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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
The last decent player to come out of the AJHL and play any significant amount of time at the NHL is.....wait for it......Joe Colbourne.....or Matt Frattin, whichever one underwhelms the most. Cale Makar....no thanks, Mittlestadt no thanks. Both are high risk of bust.

Glass or Vilardi = safe, impactful, near NHL ready

- Brooks_Light

Drafted 3rd round to the ST. Louis Blues out of the AJHL from the Fort Mcmurray oil barons in the 2012 NHL entry draft. COLTON PARAYKO. Then 3 years of college.

Sorry bud.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
I have been expressing my dislike for these 2 for months now. With these 2 players, expect more of the same super soft as fack hockey. No thanks. 16 years of this poop is enough for me.
Have we ever had a number 1 centre that played with an edge? Sedin, Gradin, Sundstrom.

History has shown that the good ones play with an edge Sakic Yzerman Trottier Forsberg Crosby Malkin Toews Getzlaf Bergeron Lemieux Messier and even Gretzky all played with a little edge. I dont believe Mittlestadt does at all. He will be another Marchand punching bag.

- Reubenkincade

Makar is definitely not soft. very far from it. This teams needs skill more than anything else. Grit can be addressed with later picks and UFA signings.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jun 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
For me Makar playing in the league he did is what turns me away from him. Not much talent in the AJHL
- phyllee


It wasn't just the AJHL, he produced against all the best teams at that level in the Royal Bank Cup as well as at the World U17 Challenge. This kid is good!
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jun 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
Makar is definitely not soft. very far from it. This teams needs skill more than anything else. Grit can be addressed with later picks and UFA signings.
- CanuckDon


The thing about grit is you either have it or you don't, size doesn't always translate into grit.....look at Shery and Rust on Pitt.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:11 PM ET
The thing about grit is you either have it or you don't, size doesn't always translate into grit.....look at Shery and Rust on Pitt.
- Kaynine

for sure....look at Grenier, 6'5, 215 and he is softer than the Sedin's
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
I think Mittelstadt is a better skater than Glass and he's got some serious skill, just needs further development. As for Makar, I don't really know enough about him.

If they manage to get a second first round pick, I hope they take two centers with high-end skill sets

- LeftCoaster


I prefer they build with C in first picks over taking the D that are available in this draft. There will be good C available in second round as well with 33 & 55.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
It wasn't just the AJHL, he produced against all the best teams at that level in the Royal Bank Cup as well as at the World U17 Challenge. This kid is good!
- Kaynine



Yes he is and dynamic new age D too. But still the C that are there when Canucks pick seem better if you look at BPA.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't care if Benning is fired. I won't lose any sleep you guys will hate the next guy as well
- CanuckDon

probably not as much though
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
Idiots!
- LeftCoaster

Yes!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:28 PM ET
Glass is becoming my boy...he's ahead of Vilardi/Casey for me now. The more I watch, the more I'm convinced that he's the best pick out of those 3. He's not the flashiest player or most explosive, but he gets poop done and his game translates well into the pros IMHO.

Plus he's got room to improve physically just like pillsbury doughboy Mittelstadt. Glass is lanky and judging from his pics at the combine, he's not physically developed yet and some serious gm time with NHL trainers would do him good. He might still grow a bit too, comes from a tall family.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
Glass is becoming my boy...he's ahead of Vilardi/Casey for me now. The more I watch, the more I'm convinced that he's the best pick out of those 3. He's not the flashiest player or most explosive, but he gets poop done and his game translates well into the pros IMHO.

Plus he's got room to improve physically just like pillsbury doughboy Mittelstadt. Glass is lanky and judging from his pics at the combine, he's not physically developed yet and some serious gm time with NHL trainers would do him good. He might still grow a bit too, comes from a tall family.

- Nucker101

I think Glass, Vilardi and Makar are all fine picks. Wouldn't be upset with Heiskanen, Mittle or Petersson as well. Strange draft.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:32 PM ET
Glass is becoming my boy...he's ahead of Vilardi/Casey for me now. The more I watch, the more I'm convinced that he's the best pick out of those 3. He's not the flashiest player or most explosive, but he gets poop done and his game translates well into the pros IMHO.

