True dat, boyfriend!

But it is best to stay on topic here, as many white men here helped get him votes...and think global warming is BS.

and to me, that is more nuts than any imaginary trades I read here in the last couple.

but back on track:

Could Duchene & Barrie be coming for AA, a defender and DeBrincat?

Kinda crazy scenario, but you have to root for Duchene to actually turn it around and be the player who earns that salary.
Barrie has always be suspect in his defensive end, but he jumps up in the play as well as any antelope out there...
- wiz1901

Global warming IS a crock; that's why they call it "climate change" now. Come talk to me in 30-ish years. You'll know why.

And who is this defender you are thinking of in this trade? Hope it isn't who I think it may be.

Well, that has to happen, or the big three simply become older and whether it is now or next year, you cannot move forward without the replacements.
- wiz1901

Speaking of defensemen, what is your take on Conor Timmins? Could you see Hawks pick him with #26 pick?

Speaking of defensemen, what is your take on Conor Timmins? Could you see Hawks pick him with #26 pick?
- MjulQvist

He's exactly the guy I want the Hawks to take at #26. Unless of course one of the much higher rated prospects falls to #26 for some reason.

I'm bored...so here's a crazy trade proposal. I know if would never happen, but in the interest of passing time until there is some real Blackhawks news. This is just for fun and assuming the players would accept the trade.

To Chicago:

Tavares - re-sign for $8 - $8.5 million
15th overall pick in 2017

To New York Islanders:

Toews
26th overall pick in 2017
Hinostroza

Point of order: Scotty never won the Stanley Cup while in St Louis.
- 35Tony0

He did go to 3 Cup Finals though as the Blues were the " Best of the West".

I'm bored...so here's a crazy trade proposal. I know if would never happen, but in the interest of passing time until there is some real Blackhawks news. This is just for fun and assuming the players would accept the trade.

To Chicago:

Tavares - re-sign for $8 - $8.5 million
15th overall pick in 2017

To New York Islanders:

Toews
26th overall pick in 2017
Hinostroza
- DarthKane

Tavares by far the better player at the moment. Toews' stock very low right now. That Toews makes 10.5M doesn't mean he was better than a 3.0M player last year.

Tavares by far the better player at the moment. Toews' stock very low right now. That Toews makes 10.5M doesn't mean he was better than a 3.0M player last year.
- Z3Hawk

True, good point. I should have explained part of my thinking in more depth. I was assuming Tavares did not want to re-sign in New York. That might prompt Snow to look for a "star" type of forward to replace him.

ND goalie Cal Petersen to the Hawks? http://lastwordonhockeypr...nding-spots-cal-petersen/

ND goalie Cal Petersen to the Hawks? http://lastwordonhockeypr...nding-spots-cal-petersen/
- Mr Ricochet

Chicago would seem like a good fit for Petersen. Wherever he lands he won't find an NHL starter job and unlikely he'll be a back-up next season.

1 - 1.5 years in the AHL then 1 - 1.5 years as a back-up in Chicago then Crawford's contract is up and he'd have a shot at the #1 role. That's assuming everything goes perfectly for Petersen, which rarely happens.

Chicago would seem like a good fit for Petersen. Wherever he lands he won't find an NHL starter job and unlikely he'll be a back-up next season.

1 - 1.5 years in the AHL then 1 - 1.5 years as a back-up in Chicago then Crawford's contract is up and he'd have a shot at the #1 role. That's assuming everything goes perfectly for Petersen, which rarely happens.
- DarthKane

Watched him extensively in juniors when he played for Waterloo. He and Brandon Montour lost in the Finals in 2013........ Kid has legs that seem to reach from side board to side board. Was a fan then and still am. Plus he catches with his right hand.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=121956

Chicago would seem like a good fit for Petersen. Wherever he lands he won't find an NHL starter job and unlikely he'll be a back-up next season.

1 - 1.5 years in the AHL then 1 - 1.5 years as a back-up in Chicago then Crawford's contract is up and he'd have a shot at the #1 role. That's assuming everything goes perfectly for Petersen, which rarely happens.
- DarthKane

Oh please let your analysis be wrong as this would mean I will be tortured by "Bad Goal" Crawford for another 3. It is my dream to have Crawford torture another team's fans.

