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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
And yet the Flyers outscored the opposition over a six year period at 5 on 5 with him on the ice, in addition to all his PP points.
- Feanor


Just a quick question: Does his -13 - rating stem from 13+ SH and EN goals against? I know that "5v5" and "even strength" aren't the same thing, somehow.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 3:46 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Musings: Drouin Trade Rumor Doesn't Add Up, Quick Hits
- bmeltzer


For me, it's simple. While we are thin on LW and Drouin might be the better player, Konecny hasn't proven to be pre Madonna (I'm hoping the sang goes). Maybe it's possible Drouin turns out to be a points machine. I think Drouin's ability to be a good teammate is in question and I think he has a sense of self entitlement.

I would welcome John Drouin here but not at the expense of Travis Konecny.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:48 PM ET
For me, it's simple. While we are thin on LW and Drouin might be the better player, Konecny hasn't proven to be pre Madonna (I'm hoping the sang goes. Maybe it's possible Drouin turns out to be a points machine. I think Drouin's ability to be a good teammate is in question and I think he has a sense of self entitlement.

I would welcome John Drouin here but not at the expense of Travis Konecny.

- SuperSchennBros


Somebody gets it.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
If you're honest, not one of those kids mentioned in the Flyers prospect pool have Drouin's skill level C'mon now. Patrick or Nico do but the others, not from what I've seen. All the kids you mentioned the Flyers already have are closer to grinder types, Drouin is a scorer IMO
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
Looks like the LVGK signed our beloved Tomas Hyka...
- aightwebang17

VGK bro
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:59 PM ET
Remember that time Bill wrote a blog to dispel the never ending trade rumors for Drouin?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
VGK bro
- YuenglingJagr

what'd they do with the Las?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 4:05 PM ET
what'd they do with the Las?
- aightwebang17

overturned it after official review
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
Remember that time Bill wrote a blog to dispel the never ending trade rumors for Drouin?
- YuenglingJagr


good times
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 1 @ 4:18 PM ET
Remember that time Bill wrote a blog to dispel the never ending trade rumors for Drouin?
- YuenglingJagr




He'd have had better luck if he'd cast a spell of Dispel.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 1 @ 4:22 PM ET
My BPI when he was on the ice was tops in the neighborhood over that same time period.
- Scoob


He was particularly handsome at that age, so I wouldn't feel bad about that.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 1 @ 4:25 PM ET
He was particularly handsome at that age, so I wouldn't feel bad about that.


- Feanor

This is exactly who I expect Konecny to become. So I'm keeping him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 1 @ 4:33 PM ET
Remember that time Bill wrote a blog to dispel the never ending trade rumors for Drouin?
- YuenglingJagr

no

so lets do Couturier and Haag for Drouin
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 4:37 PM ET
He was particularly handsome at that age, so I wouldn't feel bad about that.
- Feanor


lol
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 1 @ 4:43 PM ET
If you're honest, not one of those kids mentioned in the Flyers prospect pool have Drouin's skill level C'mon now. Patrick or Nico do but the others, not from what I've seen. All the kids you mentioned the Flyers already have are closer to grinder types, Drouin is a scorer IMO
- twpguy



I'm not going to disagree but where are you catching the Swedish Elite League games to make that evaluation of Lindblom?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 4:58 PM ET
Somebody gets it.
- ClaudeFather


Still waiting for you to give me Hexy's phone number.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 5:09 PM ET
Still waiting for you to give me Hexy's phone number.
- jmatchett383


1 (800) 837-4966

Please be discrete.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 1 @ 5:16 PM ET
1 (800) 837-4966

Please be discrete.

- ClaudeFather

Is that Verizon customer service
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 1 @ 5:22 PM ET
A non entity?
- Mononoke



MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jun 1 @ 5:27 PM ET
For me, it's simple. While we are thin on LW and Drouin might be the better player, Konecny hasn't proven to be pre Madonna (I'm hoping the sang goes). Maybe it's possible Drouin turns out to be a points machine. I think Drouin's ability to be a good teammate is in question and I think he has a sense of self entitlement.

I would welcome John Drouin here but not at the expense of Travis Konecny.

- SuperSchennBros

Agreed! But both on a line together could be something!
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jun 1 @ 5:32 PM ET
And bill mentioned that pat Fallon and A.daige were basically busts,but the same could be said for Patrick or Nico, who knows? But Druin would look good in Philly imho,then trade Claude G.to montreal?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 7:03 PM ET
Noel Fogelman is just torturing Isles fans today.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
Would rather trade a player like Simmonds for Drouin than prospects.

Drouin seems like he'll be a solid top line guy, but I'd rather keep the quantity of prospects right now and downsize later when we have a better understanding of team need.

I'm also very much against helping Yzerman avoid cap hell like many teams have done the past few years (Flyers included)
MountainHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.21.2016

Jun 1 @ 7:22 PM ET
As much as I hate the Pens and Patriots, I've really come to respect the Machiavellian methods these franchises use to achieve greatness. Rules are bent and conventions are breached all in the name of winning.

It's a late-stage capitalism world folks. There is no participation trophy or Nobel prize for doing things the right way. The results are either achieved or failed. Do whatever possible. There should not be some misplaced pride in following unwritten rules in order to feel worthy.

Are these cups the Pens are winning somehow less valuable due to the methods they've employed? What about the Patriots super bowl wins? I don't think so. No one cares now and no one will in the future when their legacies are etched in stone.

- StepfordSam


I get what you're saying, but I value integrity higher than "winning" in any area of life. I wouldn't want the Eagles to have won a bunch of Super Bowls by cheating the way the Patriots did. And while I hope the Sixers get good again one day, I think they deserve the bad karma they're getting lately for the shameful "process" nonsense they've pulled the last 5 years. It's too bad that the bad guys usually "win" in this life we're all mucking around in. But when a good guy beats the odds, it's worth so much more, and it's real.
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