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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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Jun 12 @ 2:01 PM ET
Been away for awhile, was pretty busy with other things and didn't have much to contribute to the board during the cup finals but now that, that's over with...

What's the general pulse on this board on who they think the coach is going to be?

I'm sure most if not everyone wants Housley but do most people like myself expect it to be Tocchet?

- bluengold12

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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
Detroit did it too
- jdfitz77


Detroit is original six.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
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Navy it is...

- Stripes77


Every fan asked for Royal blue lol and they don't listen
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:19 PM ET
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Friedman says he thinks CBJ & VGK have a deal where David Clarkson lands in Vegas, along with a 1st + prospect (960).
Sabresfan-365
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Jun 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
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Friedman says he thinks CBJ & VGK have a deal where David Clarkson lands in Vegas, along with a 1st + prospect (960).

- chilliard77



good for vegas
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 12 @ 2:21 PM ET

- adambuffalo


That looks an awful lot like the present
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:21 PM ET
good for vegas
- Sabresfan-365

My thoughts were, that's a baaaddd contract. So I wonder if we could get them to take Bogo for a 2nd

edit: it also saves them from losing Murray/Savard/Johnson too, so I think that's a good deal for CBJ to be honest
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
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Jun 12 @ 2:28 PM ET
My thoughts were, that's a baaaddd contract. So I wonder if we could get them to take Bogo for a 2nd

edit: it also saves them from losing Murray/Savard/Johnson too, so I think that's a good deal for CBJ to be honest

- chilliard77



vegas has literally all the cap space so to get an extra 1st out of that will help them with their build.

Effectively ends any shot at them taking a guy like bogo though cause they dont need to fill their team with those contracts.

I imagine they may take one more bad one from a playoff team and maybe get their first as well.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
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Jun 12 @ 2:31 PM ET
My thoughts were, that's a baaaddd contract. So I wonder if we could get them to take Bogo for a 2nd

edit: it also saves them from losing Murray/Savard/Johnson too, so I think that's a good deal for CBJ to be honest

- chilliard77



That's too much to give up imo
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
That's too much to give up imo
- jcragcrumple



No way! I'd easily give up a 2nd round pick to get rid of BADgosian
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
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Friedman says he thinks CBJ & VGK have a deal where David Clarkson lands in Vegas, along with a 1st + prospect (960).

- chilliard77


Pick number 24 and it would depend on the prospect. As others are saying, Clarkson $5.25 cap hit for 3 years (still owed a total of $15m in actual salary) for a 1st round pick? And that guy wont even play for them at all.

That is a bad deal for Vegas, they should want to steal another of their players. The prospect better be pretty good.

So as others are saying, our 2nd and Moulson might be an over payment. How about our 2nd, Moulson and Bogosian?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 2:34 PM ET
I would offer Vegas Moulson/Bogo + Carrier + 3rd or 4th for future considerations

Edit to clarify: one or the other
jcragcrumple
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Jun 12 @ 2:35 PM ET
No way! I'd easily give up a 2nd round pick to get rid of BADgosian
- bluengold12



We need to keep those picks and hit on them more often than not if we're gonna build something. I don't think he's bad enough to pay that kind of price to get rid of him.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
Pick number 24 and it would depend on the prospect. As others are saying, Clarkson $5.25 cap hit for 3 years (still owed a total of $15m in actual salary) for a 1st round pick? And that guy wont even play for them at all.

That is a bad deal for Vegas, they should want to steal another of their players. The prospect better be pretty good.

So as others are saying, our 2nd and Moulson might be an over payment. How about our 2nd, Moulson and Bogosian?

- Lilroot9

They got a 1st and a prospect for a player they will be able to put on LTIR for the next 3 years. The only time he will count against the cap is in the off-season. I don't see how this is a bad move for Vegas.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
We need to keep those picks and hit on them more often than not if we're gonna build something. I don't think he's bad enough to pay that kind of price to get rid of him.
- jcragcrumple


I think he's bad enough. He's 5.1 million wasted cap space for three more years and a waste of roster space. He's nothing more than a 5th defenceman on a playoff team and at his cap space that's too much for that role. He's got the worst hockey sense I've seen from a Sabre in the last couple of years. We can get picks by trading guys like Girgensons or Foligno but we need to dump BADgosian and hopefully buy out Moulson
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:40 PM ET
That's too much to give up imo
- jcragcrumple



its probably what it would cost but i agree we need to keep our picks
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 2:40 PM ET
They got a 1st and a prospect for a player they will be able to put on LTIR for the next 3 years. The only time he will count against the cap is in the off-season. I don't see how this is a bad move for Vegas.
- Mentalorgasm5


They have to pay the guy $15 million also. For a team that just spent tons of money that is a huge deal to me.
jcragcrumple
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Jun 12 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think he's bad enough. He's 5.1 million wasted cap space for three more years and a waste of roster space. He's nothing more than a 5th defenceman on a playoff team and at his cap space that's too much for that role. He's got the worst hockey sense I've seen from a Sabre in the last couple of years. We can get picks by trading guys like Girgensons or Foligno but we need to dump BADgosian and hopefully buy out Moulson
- bluengold12



I'm with you on moulson.

Like you said though, Bogo is still an NHL player. I don't believe Moulson would get another NHL job if his contract was up
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
They have to pay the guy $15 million also. For a team that just spent tons of money that is a huge deal to me.
- Lilroot9



didnt realize it was your money


In all seriousness though this is probably the best way for them to build a solid prospect pool
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
They have to pay the guy $15 million also. For a team that just spent tons of money that is a huge deal to me.
- Lilroot9

I think if you offered an extra first and a prospect to Terry every 3 years for 15 million he would take that offer.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
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Jun 12 @ 2:49 PM ET
I think if you offered an extra first and a prospect to Terry every 3 years for 15 million he would take that offer.
- Mentalorgasm5


Did not realize Terry was their owner too. Not all teams have that kind of money to do that.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:49 PM ET
didnt realize it was your money


In all seriousness though this is probably the best way for them to build a solid prospect pool

- Sabresfan-365

I agree, I'm jealous. I think the sabres could have afforded to do this with Clarkson going on LTIR. In the off-season they area plowed to go 5% over the cap(I believe).
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
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Jun 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
didnt realize it was your money


In all seriousness though this is probably the best way for them to build a solid prospect pool

- Sabresfan-365


You're right, its not my money, but that is not a "no brainer" for every owner in the league.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:51 PM ET
Did not realize Terry was their owner too. Not all teams have that kind of money to do that.
- Lilroot9

My point is most teams/owners would do this of they could, money is not relevant when it isn't hitting the cap.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:52 PM ET
You're right, its not my money, but that is not a "no brainer" for every owner in the league.
- Lilroot9



but it is for vegas. They aren't a cap strapped team. even post expansion draft and probably for the next 2 years minimum they will be a floor team and probably spend among the fewest of the nhl teams. They basically spent a bit up front to speed up youth development.

The early years are critical for an expansion team so anything they can do to add young talent is worth doing.
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