Offersheet Johnson and Drouin. (frank) Tampa!!!!
- mattsox

If there was a GM u think might do it...
would've been Murray

I can't believe all the GMs let Tampa get Kucherov at such a deal

And Anaheim could've really been Fd with if someone had signed Lindholm to an offer sheet as well
(They eventually signed him for just over 5mil, but couldn't do so until the season started & Despres went on LTIR)

Imagine if we got one of those 2 guys...
damn it Timmy!

What I have learned

We are too good for -

Jake Muzzin (he's also like Bogo)
Noah Hanifin (Unless CAR adds )

Kane is better than Okposo and O'Reilly
Bylsma is the reason we aren't in Game 5 against Nashville
- sbroads24

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

What I have learned

We are too good for -

Jake Muzzin (he's also like Bogo)
Noah Hanifin (Unless CAR adds )

Kane is better than Okposo and O'Reilly
Bylsma is the reason we aren't in Game 5 against Nashville
- sbroads24

You're wildly exaggerating the points ppl were making

You're wildly exaggerating the points ppl were making
- jdfitz77

Aristotle agrees.

You're wildly exaggerating the points ppl were making
- jdfitz77

Carolina easily would.

They have Jordan Staal as their number one centre. Reinhart would automatically become their number one centre.
- Jammerz04

If we acquire Muzzin, people will be all over him like they are with bogosian. He has shown he is a 3rd or 4th defensemen, and only thrives when he plays with doughty. If it wasn't for Kane's issues(which are literally nothing) no one would even be completing Kane for Muzzin.

I for one do not feel like getting older and slower.

They need to shred dead cap this season, not acquire another contract that we will soon regret.

-talk to Vegas, see if they are looking at Ennis, if they are not looking at Ennis, make a deal with them to take Ennis.
-Do what they can to move Bogosian, I have a feeling a naive GM will still take a chance on him if the price is low.
-call Arizona give them Moulson, retain half his salary this year, and a 3rd round pick for a 4th round pick. Next year his salary is only 3 million, and they love players with low salaries and bigger cap hits.
-Draft BPA
-Sign two vet defensemen to play along with Risto, McCabe, Antipin, and Gorges(he is on the last year of his contract, no need to move him in the offseason)
- Mentalorgasm5

okposo says hi
- homiedclown

Offersheet Johnson and Drouin. (frank) Tampa!!!!
- mattsox

What I have learned

We are too good for -

Jake Muzzin (he's also like Bogo)
Noah Hanifin (Unless CAR adds )

Kane is better than Okposo and O'Reilly
Bylsma is the reason we aren't in Game 5 against Nashville
- sbroads24

to be fair

1.you bragged about muzzin getting a norris trophy vote, that means nothing as many times a local writer will vote for someone who has no shot so another guy has an edge (doughty)
hell myers got a norris trophy vote

2. you say all the time special teams don't matter much, yet your dogging a player who puts up better 5 on 5 numbers than okposo or ror, CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

3. coaching was a train wreck


4. some people, you may be included, would b!tch about the sabres if they won a cup in 6 games, instead of 4



armia for the selke!!!!!!

to be fair

1.you bragged about muzzin getting a norris trophy vote, that means nothing as many times a local writer will vote for someone who has no shot so another guy has an edge (doughty)
hell myers got a norris trophy vote

2. you say all the time special teams don't matter much, yet your dogging a player who puts up better 5 on 5 numbers than okposo or ror, CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

3. coaching was a train wreck


4. some people, you may be included, would b!tch about the sabres if they won a cup in 6 games, instead of 4



armia for the selke!!!!!!
- homiedclown

To be fair,

*you're

You're wildly exaggerating the points ppl were making
- jdfitz77

no he is using it to set his agenda for the moment


years ago he laughed how myers got a norris trophy vote, but it mattered for muzzin


for years 5 on 5 play is the most important thing, yet he dogs kane all the time (racist?)

he always takes the path of stirring the pot instead of bringing information to the table, last night I threw out a handful of names I prefer to muzzin (after saying he is ok) yet no response to this



here is a thought (not directed at you), bring some names to the table that you like

moves that you would make instead of b!tching all the freaking time



I will throw one out there

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
discuss

To be fair,

*you're
- sbroads24

To be fair,

*you're
- sbroads24

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

no he is using it to set his agenda for the moment


years ago he laughed how myers got a norris trophy vote, but it mattered for muzzin


for years 5 on 5 play is the most important thing, yet he dogs kane all the time (racist?)

he always takes the path of stirring the pot instead of bringing information to the table, last night I threw out a handful of names I prefer to muzzin (after saying he is ok) yet no response to this





here is a thought (not directed at you), bring some names to the table that you like

moves that you would make instead of b!tching all the freaking time



I will throw one out there

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
discuss
- homiedclown

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion

Logic has no favorites.

no he is using it to set his agenda for the moment


years ago he laughed how myers got a norris trophy vote, but it mattered for muzzin


for years 5 on 5 play is the most important thing, yet he dogs kane all the time (racist?)

he always takes the path of stirring the pot instead of bringing information to the table, last night I threw out a handful of names I prefer to muzzin (after saying he is ok) yet no response to this



here is a thought (not directed at you), bring some names to the table that you like

moves that you would make instead of b!tching all the freaking time



I will throw one out there

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
discuss
- homiedclown

To be honest, with how poor this team performed, there really isn't much that shouldn't be considered.

