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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 4:59 PM ET
I would love to hear from some of the more knowledgeable guys what player you would be excited about if the flyers got them for the first 3-4 rounds.
- johm12



Emil Bemstrom is one for me
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:01 PM ET
I would love to hear from some of the more knowledgeable guys what player you would be excited about if the flyers got them for the first 3-4 rounds.
- johm12



I'll also toss out Santeri Virtanen
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
Alexsi Heponiemi
Mononoke
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Jun 11 @ 5:17 PM ET
Alexsi Heponiemi
- Mordecai

If he's not a pure 2nd rounder with great steal potential, someone (frank)ed up
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
If he's not a pure 2nd rounder with great steal potential, someone (frank)ed up
- Mononoke


The question wasn't who would you liked in the 2nd round but rather 3/4 range
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
The question wasn't who would you liked in the 2nd round but rather 3/4 range
- ob18

Just ban me now I deserve it
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:26 PM ET
If he's not a pure 2nd rounder with great steal potential, someone (frank)ed up
- Mononoke

I'd consider trading up to 31-36 range just to snag him if Yams is already gone.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
Guys like Bemstrom and Virtanen are hard to read on draft day. Bemstrom is a bit small and both are homegrown guys without a ton of hype (both seem quality picks imo, though I only personally saw them sparingly in u18s and wasn't really focused on them). They're maybe the types that fall to value in a later round or some team is in love with one and reaches in the 3rd/4th or something.

Some names I'll add, some more 3rd types some more 4ths: Robin Salo, Dmitri Samorukov, Jonas Rondbjerg, Jake Leschyshyn, Alexandre Texier, Noah Cates, Johnny Kovacevic, MacAuley Carson, Fabian Zetterlund, Ostap Safin, Mario Ferraro, Matthew Kellenberger, etc., etc.

Deep goalie draft too if you miss out on one of the consensus top 4 (no need to use a 2nd on a goalie again imo): Ian Scott, Stuart Skinner, Cayden Primeau, Dylan Ferguson could make a solid pick with one of the 3 4ths.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:31 PM ET
Just ban me now I deserve it
- Mordecai


getting close
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 11 @ 5:31 PM ET
Random thought: I don't know why but I just have this feeling that Schenn could get moved during this draft. What Hexy would be looking for in return I have no clue. But if there's value to be had I'd certainly have to consider it.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
getting close
- ob18


I'm worth $36 a year to EK

He needs me to keep the lights on
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:36 PM ET
I'd consider trading up to 31-36 range just to snag him if Yams is already gone.
- Mordecai


I think there's a good enough chance he is there at 44 where I wouldn't trade up. Size will hurt. Doesn't much seem like a Hextall pick either tbh. There's only a few guys I might consider parting with a 3rd for to get to ~35 that we might have to do so to nab. I really don't know if Yamamoto slips to there. Again, size hurts. Better chance to go in the 1st but things happen where he might be there in the high 2nd.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
I think there's a good enough chance he is there at 44 where I wouldn't trade up. Size will hurt. Doesn't much seem like a Hextall pick either tbh. There's only a few guys I might consider parting with a 3rd for to get to ~35 that we might have to do so to nab. I really don't know if Yamamoto slips to there. Again, size hurts. Better chance to go in the 1st but things happen where he might be there in the high 2nd.
- Mononoke

I'm 90% convinced that Yams gets snagged in the 1st. He does so many things right and is more physically developed than a lot of other guys despite his small stature.

I'll admit that I don't know much regarding later round picks in this draft as opposed to last year and the year before. That's what I rely on you for though.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 11 @ 5:44 PM ET
Guys like Bemstrom and Virtanen are hard to read on draft day. Bemstrom is a bit small and both are homegrown guys without a ton of hype (both seem quality picks imo, though I only personally saw them sparingly in u18s and wasn't really focused on them). They're maybe the types that fall to value in a later round or some team is in love with one and reaches in the 3rd/4th or something.

Some names I'll add, some more 3rd types some more 4ths: Robin Salo, Dmitri Samorukov, Jonas Rondbjerg, Jake Leschyshyn, Alexandre Texier, Noah Cates, Johnny Kovacevic, MacAuley Carson, Fabian Zetterlund, Ostap Safin, Mario Ferraro, Matthew Kellenberger, etc., etc.

Deep goalie draft too if you miss out on one of the consensus top 4 (no need to use a 2nd on a goalie again imo): Ian Scott, Stuart Skinner, Cayden Primeau, Dylan Ferguson could make a solid pick with one of the 3 4ths.

