Kane is your best offensive asset.

Look at his numbers pre and post Panarin arrival. This myth about "kane playing with anyone" is asinine. He can, but he wont' produce at the elite level that he has been the last 2 years.

Pac and Panarin are both signed for 2 years and Panarin is also 3 years younger....

What is Pac going to want in 2 years after years of netting 30+? What caliber UFA are you getting for 1.5?
- SteveRain

Kane has been consistently around a PPG except for 2012 where he was below, and 2015 where he was above. Kane can play with plenty of people that don't have to be Panarin, but then how do you replace the 80 points per year Panarin puts up?

Unless we trade him before the draft.
- walleyeb1

Gotcha. Thanks.

Kane has been consistently around a PPG except for 2012 where he was below, and 2015 where he was above. Kane can play with plenty of people that don't have to be Panarin, but then how do you replace the 80 points per year Panarin puts up?
- JRoenick97

I respect Fatty and I get what he is saying, but that to me is just a lateral move.....Paciorrety and Panarin are 1 in the same......I'd take panarin based on age and the fact he probably hasn't reached his NHL potential yet.....Pac probably so.....

I'd trade AA and slide 8 into the pivot before dumping 72........I get people are down after his lack of playoff or his production post contact, but many guys bomb right after signing a big deal......Toews, Kopitar, etc.

I really wonder if the TVR hook also signals Campbell is coming back on the cheap. 2,4,7,51.....kepmny, frosling, and then old man Rozsival assuming he can walk.

Wonder what prospect is also going back to Las Vegas with Kruger......

They could move Panarin for Patches straight up and I don't think that would make anyone upset. It would also save 1.5 mildo in cap space. And they can still have two NHL centers and put who ever on AA's left.
- fattybeef

Panarin & AA for Patch and Danault (and ???? and cap space, blessed cap space.)

Hopefully we see a Rutta signing soon

I really wonder if the TVR hook also signals Campbell is coming back on the cheap. 2,4,7,51.....kepmny, frosling, and then old man Rozsival assuming he can walk.

Wonder what prospect is also going back to Las Vegas with Kruger......
- SteveRain

Roz will either be in the AHL or On LTIR, the Roz signing was only so they have leverage against Vegas. If they did not have Roz signed then they would have to expose TVR. Now they can trade TVR to another team and still be EXP draft compliant. That is how we are able to make them Trade for Kruger to get TVR.

I really wonder if the TVR hook also signals Campbell is coming back on the cheap. 2,4,7,51.....kepmny, frosling, and then old man Rozsival assuming he can walk.

Wonder what prospect is also going back to Las Vegas with Kruger......
- SteveRain

Just say no to soupy. The guy is done.

Props to Jen B as she moves on from HockeyBuzz. Always well written Habs blogs.

https://www.yahoo.com/spo...trike-deal-165455521.html

If the cap is flat and Vegas takes Kruger then the Hawks are still around $1.5 over. Other contract needs to go and Panarin wouldn't be my first choice (or second or third) but if there is a solid hockey deal then why not consider it?
- DarthKane

And there is a nice way to get help via Las Vegas: offer them the right combo of player prospect and draft pick and have them poach the back up goalie you want, the nice Cap contracted forward or even high price veteran you want by way of trade, if you actually trade a big contract.

Everyday I read another article about how this team or even have team must trade this guy, another must trade this guy, or lose them. There are a few teams with few draft picks and can't afford the luxury of sending bonus items to Las Vegas for special considerations....Las Vegas doesnt have to play nice and soften demands It might be in their best interest to trade more than few of the players that they draft b/c they can't all be kept and might be loss if they try and send them to the minors, as their plan is two fold: get some accomplished regulars so they are can win some games but moreover stock their minor pro system with older promising kids and get more picks to get more chances for later additions in those selected guys.

https://www.yahoo.com/spo...trike-deal-165455521.html
- EnzoD

his article is pretty flawed. There are probably no (or almost no) teams that TVR would be the 3rd D man held, there are lots of teams that are going to lose a really good young player/prospect so if hawks trade TVR for a 3rd/4th, Either the other team now gets to keep there other really god prospect if they select TVR or the get a cheap soon to be RFA RD for a 3rd/4th round pick.

his article is pretty flawed. There are probably no (or almost no) teams that TVR would be the 3rd D man held, there are lots of teams that are going to lose a really good young player/prospect so if hawks trade TVR for a 3rd/4th, Either the other team now gets to keep there other really god prospect if they select TVR or the get a cheap soon to be RFA RD for a 3rd/4th round pick.
- kmw4631

one interesting thing is I don't think any other trades have to be announced until after the EXP exposure is set by each team, So teams are not sure if Vegas or the hawks got a deal done or not. makes more intrigue.

Kane is your best offensive asset.

Look at his numbers pre and post Panarin arrival. This myth about "kane playing with anyone" is asinine. He can, but he wont' produce at the elite level that he has been the last 2 years.

Pac and Panarin are both signed for 2 years and Panarin is also 3 years younger....

