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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
tbf i think most of the people that were on team "uhhhh guys, we need a future #1 center?" have consistently been on team "make the pick"
- YuenglingJagr



Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 7 @ 2:30 PM ET
Not worth it by a long shot. Stand pat. And hell to the no on Mike Smith or any other nonsense with Montreal.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 2:32 PM ET
Make the pick.


It should be a tee shirt.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 7 @ 2:35 PM ET
Hopefully Hexy doesn't literally walk up and say "The Philadelphia Flyers are proud to select, the other guy."
- Mordecai

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:38 PM ET
The only trade I'm interested in with the #2 pick is 2+ for Liane.

Realistically, just settle down and take the guy NJ doesn't take. And (frank) the guy that NJ does take.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 2:44 PM ET
The only trade I'm interested in with the #2 pick is 2+ for Liane.

Realistically, just settle down and take the guy NJ doesn't take. And (frank) the guy that NJ does take.

- hereticpride




This. EXACTLY this.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 7 @ 2:50 PM ET
Quoting Bill: 'For example, a team such as the Colorado Avalanche could have the elements it would take -- a player such as Gabriel Landeskog or Matt Duchene, the 4th overall pick in 2017 and the chance for a first-round pick swap in 2018 to be an enticing option -- to make such an offer.'

Wait so I'm reading everyone right, you would not make this deal? You do understand Colorado could very well get the #1 overall next year and then have to swap?

Viladari, Landeskog or Duchene and a top 4 (most likely) in 2018

For

Hiech/Pat and a 13th-ish in 2018

I get the need for a #1 C. But don't you have a greater chance of that with this deal plus get a good young player?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
Quoting Bill: 'For example, a team such as the Colorado Avalanche could have the elements it would take -- a player such as Gabriel Landeskog or Matt Duchene, the 4th overall pick in 2017 and the chance for a first-round pick swap in 2018 to be an enticing option -- to make such an offer.'

Wait so I'm reading everyone right, you would not make this deal? You do understand Colorado could very well get the #1 overall next year and then have to swap?

Viladari, Landeskog or Duchene and a top 4 (most likely) in 2018

For

Hiech/Pat and a 13th-ish in 2018

I get the need for a #1 C. But don't you have a greater chance of that with this deal plus get a good young player?

- coffee junkie


I absolutely would not take that deal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
AMac + 2nd for Mike Smith
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
Haha EK with the mention of "heard late in the season Pekka to Philly".

He was reading my nonsense.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
AMac + 2nd for Mike Smith
- Nucker101

What is Smith's contract situation?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
Quoting Bill: 'For example, a team such as the Colorado Avalanche could have the elements it would take -- a player such as Gabriel Landeskog or Matt Duchene, the 4th overall pick in 2017 and the chance for a first-round pick swap in 2018 to be an enticing option -- to make such an offer.'

Wait so I'm reading everyone right, you would not make this deal? You do understand Colorado could very well get the #1 overall next year and then have to swap?

Viladari, Landeskog or Duchene and a top 4 (most likely) in 2018

For

Hiech/Pat and a 13th-ish in 2018

I get the need for a #1 C. But don't you have a greater chance of that with this deal plus get a good young player?

- coffee junkie

Bill is saying that as if it is the asking price. I'm not convinced Colorado would make that deal and neither would I.

This is the only deal I would be remotely interested in, and i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately.

To COL: 2nd overall

To PHI: 4th overall, Rantanen, Compher, 2018 1st(no lottery protection)
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:07 PM ET
This happens every year. Fools just trying to get some hype built up around the draft. Every prospect is the next messiah and everyone is trading up.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
What is Smith's contract situation?
- coffee junkie

2 years at 5.67 with a NTC
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
AMac + 2nd for Mike Smith
- Nucker101


I'd do it. Smith only has 2 years left and would be a nice bridge to the kids.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
Bill is saying that as if it is the asking price. I'm not convinced Colorado would make that deal and neither would I.

This is the only deal I would be remotely interested in, and i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately.

To COL: 2nd overall

To PHI: 4th overall, Rantanen, Compher, 2018 1st(no lottery protection)

- Mordecai


No way Colorado does that...unless Sakic is TRYING to get fired
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
Bill is saying that as if it is the asking price. I'm not convinced Colorado would make that deal and neither would I.

This is the only deal I would be remotely interested in, and i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately.

To COL: 2nd overall

To PHI: 4th overall, Rantanen, Compher, 2018 1st(no lottery protection)

- Mordecai

You want Colorado to give up Rantanen and next year's first to move up two spots?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:22 PM ET
You want Colorado to give up Rantanen and next year's first to move up two spots?
- hereticpride

"This is the only deal I would be remotely interested in, and i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately."
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:22 PM ET
Bill is saying that as if it is the asking price. I'm not convinced Colorado would make that deal and neither would I.

This is the only deal I would be remotely interested in, and i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately.

To COL: 2nd overall

To PHI: 4th overall, Rantanen, Compher, 2018 1st(no lottery protection)

- Mordecai



You really don't want to trade that pick! Fair enough. I think we are overrating the pick but hey, to each their own I guess.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:23 PM ET


You really don't want to trade that pick! Fair enough. I think we are overrating the pick but hey, to each their own I guess.

- coffee junkie

"...i can promise you Colorado would hang up immediately."
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 7 @ 3:23 PM ET
AMac + 2nd for Mike Smith
- Nucker101


I think Arizona would rather have one or more of our surplus forwards than the 44th overall pick.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
Let's not forget that i broke the rumor of NJ and Montreal talking on here yesterday.

EK is just riding my coattails

- Mordecai


All it does is for the millionth time confirm how spot on Ek is with the rumors. It turned out to be nothing and Patrick was in Montreal to meet with sponsors. He saw the fake news tweet and let his imagination take him and his readers away on a journey to Bullpoopville.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 7 @ 3:25 PM ET
All it does is for the millionth time confirm how spot on Ek is with the rumors. It turned out to be nothing and Patrick was in Montreal to meet with sponsors. He saw the fake news tweet and let his imagination take him and his readers away on a journey to Bullpoopville.
- Mononoke

i dont know what is real anymore
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
lol - just commenting for relevancy, but


- YuenglingJagr[releases mock draft]
man, (frank) craig button!
[compliments flyers new assistant coach]
love craig button!



Remember when Craig Button had the Flyers picking Samuel Morin at #11 and a number of people on this board lost their minds and said he was full of poop, that he was just going by the kinds of things the Flyers had done in the past and he didnt realize that things werent like that anymore around here?
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
Let's come back to Earth shall we?
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