I am privatizing the spy bird industry and there is nothing you can do to stop me.

The monopoly is mine.
- Mordecai

You mother (frank)er. I'll get Tanner to write an article about how the next president will deprivatise it.

Hilarious. Name me one thing previously run by the government that was improved by privatization. The privatization of anything is about one thing and one thing only: unfettered greed.

What we need is a bigger government and less privatization.
- james_tanner1

Privatization helped Telus become much more efficient, effective and provide cheaper services than AGT. Divesting Petro Canada also enabled it to be more efficient, effective and profitable too. Tough to find many examples of things the government took over that was improved by nationalization?

Venezuela is a fine model of bigger socialist government with less privatization. Nationalization is about one thing and one thing only: power for the ruling class.

The answer lies between these extremes.

You mother (frank)er. I'll get Tanner to write an article about how the next president will deprivatise it.
- RafiDRW

My next target is the privatization of hockeybuzz.

I will write the biggest, most gorgeous check Ek has ever seen.

I have the best checks, no one even comes close to how great my checks are.

I generally think you're an intelligent and interesting poster, but the bolded is just silly

As Canadians we are required in no way to hold some sort of reverence for the leader of your country. And vice versa holds true.
Furthermore, I think the dude currently in that office is making a mockery of the position and your entire nation. So if the shoe fits..

This wasn't intended as an attack, but just a retort to that final silly notion you wrote
- HB77

I personally would never disrespect the office of a leader of another country when discussing politics with anyone from that country. You can disapprove of the policies and actions of a leader without disrespecting the office. I think it's silly for you to post that Canadians are not required to hold some sort of reverence for the leader of our Country. Having respect for the office is just something that should be adhered to as a decent person and to call that notion silly is frankly asinine.
I personally think Trump while certainly not perfect and has made some political mistakes that really have no bearing on anything, is doing a solid job and hopefully he continues to implement his platform and his promises to the American people.

"Within the United States, an impressive array of cities and local governments has made effective use of privatization to improve efficiency, increase competition, and reduce expenditures. Consider the case of Chicago. City towing crews could not keep up with abandoned vehicles that littered the streets, so in 1989, the city government turned to a number of neighborhood companies. The private sector operators paid the city $25 per vehicle, which they then sold for scrap. What had been a drain on Chicago’s resources turned into a $1.2 million bonanza. In addition, city crews were freed up to focus their efforts on illegal downtown parking.

Chicago also found that competition from the private sector could create incentives for public managers to be more effective. In 1990, city street-paving crews in Chicago were inspired to improve their performance when the city government decided to hire private contractors to pave adjacent wards. According to Mayor Richard M. Daley, both sets of crews began to compete “to see who could do the job faster and better.”

Here you go Tanner found a good example

My next target is the privatization of hockeybuzz.

I will write the biggest, most gorgeous check Ek has ever seen.

I have the best checks, no one even comes close to how great my checks are.
- Mordecai

It'll be huuuuge.

"Of course, all of the evidence is not on one side of the privatization debate. The expansion of the private sector into prisons, for example, has generated considerable controversy. As John Donahue reports in The Privatization Decision: Public Ends, Private Means, corrections departments in all but a few states have contracted with private firms to build prisons. And over two-thirds of all facilities for juvenile offenders are privately run, albeit most on a not-for-profit basis.

But in recent years, several large corporations have sought to extend the role of the private sector to the incarceration of adult criminals. This prospect of private corporations owning and operating prisons for adult offenders raises questions of costs and competition. As Donahue writes in a separate report on prisons: “Even if corrections entrepreneurs somehow succeed in cutting incarceration costs through improved management, there is unlikely to be enough competition, in any given community, to ensure that cost savings are passed on to the taxpayers, particularly after private contractors have become entrenched. Indeed, private prison operators insist on long-term contracts which buffer them from competition.”"

In the interest of being as objective as possible, here's one example where privatization did not work out so well.

I personally would never disrespect the office of a leader of another country when discussing politics with anyone from that country. You can disapprove of the policies and actions of a leader without disrespecting the office. I think it's silly for you to post that Canadians are not required to hold some sort of reverence for the leader of our Country. Having respect for the office is just something that should be adhered to as a decent person and to call that notion silly is frankly asinine.
I personally think Trump while certainly not perfect and has made some political mistakes that really have no bearing on anything, is doing a solid job and hopefully he continues to implement his platform and his promises to the American people.
- MJL

i started writing a retort and then realized you and I live on different planets of what constitutes a 'decent person' and what my moral obligations are, so I stopped.


Keep your jackboots off my lawn mister

"Starr also attacks the claim that privatization leads to less government. He contends that profit-seeking private enterprises servicing public customers will find it in their interests to lobby for the expansion of public spending with no less vigor than did their public sector predecessors. In other words, privatization introduces a feedback effect in which influence on government now comes from the “enlarged class of private contractors and other providers dependent on public money.” This influence is especially dangerous if private companies skim off only the most lucrative services, leaving public institutions as service providers of last resort for the highest cost population or operations.

It is not hard to find examples of undue influence. Michael Willrich’s Washington Monthly article, “Department of Self-Services,” describes corrupt contracting practices in Mayor Marion Barry’s Washington D.C. administration that led to several investigations, trials, and convictions. Willrich claims that Rasheeda Moore, Barry’s former girlfriend, received $180,000 worth of contracts to run summer youth programs. In 1987, Alphonse Hill, a deputy mayor, was convicted of steering $300,000 in city contracts to a friend’s auditing firm."

Another example of bad privatization practices.

Secret to Pittsburgh's Success= Crosby and Malkin.

