Who let z3hack and bigmoron out of the stoob basement? That door should remain locked at all times.
- MTounian

It had to be opened to stuff in vopatsrash

Ungrateful, ignorant clown...
- ArlingtonRob

He and Z3Hawk would require at least an additional 10 IQ points to qualify as such...and likely that's even too generous.

It had to be opened to stuff in vopatsrash
- riozzo

Imagine how much Rinne love/Crawford hate would be brewing down there... It'd be like a jittery LA fault line, except instead of an earthquake, hockey stoob rage would pour out like hot but ultimately stupid lava.

This reads Campbell & Bickell for Seabrook & AA...that's how skewed that deal is..and to the.Corey Crawford hater who think the team in front Of him is the reason for success:
I suggest your u watch him in tight-one of the best when being attacked, as there are few who are better, cooler, or intensely focused as he is and a terrific battler in the blue paint area when they crash
- wiz1901

Was just throwing stuff out based on JJ's post. Guess I need a mulligan on that one. As far as Crawford goes he's definitely somewhere in the top third of starters, no problem at all with his contract.

"Just heard form a proven source I have not heard from in some time:

Their opinion, based on what they hear at this time:

2,4,19,72 and 88 not going anywhere.

Pretty much everyone else, to varying degrees, is possible.

My editorial comment:

Hossa, Crawford and Seabrook are each and all less likely, albeit for different reasons (recapture penalties, limited NTC and NMC, respectively). But I would not rule out any of them completely.

To me, this points to Anisimov, Kruger, Panik, Kempny, youngsters with upside (like Hartman and Schmaltz), TVR and prospects. Anisimov and Kruger provide some cap relief, the rest would be sweeteners and/or value for value chips."

Who let z3hack and bigmoron out of the stoob basement? That door should remain locked at all times.
- MTounian

well his moniker is well earned: a hack he is...

every once in a while a mountain of ignorance gets in here to stir things up...he/she/it qualifies

Was just throwing stuff out based on JJ's post. Guess I need a mulligan on that one. As far as Crawford goes he's definitely somewhere in the top third of starters, no problem at all with his contract.

"Just heard form a proven source I have not heard from in some time:

Their opinion, based on what they hear at this time:

2,4,19,72 and 88 not going anywhere.

Pretty much everyone else, to varying degrees, is possible.

My editorial comment:

Hossa, Crawford and Seabrook are each and all less likely, albeit for different reasons (recapture penalties, limited NTC and NMC, respectively). But I would not rule out any of them completely.

To me, this points to Anisimov, Kruger, Panik, Kempny, youngsters with upside (like Hartman and Schmaltz), TVR and prospects. Anisimov and Kruger provide some cap relief, the rest would be sweeteners and/or value for value chips."
- walleyeb1

If they are going to use Hartman as a sweetner to move a contract, the end is nigh for this franchise. The Hawks need to keep players like Hartman, solid and not overpaid with NTC.

If they are going to use Hartman as a sweetner to move a contract, the end is nigh for this franchise. The Hawks need to keep players like Hartman, solid and not overpaid with NTC.
- kwolf68

Yes. I wasn't real happy about having to throw TT in to complete a Bickell trade and I like Hartman better overall so to me that would be even worse...way worse.

6M for 6Y - as idiotic a contract as has ever been. And can we please stop talking about Crawford as an elite goalie - outside of Chicago Crawford is considered average at best. He had been schooled over and over again by other goalies. In the Nashville series there was one goalie Rinne and one sieve.
- Z3Hawk

Thank you

I just love you Crawford apologists. There is NEVER
a time when Crawford should out-duel the opposing goalie, find a puck through a screen, find a puck in a scrum, find a puck that flies high, find a puck from the point, not leave the top of his net available etc etc etc. The Hawks didn't win 2 Cups because of Crawford. Actually, it would have been another First Round loss if he hadn't been pulled one year. You Crawford apologists like to forget Hawks won the first recent Cup with Niemi. I guess Niemi was the reason that year too and also all-world. Rinne did play lights out - let nothing in. That he made it look easy doesn't mean it was. Crawford on the other hand made every shot look very hard. 6M - insane. 6Y - more insane.
- Z3Hawk

Did you watch the 2013 Cup run? He should have been playoff MVP. And you are correct that he was terrible in rd 1 2015 however, how about giving him credit for bouncing back when he was put back in. And no sorry he was actually the best player for the Hawks this year in round 1. When your team scores zero goals and gets beaten to every loose puck and destroyed defensively, a goalie can only do so much. SOrry but Rinne was not Mike Smith 2.0. He didn't steal the series.

What happen to JJ rumor about a core player being possibly traded? Second anyone hear what the status is on Rutta or any other European or juniors collage free agents signings? seabrook retain 1.3 mil per year for 5 years I believe his last 2 years his nmt comes off to Edmonton for rienhart and slepshev or pulijujarvia.
- Scott1977

I didn't say traded. And it appears that one fizzled. Lots going on though (heard yesterday) and at least 2 core guys being discussed.

Yes. I wasn't real happy about having to throw TT in to complete a Bickell trade and I like Hartman better overall so to me that would be even worse...way worse.
- HawkintheD

You might not be happy with at least one thing I've heard discussed. Not involving Hartman as far as I've heard though.