I don't think Scotty's remotely up to it physically.
- John Jaeckel

Good point my comment goes to the desperation StanBo will be under if the season starts off bad.

Oh please let your analysis be wrong as this would mean I will be tortured by "Bad Goal" Crawford for another 3. It is my dream to have Crawford torture another team's fans.
- Z3Hawk

Do you need assistance on how to make your font red?

Speaking of defensemen, what is your take on Conor Timmins? Could you see Hawks pick him with #26 pick?
- MjulQvist

My profile on DraftSite doesn't include the fact I am really not sure if he ever can play the high pace game the nhl has morphed intbut at junior level he is very cool, collected and smart with every decision,pass, and displays a high IQ at the level.
I know I commented about his feet; I didn'y becessarily mean his skating, or balance, it is just that he starts to run around a bit under pressure, when he doesn't have the biscuit.
All that said, I am not sure if he projects even to a number #4 in the NHL, but will be happy to be incorrect.


https://www.draftsite.com...ayer/conor-timmins/26501/

My profile on DraftSite doesn't include the fact I am really not sure if he ever can play the high pace game the nhl has morphed intbut at junior level he is very cool, collected and smart with every decision,pass, and displays a high IQ at the level.
I know I commented about his feet; I didn'y becessarily mean his skating, or balance, it is just that he starts to run around a bit under pressure, when he doesn't have the biscuit.
All that said, I am not sure if he projects even to a number #4 in the NHL, but will be happy to be incorrect.


https://www.draftsite.com...ayer/conor-timmins/26501/
- wiz1901

Could he project to be just an unflashy yet steady #5 or #6? A consistently solid 3rd pair is just as important as a top-4.

Last is McCoshen, who still has 2 years on his ELC and will be tough to resign for Florida if he blows up before his contract runs out.
- chitownfan92

When his contract rund out he is a RFA so Florida still owns him, controls his fate.

and there is no valid reason for Florida to not continue to further his development:

https://www.draftsite.com...layer/ian-mccoshen/17574/

I am still not sure if Nathan Beaulieu, a terrific skater will develop into a competent backliner in his end. He has giddy-up but lacks defensive zone prowess.

https://www.draftsite.com...er/nathan-beaulieu/14783/

I'm bored..
- DarthKane

Best time to read scouting reports. Have seen Bowers live a few times and have seen him as a possibility for the Hawks at 26 this year. Never thought of Toews when I watched him or see a comparison made but this writer does: http://lastwordonhockeypr...report-2017-nhl-draft-28/

I think every NHL team goes into this weak draft class and says:


a) "Sure, if we can trade any pick from #15 on, and get a NHL player, we do it."


b) "As much as we have need for a defenseman, we cannot reach...best player on our list is the ONLY way we go in the first couple rounds"

c) "We have to get a guy who is going to play, so even if he is a bottom end of the line-up guy that is more important than we trying to swing for the fences and take someone who might be a scorer, but with failure, cannot play a role in the defensive end, the middle zone, etc.

d) "even though goaltenders are always a long term development project, there are enough good ones with abundant size to start considering in the second round if we really are bare in the area."

Point of order: Scotty never won the Stanley Cup while in St Louis.
- 35Tony0

Or Buffalo where he was the GM.

Why in gods name does everybody or a lot of people on this board want to trade Toews.He played hurt most of this year and the year before that Q used everybody and anybody on his line.They haven't found a replacement for Saad yet.The Hawks have to go get a lw with speed this off season and hopefully with a bit of grit.Toews can not continue to get abused like he has been.Why doesn't Bowman go get true 4th liners who gives the team energy and kills penalty's so the likes of Toews and Hossa doesn't have to anymore .The Hawks or should I say Q needs to manage his players better.Another thing,why did Keith play as much as he did last year when we had 6 decent defenseman ?

