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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:14 PM ET
still doesnt work, your linking from an edit page, you have to publish it first or manually copy and paste the moves made and the lineup
- Sabresfan-365


Sorry
Should be good now
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:21 PM ET
Sorry
Should be good now

- jdfitz77



still can't get to it lol
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 7:23 PM ET
robin can go to arbitration? ugh that's not good
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 10 @ 7:23 PM ET
What up Buzz peeps! Been reading the Buzz for has to be around 8 years now and this is my first post. Bout time! Had to put my input in. Think murrey set us back a bit but think everyone agrees about that. Thought he morgaged the future. Think he messed up drafting reinhart instead of Draisaitl. Not saying that now because draisaitl had a great year but thought that at the draft. Murray was saying he wanted a big team and Draisaitl was that body. Think the knock on him during the draft was he took shifts off or something. But whatever thats the past. Reinharts not bad and could be a good player. But do you guys see him as a player that will show up in the playoffs?? Watching the playoffs right now i just cant see reinhart not getting destroyed. Or winning a battle. If he cant win a battle or go in the corner without being scared of getting hit in the regular season hows he gonna do it in the playoffs when everyones going 110%. Seen 3 seasons of him and dont think he will change. Never know. Think if we can trade him do it. Get a yound top 4 D for him. Add if need be. As for kane yea i like his play. But for a soon to be 6M dollar winger he is just injured to much. Would love him in the playoffs but after 82 games who knows if hes still standing. Trade him for a D and or a player, pick. If we can sign him for 2-3 years at 6M i wouldent be apposed. I agree with people no need to overpay for wingers. If you got a elite one sure give him his money. But seems like every free agency theres 3-4 guys around 3.5-4 mil on short deals that can give you 20-25 goals and 40-50 points. Hmmm sound like kane and reinhart. Time to make this team faster and playoff caliber. Fix the D, get guys that compete and draft good and give some of these kids a shot. I know its not gonna happen this off season but also dont think we are very far off. Think botterill is the guy. Hope i didnt piss to many people off haha
- ZiggyBuff


Welcome Zig. You didn't piss me off but paragraphs make long posts easier to read.
I think it's hard to know what any player will do in the playoffs until they actually play in one. I don't think anyone saw Jake Guentzel's success coming like it did.

I'm still hopeful on Samson although I realize that club is a shrinking one. I'm also on record for supporting keeping Kane, also a somewhat unpopular position.

I agree with your appeal to "fix the D...draft good and give kids a shot". You also brought something up that I'd like to see; people stating before the draft who they would like to take vs those they'd like to avoid. Captain Hindsight is a great GM, but it's much harder to do beforehand.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:25 PM ET
still can't get to it lol
- Sabresfan-365



https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/team/350482
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Jun 10 @ 7:39 PM ET
2 things. Paragraphs. That's really hard to read. And proofread.

I'm absolutely not trading Kane for a pick. Not going to happen. No one is giving us a pick that's anywhere near his value, and multiple picks is even worse. I would do a 1 for 1 maybe add a bit on our side. A 2nd or 3rd. For a good, young top 4 guy.

I'm not trading Reinhart after 2 seasons unless it's for an obscene overpayment.

- Wetbandit1


Paragraphs I get. Will do. But proof read?? This is a blog site right?? Its not like I'm Garths proof reader? I was never a C student. More like D-

As for Kane, didnt mean just a pick. If Botterill wants him and gets him signed for 2-3 years for 6M sure do it. If he cant id take a Top 4 D, or a Top 12 pick this year or a combo of the 2. Late 1st round pick with a top(ish) D prospect. Yea everyone wants a trade to work in buffalo's favor but with a injury prone winger ( sorry he is ) that can get in a little trouble in the off season ( sure not convicted but not really debatable ) for a Top flight defenseman........good luck. Just needs to be a good hockey trade.

And its been 3 years for Reinhart. Giving up would be to release him. Trading him for a position of need and replacing him thru the draft or FA with someone that's faster and can play like hes not playing in Europe would be smart. We drafted him to be a center. Seems like we got 1C and 2C down next 8 years. Between Girgensons and Rodrigues could be your 3C.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:40 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/350482
- jdfitz77



prices seem fair but i dont know how far this team actually goes and trading back to back first rounders is dangerous


it just reads like a lot of mortgaging the future for what would be a good team, not a great one.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
You're all terrible.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:53 PM ET
prices seem fair but i dont know how far this team actually goes and trading back to back first rounders is dangerous


it just reads like a lot of mortgaging the future for what would be a good team, not a great one.

