I think the Hawks are looking to totally clear Salary though
They have major cap issues for next season
So they can't take on any significant $$$
- jdfitz77

I think the Hawks should trade Panarin.

Those Toews and Kane contracts are really biting them in the ass, and now with how Toews has fallen, they can't afford to trade Kane

if the hawks retained 25% of seabrook

would you give them bailey, borgen, carrier and 2 seconds for seabrook?


serious question
- homiedclown

Probably

we retain 30% of bogo


give them 2 cheap kids, bailey and carrier

they jump on it
- homiedclown

That still has them taking on 5mil or so

And Seabrook's deal is still with us for SEVEN more years
How is that a good idea?

I think the Hawks should trade Panarin.

Those Toews and Kane contracts are really biting them in the ass, and now with how Toews has fallen, they can't afford to trade Kane
- chilliard77

With Panarin at a decent cap hit,
I think that's all the more reason they can NOT trade him

They're offense is really gonna center on those 2 plus any decent youngsters that may be coming up

That still has them taking on 5mil or so

And Seabrook's deal is still with us for SEVEN more years
How is that a good idea?
- jdfitz77

I want a cup

I will worry about years 6 and 7 of his deals later

if the hawks retained 25% of seabrook

would you give them bailey, borgen, carrier and 2 seconds for seabrook?


serious question
- homiedclown

I wouldn't give them ONE of those options
That's freaking insane Homie

You're gonna give up all those assets...
for a guy that would cost over 5mil until he's 39yrs old?!

I want a cup

I will worry about years 6 and 7 of his deals later
- homiedclown

Seabrook does not = Cup

Hell... Karlsson doesn't even equal Cup

And it's not just years 6 & 7
It's more likely years 4-7

And the Cap hit hamstrings us from doing anything else

We don't disagree often...
but we could t be further apart on this

seabrook is bad...not just his cap hit he's bad now


and rumourbreak isnt a real thing

leetch played til he was 38
lindstrom til he was 42
chara is 40 now, he was fine as a 3 the last 2 years
nieds played at a great level at 37, his last year
'borque played til he was 41

seabrook is not at that level (norris), but he has not dropped off like people think

your getting him for 50 cents on the dollar and probably 5 decent years


and he has missed 13 games in 11 years

I want a cup

I will worry about years 6 and 7 of his deals later
- homiedclown

then you want someone who is good, he isn't anymore

I wouldn't give them ONE of those options
That's freaking insane Homie

You're gonna give up all those assets...
for a guy that would cost over 5mil until he's 39yrs old?!
- jdfitz77

what assets?


the next joel armia, tj brennan and mal davis?

then you want someone who is good, he isn't anymore
- Sabresfan-365

JJ disagrees

he watches them more then we do

what assets?


the next joel armia, tj brennan and mal davis?
- homiedclown

If u think Seabrook still has value for 5 years or so...
and that those pieces would get him...

Why not use those piece to get Vatanen (or whoever),
who is MUCH younger & at a better Cap hit

JJ disagrees

he watches them more then we do
- homiedclown

JJ's one of the worst on here.

Seabrook is a hard pass, he got absolutely carved the (frank) up during the Nashville series

https://twitter.com/DimFi...status/868156965058465792

JJ's one of the worst on here.

Seabrook is a hard pass, he got absolutely carved the (frank) up during the Nashville series
- Sabresfan-365

nashville carved up a lot of teams this post season

nashville carved up a lot of teams this post season
- homiedclown

seabrook was far and away the worst.

If u think Seabrook still has value for 5 years or so...
and that those pieces would get him...

Why not use those piece to get Vatanen (or whoever),
who is MUCH younger & at a better Cap hit
- jdfitz77

your getting seabrook for pennies on the dollar

with vatanen you will have to overpay


just my 2 cents

your getting seabrook for pennies on the dollar

with vatanen you will have to overpay


just my 2 cents
- homiedclown

one is good, the other isn't.(although id take neither)


what's this dire need for mediocrity? rushing it by acquiring these players is exactly how team spends a decade in ninth place

With Panarin at a decent cap hit,
I think that's all the more reason they can NOT trade him

They're offense is really gonna center on those 2 plus any decent youngsters that may be coming up
- jdfitz77

6 mil and he can walk in two years, not that decent

JJ's one of the worst on here.

Seabrook is a hard pass, he got absolutely carved the (frank) up during the Nashville series
- Sabresfan-365

and most of the regular season

leetch played til he was 38
lindstrom til he was 42
chara is 40 now, he was fine as a 3 the last 2 years
nieds played at a great level at 37, his last year
'borque played til he was 41

seabrook is not at that level (norris), but he has not dropped off like people think

your getting him for 50 cents on the dollar and probably 5 decent years


and he has missed 13 games in 11 years
- homiedclown

There's MANY MANY more who drop off the cliff before 35 than are productive after that age

Taking a gamble on Seabrook remaining productive that long only makes sense if he makes us a Cup contender right NOW

He does NOT though

Is he still good? Yeah... I think so
But is he any better than guys like Brodin and others who are being mentioned as available?

IF he is... it's not by much of a margin
Certainly not enough of a margin to risk that huge, long contract

seabrook was far and away the worst.
- Sabresfan-365

I saw keith, panarin and toews play like crap as well


I just think that entire team was gripping their sticks too hard for the entire series

I mean they only got 3 goals in the series, 1 even strength

6 mil and he can walk in two years, not that decent
- chilliard77

If they're gonna trade Panarin,
It's gotta be to get a guy on his ELC who will still produce for them

Not as a sweetener to get rid of Seabrook

There's MANY MANY more who drop off the cliff before 35 than are productive after that age

Taking a gamble on Seabrook remaining productive that long only makes sense if he makes us a Cup contender right NOW

He does NOT though

Is he still good? Yeah... I think so
But is he any better than guys like Brodin and others who are being mentioned as available?

IF he is... it's not by much of a margin
Certainly not enough of a margin to risk that huge, long contract
- jdfitz77

I think seabrook and keeping kane makes us a much better team than brodin and losing kane

at some point you need to make the playoffs and get this ball rolling, hell an 8th seed can make the finals


is seabrook the guy I want to target, no
can I name 20 guys I would rather have, probably

of those 20 guys, 12 or so could be had if you overpay


I am open minded if it happens


nothing more
nothing less