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Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jun 1 @ 2:14 PM ET
Konecny is gonna be our next Briere

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 1 @ 2:15 PM ET
Pat Falloon also had potential to be a team's top forward. So did Alex Daigle.
- bmeltzer


Common Bill, I don't think those are fair comparisons.

It was known that Daigle was intoxicated by his own celebrity and Fat Balloon was allergic to exerting himself long before draft day.

I don't remember Drouin's character ever coming into question until the Cooper incident. Even then, what he did really wasn't that egregious. There have been plenty of 'character' players who weren't shy about using their leverage, many of whom are in the HOF despite hold outs, walk outs, trade demands, etc.
countreeman28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.10.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
Surely Murray and Guentzel will be overwhelmed by catfish, awful country singers, and redneck hillbillies in Smashville.

Preds in 6.

- PLindbergh31


You are literally the most vulgar and offensive person. It must be exhausting to feel this way every single day. #hugs4u

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:18 PM ET
Konecny is gonna be our next Briere
- Coburns_Nose


A regular season liability who scores in the playoffs?
headyhedman77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 1 @ 2:19 PM ET
If we get Nolan, I'd prefer we trade for Drouin. If we get Nico, I'd prefer we trade for Landeskog. Regardless, Hagg, Filp and Vorobyov will get either done, so quit stressing.
- arichardson22

Yeah the lightning arent doing that deal ever...
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 1 @ 2:20 PM ET
Yeah the lightning arent doing that deal ever...
- headyhedman77


If that deal can get Ovi then why can't it get Drouin?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'll take Famous Tankers for $200, Alex.
- Scoob


Right. And you can't tell me that a deal wasn't brokered between the league and Lemieux to land Crosby. Just like the '85 NBA draft...rigged.

This is not an endorsment for the Flyers to tank at this moment in time. Nor is it a statement that it is a guarantee for success.

What I am saying is this, any and all methods should be deployed by a team in order to win. For the Oilers and Sabres, it was the right move for those franchises during those particular times to tank. Absolutely without a doubt it was their best chance to put themselves in a position to win a cup.

There are no moral victories. Bite, scratch, claw, or flop your way there. Broker deals. Bend rules. Flout conventions. All the while maintaining a squeaky clean public appearance.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
I still wouldn't trade a 2nd round pick or Hagg for Drouin. Gotta stick to your principles.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
I don't think he is. Colorado have no cap issues, so there's no reason for them trade their 24 year old captain at a discount.
- Feanor

Has had declining offensive number for three years now I believe and they have hit rock bottom. Don't see how hey get full value for him. But you are right, there is no need to trade him and if I were their GM I wouldn't!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
I still wouldn't trade a 2nd round pick or Hagg for Drouin. Gotta stick to your principles.
- Mononoke

Really? Dang, I like your moxie!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
Common Bill, I don't think those are fair comparisons.

It was known that Daigle was intoxicated by his own celebrity and Fat Balloon was allergic to exerting himself long before draft day.

I don't remember Drouin's character ever coming into question until the Cooper incident. Even then, what he did really wasn't that egregious. There have been plenty of 'character' players who weren't shy about using their leverage, many of whom are in the HOF despite hold outs, walk outs, trade demands, etc.

- Tomahawk


Drouin was a September cut in his first NHL camp; an immediate red flag. Pro year two, he refuses an AHL assignment and demands a trade publicly-- and two months earlier, Walsh privately requested a trade on his behalf. If that doesn't scream out maturity/character issues (or least a need for a different agent), I don't know what does. Wasn't hard to show character in Halifax when there was very little adversity to face.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 2:33 PM ET
Right. And you can't tell me that a deal wasn't brokered between the league and Lemieux to land Crosby. Just like the '85 NBA draft...rigged.

This is not an endorsment for the Flyers to tank at this moment in time. Nor is it a statement that it is a guarantee for success.

What I am saying is this, any and all methods should be deployed by a team in order to win. For the Oilers and Sabres, it was the right move for those franchises during those particular times to tank. Absolutely without a doubt it was their best chance to put themselves in a position to win a cup.

There are no moral victories. Bite, scratch, claw, or flop your way there. Broker deals. Bend rules. Flout conventions. All the while maintaining a squeaky clean public appearance.

- StepfordSam


Yeah, those Patriots have never had any PR issues related to their methods of winning.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
Common Bill, I don't think those are fair comparisons.

It was known that Daigle was intoxicated by his own celebrity and Fat Balloon was allergic to exerting himself long before draft day.

I don't remember Drouin's character ever coming into question until the Cooper incident. Even then, what he did really wasn't that egregious. There have been plenty of 'character' players who weren't shy about using their leverage, many of whom are in the HOF despite hold outs, walk outs, trade demands, etc.

- Tomahawk


I actually found him to be an obnoxious, whining, entitled cry baby during limited viewing of him at the WJC in 2014.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
Yeah, those Patriots have never had any PR issues related to their methods of winning.
- jmatchett383



Nope and they only take members of the Upright Citizens Brigade... no jailbirds on that squ... oh... wait... ummm... yeah.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:40 PM ET
Flyers in on dove-McFalls

Let's see if this can get done...

- Just5

We already have Couturier. Aren't you reading back?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
Why in the world does anyone want Landeskog?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
Why in the world does anyone want Landeskog?
- hereticpride

Dude, we totally don't got one of those...

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
A regular season liability who scores in the playoffs?
- Scoob


I'd settle for Konecny being a 283 points in 364 games "liability".

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...sort=points,goals,assists
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 1 @ 2:54 PM ET
You are literally the most vulgar and offensive person. It must be exhausting to feel this way every single day.
- countreeman28


coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
Why in the world does anyone want Landeskog?
- hereticpride

https://youtu.be/xscc0W2lbVI
https://youtu.be/ykx4nlSq-78
headyhedman77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
If that deal can get Ovi then why can't it get Drouin?
- arichardson22

a) I dont believe that would get Ovi
b) Why in the world would we trade to get Filp back after we just got him off our books... please rationalize that to me
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
Why in the world does anyone want Landeskog?
- hereticpride


He is a fairly good ice hockey playing guy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
vi
b) Why in the world would we trade to get Filp back after we just got him off our books... please rationalize that to me

- headyhedman77


Trivial matters like logic and salary cap do not come into trade proposals on this site.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
The spelling savant is back at it.

And Landeskog is a winger.

- Feanor


Center, Winger, the "Shutdown Guy" was what I was getting at. Just saying I don't think of him that highly and I'm not a fan of when people combat low point totals with "he's solid defensively".
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
Konecny looks to be quite the player.
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