- Mononoke


I was going to say I haven't heard a ton about the goalies in this draft. I know we're a bit overstocked on goalie prospects at the moment but I wonder if Hexy takes one or two just due to the sheer number of picks that we have. I personally wouldn't mind grabbing one with one of the 4ths. But yeah, I agree. I wouldn't be grabbing a goalie at 44.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
I was going to say I haven't heard a ton about the goalies in this draft. I know we're a bit overstocked on goalie prospects at the moment but I wonder if Hexy takes one or two just due to the sheer number of picks that we have. I personally wouldn't mind grabbing one with one of the 4ths. But yeah, I agree. I wouldn't be grabbing a goalie at 44.
- hereticpride

I'd love to get Skinner. I think he's got a lot of potential.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:50 PM ET
I'd love to get Skinner. I think he's got a lot of potential.
- Mordecai


I'd say Ian Scott or Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:52 PM ET
I'm 90% convinced that Yams gets snagged in the 1st. He does so many things right and is more physically developed than a lot of other guys despite his small stature.

I'll admit that I don't know much regarding later round picks in this draft as opposed to last year and the year before. That's what I rely on you for though.

- Mordecai


5'7.5.....148 lbs. We'll see. No reason in a couple years he can't get up to at least Johnny Gaudreau territory size-wise, but tape measure scouting could hit him hard. If he does go, it's going to be late to some stacked team like Pittsburgh or Chicago or Columbus who is ok with taking players like that. And they'll get a potential star player they can cheaply add like they always do and keep chugging along. (frank) 'em.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 11 @ 5:55 PM ET
5'7.5.....148 lbs. We'll see. No reason in a couple years he can't get up to at least Johnny Gaudreau territory size-wise, but tape measure scouting could hit him hard. If he does go, it's going to be late to some stacked team like Pittsburgh or Chicago or Columbus who is ok with taking players like that. And they'll get a potential star player they can cheaply add like they always do and keep chugging along. (frank) 'em.
- Mononoke

Sounds like this year's DeBrincat. (frank)ing Hawks man.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
I'd say Ian Scott or Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
- ob18


Skeptical he makes it to 75 or 80, let alone 106. Probably a 2nd rounder, along with the other 3 I alluded to: Oettinger (maybe 1st), Petruzzelli, DiPietro. With how deep this draft is, I'd prefer to try to wait until the 4ths for a goalie, if we select one, as Hextall is fond of doing. But they're very good at it, so if they need to use a 3rd, I won't gripe too much.


Sounds like this year's DeBrincat. (frank)ing Hawks man.
- hereticpride


He's better than DeBrincat by a good margin IMO. More versatile offensively and defensively, better skater, better international track record, a real line driver and not support player, smarter. Just more pro. And that's a weird word to describe any shrimp.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
5'7.5.....148 lbs. We'll see. No reason in a couple years he can't get up to at least Johnny Gaudreau territory size-wise, but tape measure scouting could hit him hard. If he does go, it's going to be late to some stacked team like Pittsburgh or Chicago or Columbus who is ok with taking players like that. And they'll get a potential star player they can cheaply add like they always do and keep chugging along. (frank) 'em.
- Mononoke

I bet you it's the Pens.

Just don't let it be the Rangers
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 11 @ 6:10 PM ET
Man this site really doesn't want me on here today. I've been here 5 minutes and have been redirected over a dozen times. ENjoy guys, I'm out
- mayorofangrytown

Glad it's happening to others. I thought it was just me
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 11 @ 6:16 PM ET
Just don't let it be the Rangers
- Mordecai


Them too. He did say his favorite player who he models himself after is Placemats Zucchinijello, also known by his alias Mats Zuccarello.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jun 11 @ 6:53 PM ET
5'7.5.....148 lbs. We'll see. No reason in a couple years he can't get up to at least Johnny Gaudreau territory size-wise, but tape measure scouting could hit him hard. If he does go, it's going to be late to some stacked team like Pittsburgh or Chicago or Columbus who is ok with taking players like that. And they'll get a potential star player they can cheaply add like they always do and keep chugging along. (frank) 'em.
- Mononoke


He is a bit closer to being a jockey instead of an NHLer, just kidding.

johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 11 @ 7:10 PM ET
Unfortunately and fortunately the rehearsal for my wedding starts at the same time as the draft with the dinner afterwards. Its going to be torture to not be able to watch them select the #2 pick. Will probably miss most the draft.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 7:21 PM ET
Unfortunately and fortunately the rehearsal for my wedding starts at the same time as the draft with the dinner afterwards. Its going to be torture to not be able to watch them select the #2 pick. Will probably miss most the draft.
- johm12


Poor planning or it was done on purpose
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