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keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:23 PM ET

- homiedclown

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:24 PM ET

- keptupl8




over the line?
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:25 PM ET



over the line?

- homiedclown

mark it zero

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 10 @ 4:30 PM ET
please define "championship wingers"...present day examples would be greatly appreciated
- Michael Pachla

Scott Wilson, a 37 year old Chris Kunitz, Patric Hornqvist, Bryan Rust, Connor Sherry, Jake Guentzel (excuse the spelling)
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:32 PM ET
mark it zero


- keptupl8

oh sh!t

keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:36 PM ET
oh sh!t


- homiedclown

Did you see him in 10 Cloverfield Lane? He had his Dan Conner bod back and then some
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
Did you see him in 10 Cloverfield Lane? He had his Dan Conner bod back and then some
- keptupl8

yeah

then saw him in patriot's day

he doesn't look good
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 10 @ 4:49 PM ET
Scott Wilson, a 37 year old Chris Kunitz, Patric Hornqvist, Bryan Rust, Connor Sherry, Jake Guentzel (excuse the spelling)
- Pegullaville

Isn't this kind of a perfect example on why not to invest a ton in wingers?
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
yeah

then saw him in patriot's day

he doesn't look good

- homiedclown

I'd hit that
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 5:17 PM ET
i'll give you Chicago because of kane and hossa...when chris kunitz was traded for, I highly doubt anyone called him a championship winger...rookie jake guentzel is having a helluva season and they have a bunch of nobody's other than phil kessel...he was considered an excellent scorer but the words 'championship' and 'kessel' together were never taken seriously...

that's a start...what other names can you put into the conversation?

- Michael Pachla


By folks in Canada...
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 10 @ 5:18 PM ET
I'd trade Bogo and a 2nd for Eberle and keep Kane if this were the case.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Holy S, where do I sign? I'm good with all of the above.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 5:19 PM ET
Scott Wilson, a 37 year old Chris Kunitz, Patric Hornqvist, Bryan Rust, Connor Sherry, Jake Guentzel (excuse the spelling)
- Pegullaville



I would trade all of Buffalo's wingers for that group in a heartbeat. They're more productive, and they take up less cap space.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
I'm always like 2 hours late to the new blogs
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 5:52 PM ET
Ok... just possibilities here
The Cap seems to go up 3mil each year, so that's what I went with


https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/edit/350482


1) defensemen don't have to be Brodin & Manson, those are just guys I like that could be moved... (sub in whoever though)
I think what we give back is very reasonable
There's also more draft picks, plus guys like Carrier & Rodrigues who aren't in my lineup for the 18-19 season which could be added to a trade if we really need to add more to make the deals work

2) I signed Neal bc we have the Cap space, even with signing Kane as well
Guys like Nash & VanRiemsdyk are also UFA though
And even if we didn't sign another forward...
take out Neal & I still think our forwards look good


This was mainly done to show how we can EASILY afford to sign Kane,
and bring in TWO defensemen for the top4

IF we can't move Moulson & Ennis...
that's even fine
Just ditch Neal & re-add them
It'll fit

And that's with 16 forwards & 9 defensemen counting towards the Cap
Knock it down to 13 & 7 and it gives us about 4mil more in room

We could even buy out Moulson to give us more room

After 18-19...
Moulson is gone & Ennis has only 1 year left


Our Cap situation is not bad at all...
even if it only goes up 2mil per season
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 10 @ 6:04 PM ET
Ok... just possibilities here
The Cap seems to go up 3mil each year, so that's what I went with


https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/team/350482


- jdfitz77


Doesn't seem to load, for me anyways.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 10 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'm always like 2 hours late to the new blogs
- chilliard77


SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
Eberle is soft why do we want him? but yet people complain about paying wingers. Pass
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 10 @ 6:21 PM ET

- RhinoFan

Probably
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 10 @ 6:26 PM ET
Just saw Ww for 5 $ in RPX lol

Movie just keeps getting better

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 6:43 PM ET
Doesn't seem to load, for me anyways.
- RhinoFan



That's weird...
try it from here

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/edit/350482
ZiggyBuff
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.10.2017

