M

The rest will revolve around what happens with their 3C opening.
Id love to have Daley & Kunitz back if they are affordable contracts.
They will probably sign an experienced goalie to a 1 year deal to back up Murray with Jarry the #1 in WBS.

Matta is not nearly enough for Johnson, but I can't see Yzerman moving Johnson, maybe Drouin, but the price will be steep and several teams will pay it. They have enough room to sign all three RFA's. If they can stay injury free this year, they are a playoff team and will need Johnson.
- winsix

I think Johnson is more of a luxary considering the center depth of our organization (Regarding prospects). However I think it will be unlikely to see Johnson moved because i think he will take a home town discount that will help retain our ability to sign all of our RFAs. Im interested to see what contract SY can get Johnson/Palat to agree too

Not sure to be honest. He is very talented, but has played fewer and fewer games each year because of injuries. His contract demands will have a massive impact on his value.

For the Pens situation.
Schultz 5 years @ $4.5M
Dumolin 4 years @ $3.75M
Sheary 2 years @ $2M

The rest will revolve around what happens with their 3C opening.
Id love to have Daley & Kunitz back if they are affordable contracts.
They will probably sign an experienced goalie to a 1 year deal to back up Murray with Jarry the #1 in WBS.
- MacPatty

I think you are low balling sheary a little bit but all in all those look like fair contracts. I know sheary's success is directly related to playing with Crosby but it seems unlikely that he only gets 2 mill per bc he is eligible for arbitration. Could be wrong on this, but it seems like he progressed like crazy this year

Bozak for 2 2nds
- Tumbleweed

Maybe with more term, but not for a one year rental. 2nd+ sounds right if they can agree on the plus.