As of right this minute with these lines we have 2 mill in cap room and another 6 mill if needed for someone .. only person not signed is RFA deHaan and Pelech... which depending on the expansion draft and moves before hand or right after we will see if one or both are even on the team.

Bailey/JT/Lee
Ladd/Nelson/Strome
Bouv/Barzal/HO Sang
Clutterbuck/casey/ Chimera / Kulemin

Subs- Quine or Prince )

Boychuk/Leddy
harmonic/Pulock
Hickey/Mayfield / seidendberg

halak and Greiss

Look like 12 friggin rookies to u?

All these numbers and possibilities, we are just a bunch of fans grasping at straws. Let's all relax and wait for snow to work some magic in the next month or so #UNBRIDLEDFAITH

$5M that can be put on LTIR. And that would only afford us $3M in wiggle room to exceed the cap (at this point in time).

Lots of money coming off the books next year, about $34.5M in total.

Give $10M of that to JT.

That leaves us with $24.5M to sign a goaltender, at least 3 defensemen, and around 7 forwards.

That's bad. Really bad. We are not fine, at all. Snow has a ton of work to do and I don't have a lot of faith that he'll do it well.
- eichiefs9

Goalie: Greiss is already signed for 3 years and you have 2 of the best goalie prospects in hockey in the system in Ilya Sorokin and Linus Soderstrom.
D-man- Leddy, Boychuk, harmonic are signed.. Pulock and Pelech will be RFA and I assume one of the Hickey, deHaan and Mayfield will be locked up.

We will not have 7 forwards needed to be signed.

When we have actually have a hard time b/c we are at the cap limit I will agreed with u... it has never been an issue with this team and when I look in the future and the mix of young kids who will push to make this team.. and contracts coming off the books I don't see an issue.
- niteislander

It's never been an issue because you have a moron GM who does nothing. This reasoning to me is asinine. Sorry I don't mean to come off like a douche but I will.

Handcuffing the team to stupid contracts for role players is (frank)ing dumb. You mentioned the rangers, flyers, etc with their bad contracts the difference is those players were valid contributors who earned those contracts and fell apart. Every single one of those players would've got that from every team when they were signed if not more. How many teams would sign cizikas and clutterbuck to these (frank)ing absurd contracts besides ours because Snow likes them? None
Cizikas was offered that money because Snow suddenly deemed him our new 3rd line center and decided to pay him as such even though he didnt earn it. To even debate this is ridiculous.

I'd rather pay $6 million for J.Staal's 15-20 goals than $3.4 mill for Cizikas' 8.
- BINGO!

"Career year for Cizikas"

Exactly

All these numbers and possibilities, we are just a bunch of fans grasping at straws. Let's all relax and wait for snow to work some magic in the next month or so #UNBRIDLEDFAITH
- Upstate_isles

If by magic you mean something bad then you my friend are way ahead of anyone on this thread.

his contract is slightly aggressive.. he is only 26 and at 3 mill a year it is hardly an albatross. You want to see an albatross look at Rangers and Flyers roster. Nash 8.2mil, Staal 6 mill, Girardi 5 mill, Stepan 7 mill, Giroux 9 mill, Amack 5+ mill..

our albatross IMO is Grabovski and possibly Boychuk in the near future. 3 mill should not be upsetting the apple cart.
- niteislander

CC and CC are bad contracts and don't forget Ladd at 6 more years

All these numbers and possibilities, we are just a bunch of fans grasping at straws. Let's all relax and wait for snow to work some magic in the next month or so #IMDRINKINGAGAIN
- Upstate_isles

FIXED*

CC and CC are bad contracts and don't forget Ladd at 6 more years
- nyisles7

You win one bet and you can walk on water? Im trolling my own board today, but some days it's more fun to bust balls then get caught up in the shenanigans that are the isles

FIXED*



- nyisles7

I've been dry since Sunday except 2 last night. Sunday was a 2 day hangover mess. People showed up with vodka and tequila

You know he was talking about Marc Staal, not Jordan Staal, right?
- JohnScammo

I did not.

Yes, that contract sucks.

I don't see the great job they're doing. Nobody is coming up from bdgpt and killing it and bdgpt certainly isn't making any noise since he has been coach. Most of our prospects have not come close to reaching their supposed potential. The results have been far from validating anyone is doing a good job with our prospects let alone in bdgpt.
- Cptmjl

strome lead the ahl in scoring when he was called up..its up those guys to get them ready...they do.. it is then up to the nhl staff to develop them

I'll give Thompson credit for getting JHS head out of his ass and helping him to think like a pro.

Other than that these guys do their job and haven't done anything that makes them stand out as "Great" as far as player developement imho.

If you had to grade them as you do the players, what grade would you give them?
- nyisles7

B... bport had a great season

On JHS Cpt., Thompson kicked him in the ass and made him grow up.
Now does that mean he's a success and Thompson made him who he is or taught him his skill absolutely not. But he busted the kids ass and it seemed to have worked as far as his attitude and I think that's all he really lacked. Now have you forget Allen Quine As far as success stories?

