they won because they have the best player in the game, one of the best players in the game (and vastly underrated) and got great, timely goaltending...luck had very little to do with it
- Michael Pachla

They won a game where they went 37 minutes without a shot on goal.
They won another game where the refs blew a whistle early.
They won a series where they were out played in 6 of the 7 games against WSH

They were very fortunate to win the cup this year.

Still, great team with great players.

the pens tanking has been either forgotten, or is being re-written...just look at some of the responses here
- Michael Pachla

when you win 3 out of your last 21 games

your tanking

correct, but pens had the worst record in the league 2003-04 and second-worst the year prior...they knew sid was coming and you can bet your bottom dollar that they would have finished last in 2004-05 if there was a season
- Michael Pachla

Maybe? But they didn't so I don't buy the argument that they tanked for Sid. Would they have that season? Probably, but they never had that opportunity thanks to the lockout.

Maybe? But they didn't so I don't buy the argument that they tanked for Sid. Would they have that season? Probably, but they never had that opportunity thanks to the lockout.
- j.boyd919

I lost a lot of respect when the crosby lottery was done behind closed doors, frankly all of them at the time

crosby saved the franchise

The Pens are also one of only three non-Original Six teams to win back-to-back Cups joining the 1974-75 Flyers and the Edmonton Oilers of the 80's.

Islanders - or am I misunderstanding that sentence?

https://twitter.com/Buffa...status/874285479763378176


Navy it is...

I lost a lot of respect when the crosby lottery was done behind closed doors, frankly all of them at the time

crosby saved the franchise
- homiedclown

Oh he no doubt saved the franchise. I'll never argue that.

https://twitter.com/BuffaloSabres/status/874285479763378176


Navy it is...
- Stripes77

This team can't even get their colors right.

https://twitter.com/BuffaloSabres/status/874285479763378176


Navy it is...
- Stripes77

Obviously everyone wants royal blue but I trust adidas

Obviously everyone wants royal blue but I trust adidas
- Sabresfan-365

But do you trust the NHL to do the right thing by the fans?

But do you trust the NHL to do the right thing by the fans?
- Stripes77

no

no
- jochfr

Exactly my point.

There is still hope for the winter classic at least

Exactly my point.

There is still hope for the winter classic at least
- Stripes77

Blue and gold goathead?

This team can't even get their colors right.
- TerryPegula

Nope. No they cannot.

Blue and gold goathead?
- jcragcrumple

The Goathead in blue and gold melts my eyes.

Maclin deciding between Baltimore and Buffalo, most likely today

http://www.nfl.com/news/s...d-to-make-decision-monday

But do you trust the NHL to do the right thing by the fans?
- Stripes77

i mean...they want to make money so i have some kinda hope

Exactly my point.

There is still hope for the winter classic at least
- Stripes77

Winter Classic logo LEAKED (e5):

The Goathead in blue and gold melts my eyes.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Maclin deciding between Baltimore and Buffalo, most likely today

http://www.nfl.com/news/s...d-to-make-decision-monday
- turbo044

Bills fans need not to hang their heads on if he signs here. He's good, but not great. But suddenly he's become the tunnel vision focus of fans. The Bills are going nowhere this year, and that's fine. Yeah it's been 17 years, but it was also 17 years of horrible decision making. Let's think winning the offseason with one injury ridden receiver fixes that.

Winter Classic logo LEAKED (e5):


- TerryPegula

Wrong:





B--S(5)

I forgot who I don't like on here...

Bills fans need not to hang their heads on if he signs here. He's good, but not great. But suddenly he's become the tunnel vision focus of fans. The Bills are going nowhere this year, and that's fine. Yeah it's been 17 years, but it was also 17 years of horrible decision making. Let's think winning the offseason with one injury ridden receiver fixes that.
- Buffalo--Sabres

While I agree to a certain extent, the WR corp was probably the biggest question mark for the Bills going into the draft.

Watkins and his health
Robert Woods gone
Fast man who only catches deep balls gone (can't remember his name, I'm hungover)
and then a bunch of no names

IF (big if) Watkins is healthy
Maclin signs here would probably be one of if not the best #2 wideouts in the league
Jones the rookie would have time to be the #3 and ease into it.

Joined: 05.21.2007

Today @ 12:12 PM ET
For Fitz, this literally showed up on my FB today

http://deadspin.com/who-w...-every-year-du-1770857828

Has nothing to do with our argument but it's been known that he was over rated during his career

Anyone (Not you) ranking him over Lebron is nuts
- sbroads24




First... who the f#ck is tom scoccia?

Know what? I'll just end there