Plus he's got room to improve physically just like pillsbury doughboy Mittelstadt. Glass is lanky and judging from his pics at the combine, he's not physically developed yet and some serious gm time with NHL trainers would do him good. He might still grow a bit too, comes from a tall family.

- Nucker101


I could see him getting taller putting on the weight and making the canucks next year. Going to be a solid player, really hoping thats who we get.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
I think Glass, Vilardi and Makar are all fine picks. Wouldn't be upset with Heiskanen, Mittle or Petersson as well. Strange draft.
- CanuckDon


My rankings are set:

1) Nico
2) Nolan
3) Glass
4) Vilardi
5) Heiskanen
6) Suzuki
7) Mittelstadt
8) Makar
9) Liljegren
10) Pettersson
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
My rankings are set:

1) Nico
2) Nolan
3) Glass
4) Vilardi
5) Heiskanen
6) Suzuki
7) Mittelstadt
8) Makar
9) Liljegren
10) Pettersson

- Nucker101


My list is pretty similar:

1) Nico
2) Nolan
3) Glass
4) Heiskanen
5) Makar
6) Vilardi
7) Mittelstadt
8) Pettersson
9) Tolvanen
10) Suzuki
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:39 PM ET
My list is pretty similar:

1) Nico
2) Nolan
3) Glass
4) Heiskanen
5) Makar
6) Vilardi
7) Mittelstadt
8) Pettersson
9) Tolvanen
10) Suzuki

- CanuckDon

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:42 PM ET
My list is pretty similar:

1) Nico
2) Nolan
3) Glass
4) Heiskanen
5) Makar
6) Vilardi
7) Mittelstadt
8) Pettersson
9) Tolvanen
10) Suzuki

- CanuckDon



No Owen Tippet? This kid is always forgotten :/
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:47 PM ET

- Nucker101

If only we could somehow get Glass + Makar/ Heiskanen. Would be huge
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:48 PM ET
No Owen Tippet? This kid is always forgotten :/
- Crazybagoham

To be honest, haven't spent any time watching the kid because he isn't on the Canucks radar. Definitley an intriguing skill set though.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:48 PM ET
If only we could somehow get Glass + Makar/ Heiskanen. Would be huge
- CanuckDon

Trading Tanev would help.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
No Owen Tippet? This kid is always forgotten :/
- Crazybagoham

Meh, not as high on him as some are. I have him 14th
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
I reserve the right to cheer for another team until Benning and Linden are fired if this summer doesn't go well

I'll be practicing with a new team and avatar shortly

- LeftCoaster

Maybe you could head to the Philly thread for a year??
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:51 PM ET
Trading Tanev would help.
- Marwood

for sure, one of Tanev or Edler should be traded. As much as I'd love for Tanev to be traded pre-draft, the trade can't be rushed. we need a big return.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:51 PM ET
Trading Tanev would help.
- Marwood

for the right deal, yes


I'm glad that Benning actually seems unsure about trading him, it'll keep the price high. He usually gets bent over value-wise when he's the one initiating the trade talks and trying to make things happen.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:55 PM ET
for sure, one of Tanev or Edler should be traded. As much as I'd love for Tanev to be traded pre-draft, the trade can't be rushed. we need a big return.
- CanuckDon

Agreed. I wonder if Benning has even approached Edler this off-season. It would be a mistake to not at least be blunt/honest and tell him that the team is rebuilding and that he won't be around for the turn around. Maybe he'd provide a shortlist of teams that he'd go to and Benning could get a decent return.

I see Tanev as a much better partner for young dmen than Edler. He's such a calming presence and easy to play with. I can't think of a dman who hasn't looked better playing with him, than without.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
for the right deal, yes


I'm glad that Benning actually seems unsure about trading him, it'll keep the price high. He usually gets bent over value-wise when he's the one initiating the trade talks and trying to make things happen.

- Nucker101

Good point.
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