storm88
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Location: Surrey, BC Joined: 09.29.2011
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They are bringing Miller back, we don't need more defense.
Playing meaningful games in March. - Marwood
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storm88
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Location: Surrey, BC Joined: 09.29.2011
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Pitt also turned sutter into bonino and used Glenndening in the hagelin trade - Redmile247
Bonino had 1 nice playoff run last year. Even then, only 4 goals in 24 games. He wasn't playing behind Crosby and Malkin in VAN
At the end of the day tho it was a trade that VAN didn't have to make. Players are virtually the same ppg since being moved. But one player is making 4 Shmill, the other under 2.
I wonder who will overpay for him this summer? Or will he understand how good he has it in Pitt and take a discount. |
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Bonino had 1 nice playoff run last year. Even then, only 4 goals in 24 games. He wasn't playing behind Crosby and Malkin in VAN
At the end of the day tho it was a trade that VAN didn't have to make. Players are virtually the same ppg since being moved. But one player is making 4 Shmill, the other under 2.
I wonder who will overpay for him this summer? Or will he understand how good he has it in Pitt and take a discount. - storm88
Bonino seems to have a penchant for big goals at the right time, like a lot of the Pittsburgh players. But I agree, Sutter and Bonino are pretty much the same quality of player, a really good 3rd line centre than can occasionally slot into the top 6. Sutter seems to score more goals though, which I like. |
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Bonino seems to have a penchant for big goals at the right time, like a lot of the Pittsburgh players. But I agree, Sutter and Bonino are pretty much the same quality of player, a really good 3rd line centre than can occasionally slot into the top 6. Sutter seems to score more goals though, which I like. - Crazybagoham
Sutter's biggest asset is his speed and faceoffs IMO and the Canucks badly needed those things. I dislike his contract and the way he has been used here but he was always the better player for the Canucks.
That said Bonino can actually create offense and if we were going to give one of those two players top 6 ice time, I would of preferred it to be Bonino. |
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Sutter's biggest asset is his speed and faceoffs IMO and the Canucks badly needed those things. I dislike his contract and the way he has been used here but he was always the better player for the Canucks.
That said Bonino can actually create offense and if we were going to give one of those two players top 6 ice time, I would of preferred it to be Bonino. - belcherbd
I'm wondering if JB looks at Bonino this summer, for a fair deal. Then we could play Sutter back with the Sedins, have Sutter Taking Hanks draws.
Apparently Bonino is looking for a raise, one would think he would take a deal with Pitt, so Van would have to outbid. |
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Bonino had 1 nice playoff run last year. Even then, only 4 goals in 24 games. He wasn't playing behind Crosby and Malkin in VAN
At the end of the day tho it was a trade that VAN didn't have to make. Players are virtually the same ppg since being moved. But one player is making 4 Shmill, the other under 2.
I wonder who will overpay for him this summer? Or will he understand how good he has it in Pitt and take a discount. - storm88
The trade doesn't bother me.
I think it boils down to
Kessler
2nd
Spare parts
Forsling
For
Sbisa
3rd
Gudbranson
Sutter
Fix it for me as I'm sure I'm missing a mid round pick or two. Also the 2nd we swapped for a third only moves us down 6 picks so I'm not giving it full value |
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Bonino had 1 nice playoff run last year. Even then, only 4 goals in 24 games. He wasn't playing behind Crosby and Malkin in VAN
At the end of the day tho it was a trade that VAN didn't have to make. Players are virtually the same ppg since being moved. But one player is making 4 Shmill, the other under 2.
I wonder who will overpay for him this summer? Or will he understand how good he has it in Pitt and take a discount. - storm88
I wasn't really comparing sutter and bones ...more just adding to the return in the staal trade
I think bonino will go for a pay day ...he has been underpaid
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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I'm wondering if JB looks at Bonino this summer, for a fair deal. Then we could play Sutter back with the Sedins, have Sutter Taking Hanks draws.
Apparently Bonino is looking for a raise, one would think he would take a deal with Pitt, so Van would have to outbid. - Crazybagoham
I certainly hope not.
The only UFA's I would want us to go after is a physical forward ( King, White, Winnick etc.) and some more NHL depth on the blueline ( B. Smith, Gryba, Stone).
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I have seen a few articles where the Sens may leave Dion or Bobby Ryan exposed for the draft.