- Sabresfan-365




I think there's ways to avoid trading 1sts,
I just included them so ppl wouldn't comment how the trade wouldn't happen

For example:
To get Brodin...
take away our 1st round pick

But we also take back Pominville from them,
so they can protect Zucker
also helps with their Cap so they can sign Niederreiter & Granlund


As far as how good our team will be...
Idk?
But how much worse is that lineup than Nashville or Pittsburgh?

Crosby & Malkin > Eichel & Oreilly
But I like our scoring depth
And our defense is better than them

Nashville top4 > our top4
But our forward group, ESP at Center is better & deeper
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Jun 10 @ 7:56 PM ET
Welcome Zig. You didn't piss me off but paragraphs make long posts easier to read.
I think it's hard to know what any player will do in the playoffs until they actually play in one. I don't think anyone saw Jake Guentzel's success coming like it did.

I'm still hopeful on Samson although I realize that club is a shrinking one. I'm also on record for supporting keeping Kane, also a somewhat unpopular position.

I agree with your appeal to "fix the D...draft good and give kids a shot". You also brought something up that I'd like to see; people stating before the draft who they would like to take vs those they'd like to avoid. Captain Hindsight is a great GM, but it's much harder to do beforehand.

- PrinceChill


Thanks Prince. Trust me I think both players are good players and will be in the future. I like Kane. But I'm also thinking about the cap. If I think he can stay healthy I would sign him to a longer deal at 6M. But that's not a gamble I'm willing to take with how many people we have signed long term and who we will have to sign in the future.

But yea I'm not a fan of Reinhart. Don't like hockey players that don't compete in corners and don't have the knack to win 1v1. Ok if he had elite goal scoring ability or had great speed or could put up great numbers and still couldent win 1v1 battles I wouldent care as much. But as of right now he cant.


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:57 PM ET
You're all terrible.
- jochfr

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:57 PM ET
Paragraphs I get. Will do. But proof read?? This is a blog site right?? Its not like I'm Garths proof reader? I was never a C student. More like D-

As for Kane, didnt mean just a pick. If Botterill wants him and gets him signed for 2-3 years for 6M sure do it. If he cant id take a Top 4 D, or a Top 12 pick this year or a combo of the 2. Late 1st round pick with a top(ish) D prospect. Yea everyone wants a trade to work in buffalo's favor but with a injury prone winger ( sorry he is ) that can get in a little trouble in the off season ( sure not convicted but not really debatable ) for a Top flight defenseman........good luck. Just needs to be a good hockey trade.

And its been 3 years for Reinhart. Giving up would be to release him. Trading him for a position of need and replacing him thru the draft or FA with someone that's faster and can play like hes not playing in Europe would be smart. We drafted him to be a center. Seems like we got 1C and 2C down next 8 years. Between Girgensons and Rodrigues could be your 3C.

- ZiggyBuff


2 years and 9 games does not 3 years make. If it was 3 years we'd have to protect him. We don't have to protect him. But that's neither here nor there. 2 years or 3 still isn't enough time for a player to come into his own.
Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Jun 10 @ 7:59 PM ET
If you give Kane the long term deal he will inevitably want, then you are stuck with Okposo and Kane locked long term, which makes your wingers on both sides far short of a championship caliber one with little flexibility in order to upgrade it. And you have even less cap space to upgrade the tire fire that is this team's defense corps in its current state. And that assumes you figure out a way to get out from under Moulson's contract.


You do realize you don't have to have won the cup to be considered championship caliber. Okposo and Kane are championship caliber.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:59 PM ET
I think there's ways to avoid trading 1sts,
I just included them so ppl wouldn't comment how the trade wouldn't happen

For example:
To get Brodin...
take away our 1st round pick

But we also take back Pominville from them,
so they can protect Zucker
also helps with their Cap so they can sign Niederreiter & Granlund


As far as how good our team will be...
Idk?
But how much worse is that lineup than Nashville or Pittsburgh?

Crosby & Malkin > Eichel & Oreilly
But I like our scoring depth
And our defense is better than them

Nashville top4 > our top4
But our forward group, ESP at Center is better & deeper

- jdfitz77


im not as big on brodin as most but in general this gives us two defensive, shot suppressing guys. no true offensive puck movers so you're banking on mccabe and risto suddenly becoming 5 on 5 studs offensively.

Betting big on Justin Bailey too who hasnt shown anything yet and a past his prime james neal.

