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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
That would be a solid deal, but would Montreal part with their captain? Maybe.

Besides Pacioretty, Galchenyuk Shaw and Gallagher are the only potential players I could see coming this way.

- DarthKane


I don't know why the Habs would trade their 30+ goal scoring wing Captain for a 20+ goal scoring C that makes about the same amount of money.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't know why the Habs would trade their 30+ goal scoring wing Captain for a 20+ goal scoring C that makes about the same amount of money.
- BINGO!


Anything is possible. Both teams need a shake up.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
I haven't seen that anywhere. And I'm not either. I'm just being realistic about their likelihood of contributing meaningfully in the NHL this year.
- John Jaeckel


JJ, this comment wasn't really directed at you, but more the comments people make about this player not having size to be an NHL player or that this guy won't make it because he isn't scoring enough in junior. Sometimes it is a comment people make like "the hawks prospect pool is depleted or has no talented players"

Some fantastic NHL players have been written off or taken very unusual routes to the league, but it only matters what they do when they hit the ice. I just think some people get too high and some get too low. I think more of us fans just need to enjoy the ride and not get too hung up on a team that is ultimately here for our entertainment.

I agree with you that it is unlikely that any of the new rookies make meaningful NHL contributions in the next season.
chitownfan92
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
Eklund has Anisimov headed to the Habs.
I wonder who we will get back in Return, let the discussion begin

Edit :
A big thank you for all that have served.

- BGKarras


Nathan Beaulieu rights and/or Al Montoya. You may have to throw in Hammer or a draft pick to get it done. Especially if Rutta is signed and creates a logjam at RD. Montoya eliminates the backup goaltender issue and he only costs a hair above 1mil. The move however creates an issue at 2C and maybe we can get Bonino or Hanzal to sign with us at (or around) 4mil.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
Anything is possible. Both teams need a shake up.
- z1990z


Both teams need to be completely restructured.

That move might give the Hawks some better longevity and a shot at one more cup run, but it really doesn't do much for the Habs.
RollingPuck
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.30.2017

May 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
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- RaleighHawk


walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
That would be a solid deal, but would Montreal part with their captain? Maybe.

Besides Pacioretty, Galchenyuk Shaw and Gallagher are the only potential players I could see coming this way.

- DarthKane



EK: The Montreal Canadiens are now the front runner for Anisimov...I am NOT hearing Galchenyuk will be traded for Anisimov...so there are definitely other teams involved...
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
EK: The Montreal Canadiens are now the front runner for Anisimov...I am NOT hearing Galchenyuk will be traded for Anisimov...so there are definitely other teams involved...
- walleyeb1



JJ,

Any info regarding the Hawks shopping AA?
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

May 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
One year gets him to UFA at a cost the Hawks could absorb.

More than one year - eating into Kempny's UFA years - and the player would have wanted MORE than the Hawks could absorb.

- StLBravesFan


I guess that's the point . This seems like a bad deal for the Hawks who had all the leverage. Again

Should have been able to get a 2 yr deal at a minimum
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
I guess that's the point . This seems like a bad deal for the Hawks who had all the leverage. Again

Should have been able to get a 2 yr deal at a minimum

- Yikes726



A better guess is this and that Kempny wants to see where he ends up in the line up. If he gets yo-yo'd again he can leave after this year. Would not blame him. Its time for the youth movement on D.
Yikes726
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.22.2013

May 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
A better guess is this and that Kempny wants to see where he ends up in the line up. If he gets yo-yo'd again he can leave after this year. Would not blame him. Its time for the youth movement on D.
- z1990z


Totally agree here. I'm sure Kempny only wanted a 1 year deal. Why would the Hawks, especially at that hit. At those dollars Hawks should have gotten 2 years.
Something closer to the minimum for only 1 year...
I think Stan gives away to much , to often
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
In this case, if it's being reported on Twitter, who cares?

I've seen pieces on these players from Dietz and Powers, not sure what other columnists are saying, but neither one of those guys have annointed these players anything more than they are...potentially promising prospects.