You might not be happy with at least one thing I've heard discussed. Not involving Hartman as far as I've heard though.
- John Jaeckel

Definitely a strong possibility that something like that happens this summer, but I'd be more than a bit surprised if it involved Hartman or Schmaltz.

Not that I'd like to see either go but if they did I'm hoping it's an actual trade and not part of a deal to become Cap Compliant.

Sorry, haha, not in the business of making poop up and learned the hard way about going out with something that isn't independently verified. That particular rumor was big, made some sense, but doesn't appear to be true. Heard a separate thing yesterday I've been asked not to share yet. Also pretty big. Lots of moving parts so may not happen, but also talking to lots of teams about a lot of things I was told. How it goes.
- John Jaeckel

Not true? Or fell apart?

Not that it makes much difference, but the latter would mean at least they're seriously considering bold moves.

This reads Campbell & Bickell for Seabrook & AA...that's how skewed that deal is..and to the.Corey Crawford hater who think the team in front Of him is the reason for success:
I suggest your u watch him in tight-one of the best when being attacked, as there are few who are better, cooler, or intensely focused as he is and a terrific battler in the blue paint area when they crash
- wiz1901

Caps need a shake up too.

Go. Get. Tom Wilson

Caps need a shake up too.

Go. Get. Tom Wilson
- mrpaulish

You know as well as I know that Q would make him play a "soft as butter" game. Stick check instead of body check.

Caps need a shake up too.

Go. Get. Tom Wilson
- mrpaulish

1,000,000% agreed! Would be a good start,Caps aren't stupid enough to trade a kid like that. Hell ....... Roll the dice, offer them the mighty Schmaltz!
Just wondering if he did ever put the Indianhead on if Q orBowman would send him right to the Vet for a neuter job! Seems to be the M O, before you enter the UC, please leave your nuts at the front desk!

Definitely a strong possibility that something like that happens this summer, but I'd be more than a bit surprised if it involved Hartman or Schmaltz.

Not that I'd like to see either go but if they did I'm hoping it's an actual trade and not part of a deal to become Cap Compliant.
- HawkintheD

Probably not and even less likely.

But . . . really does depend on the return.

The Hawks are trying to do deals that check multiple boxes: reduce cap hit, acquire younger, cost-controlled NHL players in return.

Everyone knows what they're trying to do and why and the position they're in. They will not pull off any steals.

The one possible deal I heard about was a solid value for value deal for both clubs that some would scream about because of a young player involved from Chicago's end.

But it is the price of doing business—and business that absolutely needs to be done this summer.

Not true? Or fell apart?

Not that it makes much difference, but the latter would mean at least they're seriously considering bold moves.
- StLBravesFan

Probably not true. At this point in time anyway.

I think it was more conjecture that the person I spoke with took as fact. Originated with a personal assistant of the player mentioned. But it is also something that could happen at some point. Just likely not now.

You might not be happy with at least one thing I've heard discussed. Not involving Hartman as far as I've heard though.
- John Jaeckel

Would you be OK with it?

Hey peoples,

Can we dispense with the name-calling toward individuals we disagree with? Please. (and thx)

Probably not and even less likely.

But . . . really does depend on the return.

The Hawks are trying to do deals that check multiple boxes: reduce cap hit, acquire younger, cost-controlled NHL players in return.

Everyone knows what they're trying to do and why and the position they're in. They will not pull off any steals.

The one possible deal I heard about was a solid value for value deal for both clubs that some would scream about because of a young player involved from Chicago's end.

But it is the price of doing business—and business that absolutely needs to be done this summer.
- John Jaeckel

Hmmm... my guess would be Hayden or DeBrincat. Am I getting warm?

Would you be OK with it?
- FourOrr

I would!

But you know my thinking is this summer needs to be about addressing the cap situation and getting younger, but at least somewhat proven NHL players in return.

And that I am not as high overall on as many prospects as some are.

I tend to like those guys who have shown something at least on the NHL, or failing that at least the AHL level.

To me, Schmaltz is the best of what I would call the "prospects," and although Hartman is really past that point, I think Schmaltz may have the higher upside.

All that said, Hartman is a more complete NHL player today, and that's the thing about upside. Tom Poti had a lot of upside. Right?

The other thing, and some may not like this or will disagree, the only prospect, in my humble opinion, the Hawks should be holding onto with a vise-like grip right now would be a "can't miss blue chipper"- think a top 5 draft pick with obvious high NHL ability.

And I don't think they have any of those. Some have elevated DeBrincat to that level but I don't think his skill set (overall) screams NHL star right now anyway. He has some hands, desire and a GREAT release on his shot. But there are some areas where he is kind of more average or needs work.

IMO, also, I think they have 3-5 prospects that other GMs would see as something they'd like to have and would give up something significant for (as part of a package): Schmaltz, Forsling, Debrincat, maybe Hayden, maybe Fortin. And I think if the Hawks get anything of significance done this summer, 1-2 of those guys will be somewhere else when the dust settles.

Hmmm... my guess would be Hayden or DeBrincat. Am I getting warm?
- TyCamScore

Read nothing into this, but no comment. I was asked not to divulge specifics at this point.

Read nothing into this, but no comment. I was asked not to divulge specifics at this point.
- John Jaeckel

Thanks for your honesty. Strong trust between you and your source means we get more info.