Carinsy was the guy who made JHS run steps when he came late to practice so Carins did that. Other than that? I think he was one of Snows buddies pure and simple.
- nyisles7

Alan Quine got better every season under Thompson.. it is not his fault that cappy and weight had him on the (frank)ing power play...

On JHS Cpt., Thompson kicked him in the ass and made him grow up.
Now does that mean he's a success and Thompson made him who he is or taught him his skill absolutely not. But he busted the kids ass and it seemed to have worked as far as his attitude and I think that's all he really lacked. Now have you forget Allen Quine As far as success stories?

Carinsy was the guy who made JHS run steps when he came late to practice so Carins did that. Other than that? I think he was one of Snows buddies pure and simple.
- nyisles7

just because someone was not a great nhl player doesn't mean that can't be a good coach and vice versa

As of right this minute with these lines we have 2 mill in cap room and another 6 mill if needed for someone .. only person not signed is RFA deHaan and Pelech... which depending on the expansion draft and moves before hand or right after we will see if one or both are even on the team.

Bailey/JT/Lee
Ladd/Nelson/Strome
Bouv/Barzal/HO Sang
Clutterbuck/casey/ Chimera / Kulemin

Subs- Quine or Prince )

Boychuk/Leddy
harmonic/Pulock
Hickey/Mayfield / seidendberg

halak and Greiss

Look like 12 friggin rookies to u?
- niteislander

I was talking about 2018-2019 when, under contract, you have:

Anders Lee
Andrew Ladd
Clutterbuck
Cizikas
Beauvillier
Boychuk
Leddy
Hamonic
Greiss

That's everybody on the roster today that has a contract for 2018-2019. $35 million.

Add Tavares at $10, that's $45 million. If the cap goes up to, say, $80 million, you now have $35 million to fill out the rest of the roster.

Nelson and Strome are RFA's with Arbitration rights, will get raises from their $2.5 they're currently making. Probably $4 million+

Prince and Quine can probably walk. That's 5 forward spots, 2 defensemen at a minimum, and a goaltender, for about $25-27 million.

If you use Pulock, he'll need a raise too.

Basically, unless the cap goes up substantially, you've got not a lot of money to sign an awful lot of players.

just because someone was not a great nhl player doesn't mean that can't be a good coach and vice versa
- Dan Petriw

No one disputes that point but with all of the great isles alumni they can't find a better guy than cairns for player development? Thompson has done very well in the ahl and if it wasn't for stupid rules they would have been in the playoffs this year. I think he has done fine down there

just because someone was not a great nhl player doesn't mean that can't be a good coach and vice versa
- Dan Petriw

I said that to you the other day about Gomez

strome lead the ahl in scoring when he was called up..its up those guys to get them ready...they do.. it is then up to the nhl staff to develop them
- Dan Petriw

Dan your defending an organization that has failed to build the team into a winner, after how many years?

You can't pick and choose. The rebuild, retooling whatever you want to call it Snow run Islanders has run its course and a sweeping change is needed to get this organization going in the right direction imho. That includes every aspect of the Islanders, from the bottom to the top, including BP. If a couple of people are kept because the new regime coming in thinks they are worthy no problem, but for the most part the whole Organization needs an overhaul or we as fans are going to experience the same BS until that day comes.

B... bport had a great season
- Dan Petriw

They make the POs?

They make the POs?
- nyisles7

No but it was still great

Dan your defending an organization that has failed to build the team into a winner, after how many years?

You can't pick and choose. The rebuild, retooling whatever you want to call it Snow run Islanders has run its course and a sweeping change is needed to get this organization going in the right direction imho. That includes every aspect of the Islanders, from the bottom to the top, including BP. If a couple of people are kept because the new regime coming in thinks they are worthy no problem, but for the most part the whole Organization needs an overhaul or we as fans are going to experience the same BS until that day comes.
- nyisles7

I'm telling you from the bottom down they are fine.

if you want to clean house then fine but Thompson and Cairns are far from the isles top 15 issues

No but it was still great
- Cptmjl

Cpt coaching obviously was "great" so it must have been injuries

They make the POs?
- nyisles7

you look at the standings? they were 11th in the league in points I believe. you looking for a scapegoat, fine... noel and I sit in that arena and watch those practices and games.. they are run well.

strome lead the ahl in scoring when he was called up..its up those guys to get them ready...they do.. it is then up to the nhl staff to develop them
- Dan Petriw

How many prospects have come out of the soundtigers and have done well? It's their job to develop them and prepare them for the NHL game. That's the whole point of a farm team. What's the soundtigers record since Thompson has taken over? How many prospects has Cairns developed that have excelled in the NHL? This is what defines both Cairns and Thompson's performance. That's literally Cairns job title.