- HawkintheD


I follow over 500 people on Twitter. You're right, no one cares. But if you're really saying no one is possibly overhyping DeBrincat right now, you perhaps didn't learn much during "Teuvo Time"
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
JJ, this comment wasn't really directed at you, but more the comments people make about this player not having size to be an NHL player or that this guy won't make it because he isn't scoring enough in junior. Sometimes it is a comment people make like "the hawks prospect pool is depleted or has no talented players"

Some fantastic NHL players have been written off or taken very unusual routes to the league, but it only matters what they do when they hit the ice. I just think some people get too high and some get too low. I think more of us fans just need to enjoy the ride and not get too hung up on a team that is ultimately here for our entertainment.

I agree with you that it is unlikely that any of the new rookies make meaningful NHL contributions in the next season.

- breadbag


Agreed
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
Totally agree here. I'm sure Kempny only wanted a 1 year deal. Why would the Hawks, especially at that hit. At those dollars Hawks should have gotten 2 years.
Something closer to the minimum for only 1 year...
I think Stan gives away to much , to often

- Yikes726



I wouldn't worry about Kempny's new contract, it's pretty much a low risk or even now risk move.

$900,000 for one year is quite reasonable. I highly doubt he would have signed for close to the minimum ($625,000 I believe). I can see the argument that some of Stan's contracts were too rich or too long, but not this one.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

May 29 @ 2:36 PM ET


NHL hockey players are considerably bigger, faster, better, meaner than junior players. And that leaves aside the fact that stylistically and in terms of the position/role he will pay in the NHL, DeBrincat is not really the "solution" to what ails the Hawks right now. Whose ice time is he going to take?

Kane's? Panik's? Hossa's? So let's get real.


- John Jaeckel


DeBrincat shoots right but he plays on the left side for Erie so most likely he would play LW next season - be it in Rockford or for the Hawks
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
Looks like he knows how to get to the right spot!

http://ontariohockeyleagu.../alex-debrincats-65-goals
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

May 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
Looks like he knows how to get to the right spot!

http://ontariohockeyleagu.../alex-debrincats-65-goals

- walleyeb1


Kid gets the puck on net in the blink of an eye.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
DeBrincat shoots right but he plays on the left side for Erie so most likely he would play LW next season - be it in Rockford or for the Hawks
- EbonyRaptor


Good. Need as many LW prospects as we can get.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Good. Need as many LW prospects as we can get.
- z1990z



Knott plays LW too, but I would guess he's a couple years away from the show.
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

May 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
AA could theoretically take a bit of the load off Toews along the wall and around the net.

Worth a look for sure
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

May 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
Looks like he knows how to get to the right spot!

http://ontariohockeyleagu.../alex-debrincats-65-goals

- walleyeb1


I'll say this...Debrincat definitely gets in between the circles to do his work.

Hawks had few going there this past postseason
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

May 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
Knott plays LW too, but I would guess he's a couple years away from the show.
- DarthKane



Isnt Tyle Motte a natural LW too?
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

May 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
Isnt Tyle Motte a natural LW too?
- z1990z


Motte seems to have a good bottom six pro-style game. Hopefully he'll be ready for the show within the year
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 29 @ 3:54 PM ET
I don't think anyone here believes Debrincat or Knott are the saviors of the team because they had good OHL seasons and a solid Memorial Cup showing. I think people are excited to see the Hawks prospects perform well and look forward to what these guys do in camp.

The realistic expectation (which I believe is shared by most) is that Debrincat and Knott will spend at least a season or two in Rockford, which isn't a bad thing.


But I agree with you that change is coming and there will be new faces on the team next season. It's just very unlikely it will be any of the guys playing junior or college hockey last season.

- DarthKane


This,

I'm not sure who all those are that are hyping either one of them as a savior.

I just don't see it, not here at least.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

May 29 @ 3:58 PM ET
Who said "anyone here"? I didn't. Think I mentioned Twitter actually.

Agreed. Let 'em marinate for a season or two in Rockford.

Not sure where we're disagreeing actually.

- John Jaeckel


Ah, Twitter, sorry bout that.

Don't follow you on twitter, sorry, did for about a month. Its more than hockey in that forum.

Hard for me to believe anyone who knows anything really thinks they are saviors. Nothing wrong with having promising prospects though, better than the alternative.
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