Outside of a very few names, really only Jack, I'm willing to listen to anything.

To be honest, with how poor this team performed, there really isn't much that shouldn't be considered.

Outside of a very few names, really only Jack, I'm willing to listen to anything.
- gcomella34

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2

no he is using it to set his agenda for the moment


years ago he laughed how myers got a norris trophy vote, but it mattered for muzzin


for years 5 on 5 play is the most important thing, yet he dogs kane all the time (racist?)

he always takes the path of stirring the pot instead of bringing information to the table, last night I threw out a handful of names I prefer to muzzin (after saying he is ok) yet no response to this



here is a thought (not directed at you), bring some names to the table that you like

moves that you would make instead of b!tching all the freaking time



I will throw one out there

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
discuss
- homiedclown

Probably

Probably
- sbroads24

I knew you wouldn't respond


you're racist

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
- homiedclown

It's tough......maybe that's a starting point.

If they Flyers agreed to it, I may. But we better be VERY sure that we get an impact player at 2.

I'm all about taking chances, but that's kind of why I liked the last guy........

So take it for what it's worth...

no he is using it to set his agenda for the moment


years ago he laughed how myers got a norris trophy vote, but it mattered for muzzin


for years 5 on 5 play is the most important thing, yet he dogs kane all the time (racist?)

he always takes the path of stirring the pot instead of bringing information to the table, last night I threw out a handful of names I prefer to muzzin (after saying he is ok) yet no response to this



here is a thought (not directed at you), bring some names to the table that you like

moves that you would make instead of b!tching all the freaking time



I will throw one out there

pick 8 and ROR to the Flyers for pick 2
discuss
- homiedclown

I knew you wouldn't respond


you're racist
- homiedclown

You want Kane re-signed. I don't.

If Kane already had a deal, there wouldn't be talk of trading him.

I have 0 issue with people liking Kane as a player. He is a solid LW'er.

I have an issue with propping him up to be this elite goal scorer, while seemingly finding an issue with every D man he might be rumored to be dealt for.

We all agree that Top2-4 D men are more valuable than wingers, right? Especially to this team that desperately needs them

So you get a player with ROR's talent, unproven, for ROR and another high 1st.

No.

Use 8 and a mid level prospect to get up to 3 or 4 for Heiskanen. If he's not your guy, use the pick to get another top 4 dman.

Use a pick and a player to get Josh Manson.

So you get a player with ROR's talent, unproven, for ROR and another high 1st.

No.

Use 8 and a mid level prospect to get up to 3 or 4 for Heiskanen. If he's not your guy, use the pick to get another top 4 dman.

Use a pick and a player to get Josh Manson.
- TheSabresTaco

you get younger on the dot as this team is not ready to contend with the pieces Murray brought in and by the time they are, ror and okposo will be in their 30's

You like Kane. I can't get over losing Myers and Armia


- sbroads24

FIFY

It's tough......maybe that's a starting point.

If they Flyers agreed to it, I may. But we better be VERY sure that we get an impact player at 2.

I'm all about taking chances, but that's kind of why I liked the last guy........

So take it for what it's worth...
- gcomella34

If the gm is ready to move on from Kane, and he may not even sign here, it's a move to consider

Eichel, Hischier as your centers

you still have a young D with risto, mccabe, guhle and antipin

only piece out of place after a move like that is Okposo, if you can move Moulson up front

You want Kane re-signed. I don't.

If Kane already had a deal, there wouldn't be talk of trading him.

I have 0 issue with people liking Kane as a player. He is a solid LW'er.

I have an issue with propping him up to be this elite goal scorer, while seemingly finding an issue with every D man he might be rumored to be dealt for.

We all agree that Top2-4 D men are more valuable than wingers, right? Especially to this team that desperately needs them
- sbroads24

The reason this debate will last forever is because of these variables

-Top 4 D are worth more than most wingers. (i.e. Larsson for Hall)
-LW is harder to replace than RW
-Kane is very good at 5v5 but not very good on special teams
-This team desperately needs 5v5 talent
-Kane is a fast, aggressive sniper who is there to score goals and drive possession. His strength, speed and ability are very difficult to replace as one player. There are very few players in this league that have his combination of attributes
-Using him as a trade chip might be one of our best opportunities to get a defenseman that will help this team for the long term.
-His contract and demands, coupled with his past off ice issues and alleged locker room issues drive his value down, meaning he's worth more today to the Sabres than to a different team that doesn't know him and hasn't already had him in their lineup

With all of these factors, an agreement will never, ever be made.

We'll know Kane's fate soon enough, and I'm certain Bots has a pulse on the entire situation.

you get younger on the dot as this team is not ready to contend with the pieces Murray brought in and by the time they are, ror and okposo will be in their 30's
- homiedclown

Just signed ROR to a massive contract. Not only will he not be traded in the near future, it's bad business. Players and agents lose respect for you when something like that is done.