Jun 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
What up Buzz peeps! Been reading the Buzz for has to be around 8 years now and this is my first post. Bout time! Had to put my input in. Think murrey set us back a bit but think everyone agrees about that. Thought he morgaged the future. Think he messed up drafting reinhart instead of Draisaitl. Not saying that now because draisaitl had a great year but thought that at the draft. Murray was saying he wanted a big team and Draisaitl was that body. Think the knock on him during the draft was he took shifts off or something. But whatever thats the past. Reinharts not bad and could be a good player. But do you guys see him as a player that will show up in the playoffs?? Watching the playoffs right now i just cant see reinhart not getting destroyed. Or winning a battle. If he cant win a battle or go in the corner without being scared of getting hit in the regular season hows he gonna do it in the playoffs when everyones going 110%. Seen 3 seasons of him and dont think he will change. Never know. Think if we can trade him do it. Get a yound top 4 D for him. Add if need be. As for kane yea i like his play. But for a soon to be 6M dollar winger he is just injured to much. Would love him in the playoffs but after 82 games who knows if hes still standing. Trade him for a D and or a player, pick. If we can sign him for 2-3 years at 6M i wouldent be apposed. I agree with people no need to overpay for wingers. If you got a elite one sure give him his money. But seems like every free agency theres 3-4 guys around 3.5-4 mil on short deals that can give you 20-25 goals and 40-50 points. Hmmm sound like kane and reinhart. Time to make this team faster and playoff caliber. Fix the D, get guys that compete and draft good and give some of these kids a shot. I know its not gonna happen this off season but also dont think we are very far off. Think botterill is the guy. Hope i didnt piss to many people off haha
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:02 PM ET
What's with Eberle on the "chart", Sabres leading the pack? Shouldn't get a ton back for the combo of salary and recent production, but the question is, are we interested and if so at what cost?
- chugger38


2019 1st.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
What up Buzz peeps! Been reading the Buzz for has to be around 8 years now and this is my first post. Bout time! Had to put my input in. Think murrey set us back a bit but think everyone agrees about that. Thought he morgaged the future. Think he messed up drafting reinhart instead of Draisaitl. Not saying that now because draisaitl had a great year but thought that at the draft. Murray was saying he wanted a big team and Draisaitl was that body. Think the knock on him during the draft was he took shifts off or something. But whatever thats the past. Reinharts not bad and could be a good player. But do you guys see him as a player that will show up in the playoffs?? Watching the playoffs right now i just cant see reinhart not getting destroyed. Or winning a battle. If he cant win a battle or go in the corner without being scared of getting hit in the regular season hows he gonna do it in the playoffs when everyones going 110%. Seen 3 seasons of him and dont think he will change. Never know. Think if we can trade him do it. Get a yound top 4 D for him. Add if need be. As for kane yea i like his play. But for a soon to be 6M dollar winger he is just injured to much. Would love him in the playoffs but after 82 games who knows if hes still standing. Trade him for a D and or a player, pick. If we can sign him for 2-3 years at 6M i wouldent be apposed. I agree with people no need to overpay for wingers. If you got a elite one sure give him his money. But seems like every free agency theres 3-4 guys around 3.5-4 mil on short deals that can give you 20-25 goals and 40-50 points. Hmmm sound like kane and reinhart. Time to make this team faster and playoff caliber. Fix the D, get guys that compete and draft good and give some of these kids a shot. I know its not gonna happen this off season but also dont think we are very far off. Think botterill is the guy. Hope i didnt piss to many people off haha
- ZiggyBuff


2 things. Paragraphs. That's really hard to read. And proofread.

I'm absolutely not trading Kane for a pick. Not going to happen. No one is giving us a pick that's anywhere near his value, and multiple picks is even worse. I would do a 1 for 1 maybe add a bit on our side. A 2nd or 3rd. For a good, young top 4 guy.

I'm not trading Reinhart after 2 seasons unless it's for an obscene overpayment.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 10 @ 7:09 PM ET
2019 1st.
- Wetbandit1



I think a 2nd would probably do the trick
Seems like they really want out of his contract
RNH is underrated too
They're dumb if they trade him on the cheap
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:11 PM ET
That's weird...
try it from here

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/edit/350482

- jdfitz77



still doesnt work, your linking from an edit page, you have to publish it first or manually copy and paste the moves made and the lineup
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