What is Pac going to want in 2 years after years of netting 30+? What caliber UFA are you getting for 1.5?
- SteveRain

Patrick Kane PPG:
.88 (toews)
.88 (Toews)
1.07 (Toews) arguably the best team post lockout
1.00 (toews \ Random)
.80 (Played center and wrist surgery pre season)
1.17 (Random \ Zeus) winning team fun to watch
1.00 (Zeus) winning team fun to watch
1.05 (Rad Brichards) winning team fun to watch
1.29 (Russians) boring team except when that line is out
1.09 (Russians) boring team except when that line is out

Pretty consistent especially running through what you would call his "prime". The only true off year was when he had wrist surgery and played center.

I respect Fatty and I get what he is saying, but that to me is just a lateral move.....Paciorrety and Panarin are 1 in the same......I'd take panarin based on age and the fact he probably hasn't reached his NHL potential yet.....Pac probably so.....

I'd trade AA and slide 8 into the pivot before dumping 72........I get people are down after his lack of playoff or his production post contact, but many guys bomb right after signing a big deal......Toews, Kopitar, etc.
- SteveRain

Patches is 6'2 215 - so Saads size and consistently scores 35ish goals with zero help. So he can potentially carry Toews and make him look like a 10 million dollar player again while you can put whomever on AA and Kane's left and AA still gets his 40 and Kane still gets his 80+

Patches putting up 65-70 points and Toews getting closer to 70 points and being able to have two lines that can score is better than having one line that can score.

ANNNNND YOU SAVE 1.5 million in cap space over 3 years which is probably when they need to think about blowing it up anyway

Interesting

The Blackhawks and Golden Knights could be closing on a deal for Trevor van Riemsdyk & Marcus Kruger https://t.co/8UO0Tn5YB6 #TSNHockey pic.twitter.com/Xrrs4HV3GI

— TSN Hockey (@TSNHockey) May 31, 2017

- DarthKane

Reported here previously, McPhee likes (or used to like anyway) Kruger

[quote=DarthKane]If the cap is flat and Vegas takes Kruger then the Hawks are still around $1.5 over. Other contract needs to go and Panarin wouldn't be my first choice (or second or third) but if there is a solid hockey deal then why not consider it?
- wiz1901[/quoti believe it a lot less than that...

And there is a nice way to get help via Las Vegas: offer them the right combo of player prospect and draft pick and have them poach the back up goalie you want, the nice Cap contracted forward or even high price veteran you want by way of trade, if you actually trade a big contract.

F---ing brilliant. Seriously. Cuz there could be some decent depth pieces there.

Props to Jen B as she moves on from HockeyBuzz. Always well written Habs blogs.
- riozzo

Yep, nice person too.

Hopefully we see a Rutta signing soon
- 93Joe

Jan Rutta, the love child of Jan Hejda and Jarko Ruutu

I respect Fatty and I get what he is saying, but that to me is just a lateral move.....Paciorrety and Panarin are 1 in the same......I'd take panarin based on age and the fact he probably hasn't reached his NHL potential yet.....Pac probably so.....

I'd trade AA and slide 8 into the pivot before dumping 72........I get people are down after his lack of playoff or his production post contact, but many guys bomb right after signing a big deal......Toews, Kopitar, etc.
- SteveRain

me too

me too
- John Jaeckel

I think this is why there is so much speculation around Anisimov. Schmaltz has shown enough to be the 2nd line center (or they think he will).

I think this is why there is so much speculation around Anisimov. Schmaltz has shown enough to be the 2nd line center (or they think he will).
- hpk90

Lets hope StanBo doesn't re-up Schmaltz with a 4 yr x 4.5MM and throw in the obligatory NMC.

Patches is 6'2 215 - so Saads size and consistently scores 35ish goals with zero help. So he can potentially carry Toews and make him look like a 10 million dollar player again while you can put whomever on AA and Kane's left and AA still gets his 40 and Kane still gets his 80+

Patches putting up 65-70 points and Toews getting closer to 70 points and being able to have two lines that can score is better than having one line that can score.

ANNNNND YOU SAVE 1.5 million in cap space over 3 years which is probably when they need to think about blowing it up anyway
- fattybeef

Id deal AA before panarin or Hammer. I'd reunite Hossa with Toews and then try to find a young kid to skate with them.

Kane's top point years have come with Panarin. Yes, thank you for the year by year comparison, and added notes..... I don't care if a team is boring as long as they win.

IMO, you trade AA along with the KRuger and TVR proposed Vegas dealings.

You want a nice add for the Toews line? Go get Justin Williams for 1-2 years and slide down Hartman with Kero and whoever else on line 3.

me too
- John Jaeckel

I'd love to see them going after Williams for 1-2 years if they could swing it. Wanted him back when Washington got him.

me too
- John Jaeckel

I would too. I know a lot of people will be concerned about the size factor of that line but look at the success of the triplets line. If Schmaltz continues to develop and gets stronger, I see no reason why a line of Kane-Schmaltz-Panarin can't work.

Add more size and speed to the lower lines to balance it out.