The only issue I have with VDV is what he brings to table.....I think they can upgrade the position. As far as the non scratching, that's the coaches prerogative. Considering they had a disappointing year I think everyone should look in the mirror and ask themselves what they can change or do better....including the coach.
- landros 2

My only issue with with Chris Vandevelde is, he's not a good hockey player.

They can only hand out 50 NHL contracts (includes slide players and AHL players). Years ago, they didn't have the same amount of higher-end prospects so they could throw them at more role player types. Now, they have to be a bit more pickier.

He projects as an NHL 3rd/4th liner with limited offensive upside. The best option would be to offer him an AHL contract with a chance to transfer it to an NHL one a la VandeVelde.
- jmatchett383

I don't think they are near the 50 limit at all. not 100% sure but fairly certain.

if he has any nhl upside then you sign him. worry about the contract thing later. I am sure next year they have several dropping off petterson goulbourne, few others possibly.

I don't care either way. if they have evaluated him and don't think he has a future then that's ok. IMO organizational depth is not why he will or wont be signed is all I am saying.

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- Streit2ThePoint

I knew you weren't posting again

I don't think they are near the 50 limit at all. not 100% sure but fairly certain.

if he has any nhl upside then you sign him. worry about the contract thing later. I am sure next year they have several dropping off petterson goulbourne, few others possibly.

I don't care either way. if they have evaluated him and don't think he has a future then that's ok. IMO organizational depth is not why he will or wont be signed is all I am saying.
- rinaldo

VDV is like that old rocking chair your grandma used to own. You inherited it after she passed, but it never really fit in to your room decor and you didn't want to put it away or get rid of it because it holds sentimental value.

I don't think they are near the 50 limit at all. not 100% sure but fairly certain.

if he has any nhl upside then you sign him. worry about the contract thing later. I am sure next year they have several dropping off petterson goulbourne, few others possibly.

I don't care either way. if they have evaluated him and don't think he has a future then that's ok. IMO organizational depth is not why he will or wont be signed is all I am saying.
- rinaldo

cap friendly says 33/50 which sounds implausibly low even by off-season standards.

This is my official apology for bringing up VDV....it was a joke...yes a poor joke. In response to Bigge and his looking forward to a young skilled line of the future. again my apologies. Thank god the future of this team appears to be leading away from the Vinny, VDV and Macdonald debates....

This is my official apology for bringing up VDV....it was a joke...yes a poor joke. In response to Bigge and his looking forward to a young skilled line of the future. again my apologies. Thank god the future of this team appears to be leading away from the Vinny, VDV and Macdonald debates....
- landros 2

Some people just want to see the world burn.

Geez saying VDV is similar to the 3 Stooges saying Niagara Falls! Slowly I turn...

Some people just want to see the world burn.
- MBFlyerfan

I'll settle for this message board.

There are still 14 forwards even if they let Weal walk, lose Raffl to Vegas, waive Leier, and put Vecchione in the AHL.

1. Giroux - $8.275m (5 years)
2. Voracek - $8.25m (7 years)
3. Schenn - $ 5.125m (3 years)
4. Filppula - $5m (1 year)
5. Couturier - $4.33m (5 years)
6. Simmonds - $3.975m (2 years)
7. Read - $3.625m (1 year)
8. Weise - $2.35m (3 years)
9. Raffl - $2.35m (2 years)
10. Bellemare - $1.45m (2 years)
11. Weal - UFA
12. Patrick/Hischier - $925K (3 year ELC)
13. Lindblom - $925K (3 year ELC)
14. Konecny - $894K (2 years left on ELC)
15. Vecchione - RFA
16. Cousins - RFA
17. Laughton - RFA
18. Leier -RFA

There are still 14 forwards even if they let Weal walk, lose Raffl to Vegas, waive Leier, and put Vecchione in the AHL.

1. Giroux - $8.275m (5 years)
2. Voracek - $8.25m (7 years)
3. Schenn - $ 5.125m (3 years)
4. Filppula - $5m (1 year)
5. Couturier - $4.33m (5 years)
6. Simmonds - $3.975m (2 years)
7. Read - $3.625m (1 year)
8. Weise - $2.35m (3 years)
9. Raffl - $2.35m (2 years)
10. Bellemare - $1.45m (2 years)
11. Weal - UFA
12. Patrick/Hischier - $925K (3 year ELC)
13. Lindblom - $925K (3 year ELC)
14. Konecny - $894K (2 years left on ELC)
15. Vecchione - RFA
16. Cousins - RFA
17. Laughton - RFA
18. Leier -RFA
- Feanor

something has to give.....and that's not even inckluding whom ever gets drafted 2nd....Chances are he may be good enough right from the get go to crack the line up.

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Dove-McFalls is more worthy of an ELC than Pettersson or Goulbourne were, but unfortunately for him the Flyers are getting deep at forward prospects now.

Nico/Nolan and Lindblom will sign an ELC this summer, and Kase might also.

In 18-19 Rubtsov, Laberge, and Bunnaman will be 20 and ready to go pro. Allison, Marody and Laczyznski might also be ready to leave college depending on their development.