Didn't even read the blog. Didn't have to.
- Crazybagoham

Basically this.....and it's not a secret.

i started writing a retort and then realized you and I live on different planets of what constitutes a 'decent person' and what my moral obligations are, so I stopped.


Keep your jackboots off my lawn mister
- HB77

"This growth of privatization has not, of course, gone uncontested. Critics of widespread privatization contend that private ownership does not necessarily translate into improved efficiency. More important, they argue, private sector managers may have no compunction about adopting profit-making strategies or corporate practices that make essential services unaffordable or unavailable to large segments of the population. A profit-seeking operation may not, for example, choose to provide health care to the indigent or extend education to poor or learning-disabled children. Efforts to make such activities profitable would quite likely mean the reintroduction of government intervention—after the fact. The result may be less appealing than if the government had simply continued to provide the services in the first place."

Here's the argument Tanner is making basically and he does have a point but it's not a black and white issue
- Mordecai

I agree it's not a black and white issue. There are a lot of things that don't need to be privatized - but liquor, transit, education, medicine - a bunch of other things - should never be for profit.

Ekblad overrated? You used to be huge fan of him..
- CanesFans94

I am still a huge fan of Ekblad. I think he's an awesome player - but after a bad season I saw someone list him in the top ten this morning, and that's overrated.

Everyone should send a PM to Eklund and the site management to get them to ask Tanner to stay away from politics in his blogs. It's one thing to deal with his uninformed hockey opinions but we shouldn't have to deal with his ridiculously off base political views not to mention his blatant disrespect for the office of the Presidency of the United States.
- MJL

You don't have to read it.

I am sorry, but I think it's disgusting to think that you should have any influence in the content of my blog. You are free to read anything and ignore anything you don't like.

If you want to ask me to cover something or not cover something, that is your prerogative, but to act like I am providing a free public service to you, and that you have any right to dictate the content of that service, well, I just don't agree.

I also don't agree with censorship in any form, so I will write what I want to write about or I won't be writing. To his immense credit, Eklund, nor anyone from hockeybuzz mgmt has ever told me what or what not to write about (within the limits of what is appropriate).

Pretty hilarious though that the Trump supporter, the guy who calls everyone a snowflake, is being a baby about content he doesn't like.

Look no further than Venezuela to see the disaster big government has wrought on a society.

Unless of course you think the rulers of Venezuela are too busy watching Fox news.
- quackup

I am sure it's more complicated than a false comparison and an anecdotal example of a third world country would make it seem, but that's probably just my education talking.

I see. Fox News is the big boogeyman in the room, but there's been zero brainwashing done by CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSN, Google, Yahoo, and the list goes on?

Got it.
- quackup

There really is no comparison, as literally hundreds of independent studies will confirm.

I personally would never disrespect the office of a leader of another country when discussing politics with anyone from that country. You can disapprove of the policies and actions of a leader without disrespecting the office. I think it's silly for you to post that Canadians are not required to hold some sort of reverence for the leader of our Country. Having respect for the office is just something that should be adhered to as a decent person and to call that notion silly is frankly asinine.
I personally think Trump while certainly not perfect and has made some political mistakes that really have no bearing on anything, is doing a solid job and hopefully he continues to implement his platform and his promises to the American people.
- MJL

Oh my god. Laugh my ass off!!

I agree it's not a black and white issue. There are a lot of things that don't need to be privatized - but liquor, transit, education, medicine - a bunch of other things - should never be for profit.
- james_tanner1

I think using the word "never" is inappropriate but the results of failed privatization of these services are certainly glaring.

You don't have to read it.

I am sorry, but I think it's disgusting to think that you should have any influence in the content of my blog. You are free to read anything and ignore anything you don't like.

If you want to ask me to cover something or not cover something, that is your prerogative, but to act like I am providing a free public service to you, and that you have any right to dictate the content of that service, well, I just don't agree.

I also don't agree with censorship in any form, so I will write what I want to write about or I won't be writing. To his commence credit, Eklund, nor anyone from hockeybuzz mgmt has ever told me what or what not to write about (within the limits of what is appropriate).

Pretty hilarious though that the Trump supporter, the guy who calls everyone a snowflake is being a baby about content he doesn't like.
- james_tanner1

James, I have never, not once called anyone on this forum a snowflake. You are again misinformed and mistaken. Politics are simply innapropiate for a online hockey discussion forum.

I think using the word "never" is inappropriate but the results of failed privatization of these services are certainly glaring.
- Mordecai

For me,, I wouldn't care about privatization if there were limits on how much you can profit.

Make a little profit for your time, but at a certain point it's disgusting.

There really is no comparison, as literally hundreds of independent studies will confirm.
- james_tanner1

This is pretty funny.

For me,, I wouldn't care about privatization if there were limits on how much you can profit.

Make a little profit for your time, but at a certain point it's disgusting.
- james_tanner1

For sure. There are some real scumbags out there who have no interest in privatization to make goods and services more readily available to low income and impoverished communities. The American prison monopoly is a great example.

Yeah i'd also like to apologize again for dragging out this political nonsense. I know most of you guys and girls don't want to see this on HB and it's not fair to everyone else for me to keep pushing and pushing the issue.

Good discussion for the most part and thanks for not endlessly reporting my comments everyone.

Yeah i'd also like to apologize again for dragging out this political nonsense. I know most of you guys and girls don't want to see this on HB and it's not fair to everyone else for me to keep pushing and pushing the issue.

Good discussion for the most part and thanks for not endlessly reporting my comments everyone.
- Mordecai

Oops.

Oops.
- RafiDRW

I figure if i havent been banned yet it cant be that bad, right?