Not one mention did I hear of other players ever refusing to ever sign again with the Sens. If someone here mentions put Edler or Sutter exposed and this team is dubbed the Black Plague and no one for the next 50 years will ever sign here - VANTEL
Technically they can't unless both players agree to it, they both have NMC's in their contracts. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Technically they can't unless both players agree to it, they both have NMC's in their contracts. - LeftCoaster
Flagged for falsehoods and outright lies
Edler and Sutter have a NTC not a NMC, so they could be exposed if we wanted.. but for all the hate Edler gets, he's not overpaid unlike Phaneuf so I don't see tree benefit in exposing him. |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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The trade doesn't bother me.
I think it boils down to
Kessler
2nd
Spare parts
Forsling
For
Sbisa
3rd
Gudbranson
Sutter
Fix it for me as I'm sure I'm missing a mid round pick or two. Also the 2nd we swapped for a third only moves us down 6 picks so I'm not giving it full value - Pres.cup
I believe this is the full transaction of all the players/picks involved.
Kesler
3rd 2015
Forsling
Bonino
Clendening
2nd 2016
Bieksa
McCaan
2nd 2016
4th 2016
for
Sbisa
Dorsett
Sutter
3rd 2016
Gudbranson
5th 2016 |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Flagged for falsehoods and outright lies
Edler has a NTC not a NMC, so he could be exposed if we wanted.. but for all the hate he gets, he's not overpaid unlike Phaneuf so I don't see tree benefit in exposing him. - Pres.cup
Phaneuf and Ryan have the NMC..... |
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Phaneuf and Ryan have the NMC..... - belcherbd
Aha, i did he was talking about our players.... flag removed. |
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Aha, i died he was talking about our players.... flag removed. - Pres.cup
You died?
This is the second time this week I have conversed with the dead. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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I believe this is the full transaction of all the players/picks involved.
Kesler
3rd 2015
Forsling
Bonino
Clendening
2nd 2016
Bieksa
McCaan
2nd 2016
4th 2016
for
Sbisa
Dorsett
Sutter
3rd 2016
Gudbranson
5th 2016 - belcherbd
When you break it down this far, it really makes you want to cry.
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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I believe this is the full transaction of all the players/picks involved.
Kesler
3rd 2015
Forsling
Bonino
Clendening
2nd 2016
McCaan
2nd 2016
4th 2016
for
Sbisa
Dorsett
Sutter
3rd 2016
Gudbranson
5th 2016 - belcherbd
Weren't Bonino, McCann and one of the seconds or the third the return for Kessler, you can't include them I only one side of the trade without also putting them on the other. I'm not sure about the picks but I'm removing the players and reposting.
Also wasn't clendening traded for forsling?
Kesler
3rd 2015
Forsling
Clendening
2nd 2016
2nd 2016
4th 2016
for
Sbisa
Dorsett
Sutter
3rd 2016
Gudbranson
5th 2016
Anyone care to edit it further? |
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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You died?
This is the second time this week I have conversed with the dead. - belcherbd
Lol.... this site really makes it hard to post from a smart phone. |
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NorthNuck
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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You died?
This is the second time this week I have conversed with the dead. - belcherbd
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Weren't Bonino, McCann and one of the seconds or the third the return for Kessler, you can't include them I only one side of the trade without also putting them on the other. I'm not sure about the picks but I'm removing the players and reposting.
Anyone care to edit it further? - Pres.cup
The way I see it, Bonino, McCann and the 2nd were used to acquire other pieces, Sutter, Gudbranson etc.
What I posted is purely what went out and what came back in.
You can see each deal in detail here.
http://www.nhltradetracke...t_by_GM/Jim_Benning/280/1 |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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When you break it down this far, it really makes you want to cry. - Codes1087
I can't believe people are still talking about this. |
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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.24.2014
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Weren't Bonino, McCann and one of the seconds or the third the return for Kessler, you can't include them I only one side of the trade without also putting them on the other. I'm not sure about the picks but I'm removing the players and reposting.
Also wasn't clendening traded for forsling?
Kesler
3rd 2015
Forsling
Clendening
2nd 2016
2nd 2016
4th 2016
for
Sbisa
Dorsett
Sutter
3rd 2016
Gudbranson
5th 2016
Anyone care to edit it further? - Pres.cup
no matter how you spin it, it doesn't look good lol
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Flagged for falsehoods and outright lies
Edler and Sutter have a NTC not a NMC, so they could be exposed if we wanted.. but for all the hate Edler gets, he's not overpaid unlike Phaneuf so I don't see tree benefit in exposing him. - Pres.cup
I'm talking about Phaneuf and Bobby Ryan |
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Codes1087
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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NorthNuck
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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