And the Flyers will have to make a decision by 6/1/18 on Twarynski and Salinitri.
- Feanor

Vorobyov signed too.

something has to give.....and that's not even inckluding whom ever gets drafted 2nd....Chances are he may be good enough right from the get go to crack the line up.
- landros 2

...it did include #2 at #12

Vorobyov signed too.
- nastyflyergirl

Hexy got that backdoor channel set up with the Russians.

Hexy got that backdoor channel set up with the Russians.
- Feanor

Hexy got that backdoor channel set up with the Russians.
- Feanor

Nothing to see here people. Move along.

Geez saying VDV is similar to the 3 Stooges saying Niagara Falls! Slowly I turn...
- Konalover

STEP BY STEP
INCH BY INCH

There are still 14 forwards even if they let Weal walk, lose Raffl to Vegas, waive Leier, and put Vecchione in the AHL.

1. Giroux - $8.275m (5 years)
2. Voracek - $8.25m (7 years)
3. Schenn - $ 5.125m (3 years)
4. Filppula - $5m (1 year)
5. Couturier - $4.33m (5 years)
6. Simmonds - $3.975m (2 years)
7. Read - $3.625m (1 year)
8. Weise - $2.35m (3 years)
9. Raffl - $2.35m (2 years)
10. Bellemare - $1.45m (2 years)
11. Weal - UFA
12. Patrick/Hischier - $925K (3 year ELC)
13. Lindblom - $925K (3 year ELC)
14. Konecny - $894K (2 years left on ELC)
15. Vecchione - RFA
16. Cousins - RFA
17. Laughton - RFA
18. Leier -RFA
- Feanor

Love the competition. I expect one of the 18 to be Vegas bound. 4 to ahl/juniors (#2). Cousins Leir read Laughton are not exactly must have on roster players at this point. Read could get bought out or sent to ahl as the vet / call up guy. This is an unnecessary worry. Let the competition roll out we have plenty of cap and nobody were waiving for ahl would be heart breaking to lose.

cap friendly says 33/50 which sounds implausibly low even by off-season standards.
- Doc_Sarcasm

If you assume they resign Vecchione, Weal, and Cousins, that gives them 14 NHL forwards from last season.
Assuming they keep all of their D minus MDZ/Schultz, that gives them 5 full-time D from last season.
Assuming they resign Stolarz, that gives them 4 G.
They have 19 skaters that are non-NHL regulars, and they will probably resign Laughton and Leier.
That gives them 44. Add Lindblom, #2, and a backup/starter goalie (either for the NHL or AHL) and you're at 47. You'll lose one for expansion, so that's 46. They'll have to add at least one AHL or NHL defensemen to replace either MDZ/Schultz or Morin/Hagg/Sanheim so that's 47-48. That leaves 2-3 contract slots for Dove-McFalls, and I'm trying to use the bare minimum to fill out the AHL roster. I'd give him an AHL contract and let him work towards an NHL one.

They can only hand out 50 NHL contracts (includes slide players and AHL players). Years ago, they didn't have the same amount of higher-end prospects so they could throw them at more role player types. Now, they have to be a bit more pickier.

He projects as an NHL 3rd/4th liner with limited offensive upside. The best option would be to offer him an AHL contract with a chance to transfer it to an NHL one a la VandeVelde.
- jmatchett383

the 50 doesn't include the slide players

the 50 doesn't include the slide players
- nastyflyergirl

Are you positive? If you're right, then I apologize, but I thought it did. I know it doesn't include unsigned CHL players, but I thought it counted once they signed their ELC.

But I still think an AHL contract is the way to go.

cap friendly says 33/50 which sounds implausibly low even by off-season standards.
- Doc_Sarcasm

the 33 doesn't count all of the RFA's they need to sign or guys like Lindblom and Weal

Anyone else suspect that we haven't heard of a VdV extension yet because the organization is waiting to see what will happen with Jordan Weal?

Hopefully once that jam up gets resolved things will start to happen. I'd be fine with it.

Are you positive? If you're right, then I apologize, but I thought it did. I know it doesn't include unsigned CHL players, but I thought it counted once they signed their ELC.

But I still think an AHL contract is the way to go.
- jmatchett383

I'm positive.

guys signed:
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare
Sean Couturier
Valtteri Filppula
Claude Giroux
Radko Gudas
Travis Konecny
Andrew MacDonald
Brandon Manning
Michal Neuvirth
Ivan Provorov
Michael Raffl
Matt Read
Braden Schenn
Wayne Simmonds
Jakub Voracek
Dale Weise
Nicolas Aube-Kubel
Cole Bardreau
TJ Brennan
Greg Carey
Radel Fazleev
Mark Friedman
Tyrell Goulbourne
Robert Hagg
Danick Martel
Colin McDonald
Samuel Morin
Philippe Myers
Will O'Neill
Travis Sanheim
Mikhail Vorobyov
Reece Willcox

RFAs
Nick Cousins
Shayne Gostisbehere
Scott Laughton
Taylor Leier
Anthony Stolarz
Michael Vecchione
Alex Lyon

then you have another goalie, Weal, Lindblom and #2 if he makes the team.


Contracts that can slide
Pascal Laberge
Connor Bunnaman
German Rubtsov
Carter Hart