Id rather just play it patient
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:59 PM ET
Paragraphs I get. Will do. But proof read?? This is a blog site right?? Its not like I'm Garths proof reader? I was never a C student. More like D-

As for Kane, didnt mean just a pick. If Botterill wants him and gets him signed for 2-3 years for 6M sure do it. If he cant id take a Top 4 D, or a Top 12 pick this year or a combo of the 2. Late 1st round pick with a top(ish) D prospect. Yea everyone wants a trade to work in buffalo's favor but with a injury prone winger ( sorry he is ) that can get in a little trouble in the off season ( sure not convicted but not really debatable ) for a Top flight defenseman........good luck. Just needs to be a good hockey trade.

And its been 3 years for Reinhart. Giving up would be to release him. Trading him for a position of need and replacing him thru the draft or FA with someone that's faster and can play like hes not playing in Europe would be smart. We drafted him to be a center. Seems like we got 1C and 2C down next 8 years. Between Girgensons and Rodrigues could be your 3C.

- ZiggyBuff

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Jammerz04
Buffalo Sabres
Location: K, BC
Joined: 01.03.2014

Jun 10 @ 8:03 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/350504


people are gonna love this team

I have vegas taking ennis

- homiedclown


I also hope you are joking about that Calgary deal? Treliving wouldn't do that if he was high as a kite.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 8:05 PM ET
2 years and 9 games does not 3 years make. If it was 3 years we'd have to protect him. We don't have to protect him. But that's neither here nor there. 2 years or 3 still isn't enough time for a player to come into his own.
- Wetbandit1



I really think Sam will blossom if he's moved back to Center
He'll get good matchups as 3C, and he can better use his playmaking skills

It'll allow us to role 3 lines
and he'll still be on PP1

Late in games when we are down 1,
he can be moved up to Eichel or O'Reilly's wing

Not to mention, it's the position he played his whole life...
Makes sense to me anyways
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 10 @ 8:08 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/350482
- jdfitz77


For the 18-19 season...should have read that first haha. Would have saved me a couple minutes of headscratching, but would have lost a good laugh at myself.

I like what you did. Love that defense and think it's actually something feasible. I worry that we traded a lot of picks for players in your scenario...8th overall this year, plus 1st and 2nd rounders gone for next year. Other than that I think was a good shot at it!
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Jun 10 @ 8:09 PM ET
2 years and 9 games does not 3 years make. If it was 3 years we'd have to protect him. We don't have to protect him. But that's neither here nor there. 2 years or 3 still isn't enough time for a player to come into his own.
- Wetbandit1


You right, my bad bandit. Forgot he only played those 9 games. And yes 2-3 years is not enough. I'm just thinking of what this team needs now and who actually has value to get that. Feel Reinharts a bad fit for this team. He's slow and this teams slow. And this teams short 2 top 4 defenseman that usually take 2- 4 years to develop. Not a good combo.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 8:10 PM ET
I also hope you are joking about that Calgary deal? Treliving wouldn't do that if he was high as a kite.
- Jammerz04


Getting johnny hockey would be impossible agreed
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
I think there's ways to avoid trading 1sts,
I just included them so ppl wouldn't comment how the trade wouldn't happen

For example:
To get Brodin...
take away our 1st round pick

But we also take back Pominville from them,
so they can protect Zucker
also helps with their Cap so they can sign Niederreiter & Granlund


As far as how good our team will be...
Idk?
But how much worse is that lineup than Nashville or Pittsburgh?

Crosby & Malkin > Eichel & Oreilly
But I like our scoring depth
And our defense is better than them

Nashville top4 > our top4
But our forward group, ESP at Center is better & deeper

- jdfitz77

Can't we just sign niederiter instead? I'll take zucker too.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 10 @ 8:13 PM ET
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 10 @ 8:14 PM ET
You right, my bad bandit. Forgot he only played those 9 games. And yes 2-3 years is not enough. I'm just thinking of what this team needs now and who actually has value to get that. Feel Reinharts a bad fit for this team. He's slow and this teams slow. And this teams short 2 top 4 defenseman that usually take 2- 4 years to develop. Not a good combo.
- ZiggyBuff

It's not a matter of fit, it's a matter of just not being very good.

Reinhart would be fine here for the next 7-10 years being a mediocre top 6 player, or you can try and pull a fast one on a GM who liked him when he came out
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 10 @ 8:14 PM ET
I really think Sam will blossom if he's moved back to Center
He'll get good matchups as 3C, and he can better use his playmaking skills

It'll allow us to role 3 lines
and he'll still be on PP1

Late in games when we are down 1,
he can be moved up to Eichel or O'Reilly's wing

Not to mention, it's the position he played his whole life...
Makes sense to me anyways

- jdfitz77

If Sam is 3c and has competent wingers he will be very good.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 10 @ 8:16 PM ET

- buffalofan19

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