Best time to read scouting reports. Have seen Bowers live a few times and have seen him as a possibility for the Hawks at 26 this year. Never thought of Toews when I watched him or see a comparison made but this writer does: http://lastwordonhockeypr...report-2017-nhl-draft-28/
- Mr Ricochet

I will read that scouting report in a minute, but I gotta say, even when saw Toews in the World Cup Challenge a year ot two before he was in his drfat year, he was already a bull and strong on his pins.
Bowers is pretty light.

yeah, I and I know i just printed that list of NHL team draft day comments, but I think where Bowers gets pick depends a whole lot if a team sees adequate evidence that he is more than a 3rd line centre to get selected in the first, but believe me, I wouldn't be surpised if any of the any of the guys I have listed from 16 to 66, could get picked in the bottom of the first, as there is no clear cut wart free picks availble like in other years.
But with Bowers think of what teams thought of Brendan Gaunce, and weren't gonna to take him if they didn't see him as more than a thrid line centre.

Why in gods name does everybody or a lot of people on this board want to trade Toews.He played hurt most of this year and the year before that Q used everybody and anybody on his line.They haven't found a replacement for Saad yet.The Hawks have to go get a lw with speed this off season and hopefully with a bit of grit.Toews can not continue to get abused like he has been.Why doesn't Bowman go get true 4th liners who gives the team energy and kills penalty's so the likes of Toews and Hossa doesn't have to anymore .The Hawks or should I say Q needs to manage his players better.Another thing,why did Keith play as much as he did last year when we had 6 decent defenseman ?
- Tatoo

Nobody wants to trade any of our players or Big Buff, Ladd, Shawzie, and all the others but were forced to.

We are talking about eventual Cap solutions as the team starts on a true downward spiral.

I did bring it up, but based it on if Concussion and back issues were still a larger concern than we realized.

I will read that scouting report in a minute, but I gotta say, even when saw Toews in the World Cup Challenge a year ot two before he was in his drfat year, he was already a bull and strong on his pins.
Bowers is pretty light.

yeah, I and I know i just printed that list of NHL team draft day comments, but I think where Bowers gets pick depends a whole lot if a team sees adequate evidence that he is more than a 3rd line centre to get selected in the first, but believe me, I wouldn't be surpised if any of the any of the guys I have listed from 16 to 66, could get picked in the bottom of the first, as there is no clear cut wart free picks availble like in other years.
But with Bowers think of what teams thought of Brendan Gaunce, and weren't gonna to take him if they didn't see him as more than a thrid line centre.
- wiz1901

IMO Bowers' best skill is IQ. Just seems to slip into spots to make himself dangerous and definitely is a 3 zone player. Nothing exceptional, except for his IQ, but everything very good. And Wiz notate he played wing not center this past year.

Above my pay grade but agree he could go late 1st or drop to the 2nd round.

His path is a Steady Eddie path that reminds me of Hayden, although he has more skill and plays a different style than Hayden. ........This is the kind of "tweener" that high end hockey guys can project out as a middle 6 if he indeed ends up that good being drafted late 1st or 2nd round.

Why in gods name does everybody or a lot of people on this board want to trade Toews.He played hurt most of this year and the year before that Q used everybody and anybody on his line.They haven't found a replacement for Saad yet.The Hawks have to go get a lw with speed this off season and hopefully with a bit of grit.Toews can not continue to get abused like he has been.Why doesn't Bowman go get true 4th liners who gives the team energy and kills penalty's so the likes of Toews and Hossa doesn't have to anymore .The Hawks or should I say Q needs to manage his players better.Another thing,why did Keith play as much as he did last year when we had 6 decent defenseman ?
- Tatoo

For me, it is balancing the roster cap-wise. I am advocating the right trade in terms of players (plural) coming back and better $$$$ (cap-hit) balance.

I do not WANT to trade Toews.....or Kane, or Seabs, or Crow (4 highest cap hits). It IS clear, however this roster is WAY too top heavy. And all of us know the 'Hawks three recent titles came from depth. This roster is DEPLEATED of depth, both forward & defence, and now just recently, goaltender.

Trading lesser cap hit players like Kruger and Hammer ($7.2M for two players) does not make up nearly enough space AND return.

I just spent a minute or so on that Last Word website looking at their opinions and I am gonna bet this is a Toronto based website.

and I have trouble with respecting their opinions when they list the Wild as like 29 on organizational prospects, because they got more solid soon to be REAL NHL players than most on the other teams....