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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Bachman is a capable backup imo, if we are going to suck either way why even bother getting another goalie?

This is where I am at right now

- Crazybagoham


I feel that Bachman is a great option. That goes hand in hand with not signing Miller. I think you have to be cap-conscious always, despite knowing you are going to suck next year. The more space you have as a terrible team, the better (taking on bad 1 year contracts for assets much like ARI has done *datysuk and Chychrun*, or CAR has done *TT and Bickell*). I see a guy like Condon being an excellent option. Sign him on a trial 1 year contract for 2 mill, tell him to compete for the number 1 job, and see how him and Markstrom pan out. Why pay Miller 4-5 mill a year for 1 year to "Push" Markstrom?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:08 PM ET
Bachman is a capable backup imo, if we are going to suck either way why even bother getting another goalie?

This is where I am at right now

- Crazybagoham



We don't need to use Bachman . We don't want to finish 29 th . Bring back Miller
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
We don't need to use Bachman . We don't want to finish 29 th . Bring back Miller
- VANTEL


Bachman playing with Demko in Utica should be a priority. He has done a ton for his development (or so Demko has said). I wouldn't be opposed to using Bachman as a backup though, but him being with Demko certainly makes the most sense.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
if you think goaliending was this teams problem, you didn't watch one game. Miller was fantastic, despite his number/ terrible d men in front of him.

I really don't agree, resign Miller to a 1 year deal, he's a better goalie than Markstrom right now (hopefully after Christmas it will change), the age of whatever goalie we pick up (if any) is irrelevant, as we will probably only use that goalie for 2 season MAX, people seem to forget Demko will probably be going for the starter position in the next few years

- Crazybagoham

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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
I feel that Bachman is a great option. That goes hand in hand with not signing Miller. I think you have to be cap-conscious always, despite knowing you are going to suck next year. The more space you have as a terrible team, the better (taking on bad 1 year contracts for assets much like ARI has done *datysuk and Chychrun*, or CAR has done *TT and Bickell*). I see a guy like Condon being an excellent option. Sign him on a trial 1 year contract for 2 mill, tell him to compete for the number 1 job, and see how him and Markstrom pan out. Why pay Miller 4-5 mill a year for 1 year to "Push" Markstrom?
- Codes1087

Bachman is an awful option. He has no business playing in the NHL. He is an average AHL goaltender. Let's aim a little higher Codes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
Bachman playing with Demko in Utica should be a priority. He has done a ton for his development (or so Demko has said). I wouldn't be opposed to using Bachman as a backup though, but him being with Demko certainly makes the most sense.
- Codes1087



Isn't that Cloutiers job?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
Isn't that Cloutiers job?
- VANTEL


I have yet to hear high praise anywhere of Cloutiers job as goalie coach lol
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
Bachman is an awful option. He has no business playing in the NHL. He is an average AHL goaltender. Let's aim a little higher Codes.
- CanuckDon



I honestly would bring in Bernier and let him and Markstrom battle for the starts. Whomever is better keep and the other one goes when Demko ready.

Bernier had a rough playoff but his regular season was not bad and he could only get better
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Bachman is an awful option. He has no business playing in the NHL. He is an average AHL goaltender. Let's aim a little higher Codes.
- CanuckDon


If we are going into next season with the mentality that we will be a bottom 5 team, I just don't want to tie up valuable cap space in Miller when we could have a better option for cheaper. Teams in the last few seasons have really utilized their cap space to their advantage, sometimes being able to acquire decent players/picks/prospects. I strictly wanting other options because of this. I am also not opposed to giving younger players, or other players opportunities. Look at Dubynyk in Minnesota. No one would have thought that the Wild would betting a decent goalie after EDM had him. I just like the idea of exploring other options (while saving money).
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:26 PM ET
What the hell is Convfefe
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
What the hell is Convfefe
- VANTEL


I am assuming he meant to spell "Coverage"
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
lol you are too far behind our conversation to jump in now. This dates back to yesterday, or maybe even the day before. It started out with Don saying that PIT D is worse than ours, and me arguing that I feel that is a false statement. We are on the topic of goalies because of the current status of Jim Benning openly saying he wants Miller back, when I think the majority of us (even though a 1 year deal wouldn't be the end of the world) don't want Miller back. I am just stating points that support that.
- Codes1087


very true, Pittsburgh might not have some big names on the back end but they really are working hard and using their systems well so I give the edge to Pitt, Murray has been really good too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
I am assuming he meant to spell "Coverage"
- Codes1087

Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
I feel that Bachman is a great option. That goes hand in hand with not signing Miller. I think you have to be cap-conscious always, despite knowing you are going to suck next year. The more space you have as a terrible team, the better (taking on bad 1 year contracts for assets much like ARI has done *datysuk and Chychrun*, or CAR has done *TT and Bickell*). I see a guy like Condon being an excellent option. Sign him on a trial 1 year contract for 2 mill, tell him to compete for the number 1 job, and see how him and Markstrom pan out. Why pay Miller 4-5 mill a year for 1 year to "Push" Markstrom?
- Codes1087


not a huge fan of Condon, but he's solid enough. He seems to do okay with any situation (trades/playing backup etc.) which I like in a player.

If we are going the 1 year route, I like Halak, personally
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 1 @ 3:31 PM ET
Bachman is an awful option. He has no business playing in the NHL. He is an average AHL goaltender. Let's aim a little higher Codes.
- CanuckDon


do you have a reason for this? Or is it just because he plays in the AHL? I think he's done exactly whats asked of him on nearly every callup
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
not a huge fan of Condon, but he's solid enough. He seems to do okay with any situation (trades/playing backup etc.) which I like in a player.

If we are going the 1 year route, I like Halak, personally

- Crazybagoham



It is probably a done deal with a stupid amount . It will be announced after expansion draft
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
More on the goalie situation in the new blog, plus Guddy goes to Italy and it's now "Dr. Sedin," thankyouverymuch.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...less-of-partner/194/85515
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 1 @ 3:36 PM ET
More on the goalie situation in the new blog, plus Guddy goes to Italy and it's now "Dr. Sedin," thankyouverymuch.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...less-of-partner/194/85515

- Carol Schram



Where do they practice ? I will sue them for malpractice and run them back to Sweden
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 1 @ 4:39 PM ET
Circle the patch with your urine the next time.
- Marwood


Only radish i'm bummed about.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 1 @ 7:58 PM ET
Miller really helped keep the team out of the basement the last couple of seasons.
- Marwood

I'm a Miller guy. If we could off-load Marky for another 2nd rounder and some how resign Miller for Marky money I call that good business.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 1 @ 8:02 PM ET
I'm a Miller guy. If we could off-load Marky for another 2nd rounder and some how resign Miller for Marky money I call that good business.
- thundachunk

No (frank)ing way you get a 2nd rounder for Markstrom
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 1 @ 8:24 PM ET
No (frank)ing way you get a 2nd rounder for Markstrom
- Nucker101

Racist.
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