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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yeah, those Patriots have never had any PR issues related to their methods of winning.
- jmatchett383


And at the end of the day, none of them mattered.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'd settle for Konecny being a 283 points in 364 games "liability".

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...sort=points,goals,assists

- Feanor


The guy was a nightmare defensively
headyhedman77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Trivial matters like logic and salary cap do not come into trade proposals on this site.
- jmatchett383

Ahhh i always forget that
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
He is a fairly good ice hockey playing guy.
- jmatchett383


As compared to me
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
The guy was a nightmare defensively
- Scoob

Sultan of the Stick Infraction
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
The shutdown guy scores like Schenn over his entire career and not this one cherrypicked season for the worst team in a long time. Except he's better at literally everything else than Schenn too. Landeskog is one of the better 2-way/PWF wingers in the league, and he's still very young and this season is absolutely an aberration.

He'd be a fantastic fit on this team, but Lindblom plays a similar game to him and maybe he could end up a similar player one day. Wouldn't want to spend the assets but this notion is all baloney.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
Drouin was a September cut in his first NHL camp; an immediate red flag. Pro year two, he refuses an AHL assignment and demands a trade publicly-- and two months earlier, Walsh privately requested a trade on his behalf. If that doesn't scream out maturity/character issues (or least a need for a different agent), I don't know what does. Wasn't hard to show character in Halifax when there was very little adversity to face.
- bmeltzer


The agent certainly overplayed their hand, and that could have helped to perpetuate the idea of Drouin as an uppity misfit, but nothing about what still boils down to a single squabble over playing time screams irredeemable to me.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
The shutdown guy scores like Schenn over his entire career and not this one cherrypicked season for the worst team in a long time. Except he's better at literally everything else than Schenn too. Landeskog is one of the better 2-way/PWF wingers in the league, and he's still very young and this season is absolutely an aberration.

He'd be a fantastic fit on this team, but Lindblom plays a similar game to him and maybe he could end up a similar player one day. Wouldn't want to spend the assets but this notion is all baloney.

- Mononoke


He's a poor man's Toews. Thanks for clearing that up.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
He's a poor man's Toews. Thanks for clearing that up.
- ClaudeFather


They don't even play the same position so that's a spot on comparison
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
They don't even play the same position so that's a spot on comparison
- Mononoke


Why don't you just call Hextall and make the trade for him bud.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
Common Bill, I don't think those are fair comparisons.

It was known that Daigle was intoxicated by his own celebrity and Fat Balloon was allergic to exerting himself long before draft day.

I don't remember Drouin's character ever coming into question until the Cooper incident. Even then, what he did really wasn't that egregious. There have been plenty of 'character' players who weren't shy about using their leverage, many of whom are in the HOF despite hold outs, walk outs, trade demands, etc.

- Tomahawk


In the context that Bill was making the comparison it's not only fair but accurate. His point is that not all players with the potential to get to the top actually make it there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
And at the end of the day, none of them mattered.
- StepfordSam


Well it doesn't take the rings off of their fingers, but they didn't keep a squeaky clean image, of whatever term you used.

By the way, what are you driving at? Are you suggesting that the Flyers should have a major self-off and purposefully lose for 4-6 years?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:24 PM ET
Why don't you just call Hextall and make the trade for him bud.
- ClaudeFather


I clearly just said I wouldn't trade for him, pal. Hey, I'm not the one shoveling crap that he's a "defensive" low scoring player and we don't need another because we have Couturier, which is some logic. He averages 54 points per season over 6 years, and that's including this terrible year he just had, though your memory doesn't go back further. If he's a defensive low scoring player, what's Schenn? A non entity?
Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Jun 1 @ 3:24 PM ET
Billy! What's your take on Dove-McFalls? Is he really not worthy of a contract at this point? Does Hextall think we're that deep that he'd rather have the spot open for a better player? Would McFalls contract even count against the 50?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
Why don't you just call Hextall and make the trade for him bud.
- ClaudeFather


I will. Can you give me Hexy's number? I've got all kinds of great ideas.

#seethinghatebuzz
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
Billy! What's your take on Dove-McFalls? Is he really not worthy of a contract at this point? Does Hextall think we're that deep that he'd rather have the spot open for a better player? Would McFalls contract even count against the 50?
- Boyer83


Every contract signed counts against the 50 unless it slides.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
I will. Can you give me Hexy's number? I've got all kinds of great ideas.

#seethinghatebuzz

- jmatchett383


Just so you know, we want instant gratification. We're tired of this waiting for prospects to develop nonsense. Trade them all and get Drouin, Landeskog, etc in here!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:31 PM ET
I clearly just said I wouldn't trade for him, pal. Hey, I'm not the one shoveling crap that he's a "defensive" low scoring player and we don't need another because we have Couturier, which is some logic. He averages 54 points per season over 6 years, and that's including this terrible year he just had, though your memory doesn't go back further. If he's a defensive low scoring player, what's Schenn? A non entity?
- Mononoke


He's a power play stud brotha
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
Just so you know, we want instant gratification. We're tired of this waiting for prospects to develop nonsense. Trade them all and get Drouin, Landeskog, etc in hear!
- MJL


Don't worry, we will have Drouin, Landeskog, Evander Kane, Jay Bouwmeester, Dustin Byfuglien, and TJ Oshie to start next season.

I just hope you guys didn't get too attached to any of Ghost, Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Simmonds, Morin, Konecny, Sandstrom, Hart, Stolarz, or had hopes of using the #2 overall pick.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
He's a power play stud brotha
- ClaudeFather


Are you gonna give me Hexy's number or not?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
Looks like the LVGK signed our beloved Tomas Hyka...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:38 PM ET
Sultan of the Stick Infraction
- YuenglingJagr


Plus there's no way he could get away with his offside shenanigans nowadays.

Thanks Bettman
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
And as the Oilers and Sabres have shown us, it's a clear path to success.
- jmatchett383



For sure but the Pens got lucky to tank when the rewards were Mario, Crosby and Malkin. Edmonton finally got McDavid. timing is everything
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 1 @ 3:42 PM ET
The guy was a nightmare defensively
- Scoob


And yet the Flyers outscored the opposition over a six year period at 5 on 5 with him on the ice, in addition to all his PP points.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
And yet the Flyers outscored the opposition over a six year period at 5 on 5 with him on the ice, in addition to all his PP points.
- Feanor


My BPI when he was on the ice was tops in the neighborhood over that same time period.
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