How dare you. Global warming is a myth because of a media conspiracy in the seventies. Not because these idiots can prevent you with facts and an argument they themselves compose, thus showing they have an understandimg of what they are arguing, but simply because they can use google and copy n paste link's.
- leonkennedy

Ignorance is bliss. I get it.

Global cooling of the 70's was just as real as global warming of today. But I guess it's easier to pretend it never occurred.

How dare you. Global warming is a myth because of a media conspiracy in the seventies. Not because these idiots can present you with facts and an argument they themselves compose, thus showing they have an understandimg of what they are arguing, but simply because they can use google and copy n paste link's.
- leonkennedy

A shocking statement was made by a United Nations official Christiana Figueres at a news conference in Brussels.



Figueres admitted that the Global Warming conspiracy set by the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which she is the executive secretary, has a goal not of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy capitalism. She said very casually:

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/...out-destroying-capitalism

Ignorance is bliss. I get it.

Global cooling of the 70's was just as real as global warming of today. But I guess it's easier to pretend it never occurred.
- quackup

Wait? You are refering to your own ignorance on the topic? Being unable to understand and explain a phenomenon, and simply pass it off as being non existent because of a media story in the 70's?

I like when you guys come to my door and try to sell me on a particular religion. They can't provide me with any facts as to prove the existence of their mythological gods either.

Wait? You are refering to your own ignorance on the topic? Being unable to understand and explain a phenomenon, and simply pass it off as being non existent because of a media story in the 70's?

I like when you guys come to my door and try to sell me on a particular religion. They can't provide me with any facts as to prove the existence of their mythological gods either.
- leonkennedy

Love your avatar. RE4 on GameCube used to be my poop

A shocking statement was made by a United Nations official Christiana Figueres at a news conference in Brussels.



Figueres admitted that the Global Warming conspiracy set by the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, of which she is the executive secretary, has a goal not of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy capitalism. She said very casually:

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/...out-destroying-capitalism
- arh777

Have you posted a single link to an objective source yet? Or do you get all of your information from sites that are plastered with ads and immediately asking you to buy or sign up for something, as soon as you click on a link? I bet you tell people rumors you hear from Eklund as facts too.

Love your avatar. RE4 on GameCube used to be my poop
- Mordecai

Thanks. Loved the R.E. series. The avatar was made by the legendary horseguts. May he rest in peace.

Have you posted a single link to an objective source yet? Or do you get all of your information from sites that are plastered with ads and immediately asking you to buy or sign up for something, as soon as you click on a link? I bet you tell people rumors you hear from Eklund as facts too.
- leonkennedy

There are no objective sources on climate change, there are facts, and then crazy people

Have you posted a single link to an objective source yet? Or do you get all of your information from sites that are plastered with ads and immediately asking you to buy or sign up for something, as soon as you click on a link? I bet you tell people rumors you hear from Eklund as facts too.
- leonkennedy

Did she say it?? Yes she did! The New York Times or the Washington post aren't going to print anything against the religion called Liberalism because they are part of it!

And the same is available here. Nobody here is denied healthcare. People here are denied health insurance. Healthcare and health insurance are two totally separate things. A homeless person on the street is admitted to the hospital in an emergency.

The amount of fraud and abuse is astronomical. Those individuals that screw the system make it that much harder for everybody else. And the abuse is rampant.

The individual STATES have programs to cover the poor and indigent. Now, admittedly the facilities are not as nice as those of private insurance, but they're available nonetheless.

It's a compassion argument, which I understand, but unless one works in the industry (I do) the information and understanding of medical reinbursement is grossly inaccurate. The media feeds this misinformation. There is always the bleeding heart article that everybody reads, but behind that article often times there's really poor decisions made by that individual that resulted in their hardship.

And lets remember, we're speaking of everyone under the age of 65, because at that age everyone has insurance (medicare). We're talking about adults of working age that don't have insurance. Not anyone 65 and above.
- quackup

All the hospital has to do is stabilize you. So let's say you come in and are bleeding to death because your broken leg severed an artery, and so while taking an x-ray they find your bones littered with cancer, and it's clearly spread. All they have to do is stop the bleeding, they don't even technically have to set the bone. That's the extent of their responsibility. After that they throw your ass to the curb if you can't pay. Go ahead and tell me that's healthcare. I dare you.

Wow Tanner! You really have the Liberal talking points down. When you're talking about pre existing conditions you're not talking about insurance. You don't go buy fire insurance after your house burns down. Obama attempted and partially achieved another entitlement program. Going to be difficult to walk that back however a free market system is the best way.
- arh777

Yes, because a woman should be denied, or have her rates go through the roof because she had a C-section before she get said insurance. You're better than that.

From what ?

Yes you have a military that is much bigger than ours.
And if any foreign force invaded us that could threaten your way of like you'd certainly help. As long as their was a long term positive monetary gain in it

But this whole 'murica fuk yeah' argument makes me chuckle.
There's nothing to protect us from. Our Foreign policy overall is much more sane and we aren't in any immediate risk. And haven't been for a long long time
- HB77

It's like they think the N Koreans and the Chinese are drawing up invasion plans as we speak and are going to act on them next week. China doesn't even have the capability to invade Taiwan FFS... And they can stand on the shore and hit them with rocks. Whereas we're 6,000 miles away.

It's a scam in the sense of man made global warming. Not to mention it's been cooling for the last 19 years.
- arh777

Jesus

No disrespect but I'm believe you're taking about the welfare reforms initiated by Newt Gingrich in his Contract with America. That was 1994. I just gave you 2012 and the Hertage Foundation is just fine. You guys make the same arguments every time. You don't like what's being said so you attack the source as illigitimate. Can't make this stuff up !
- arh777

You realize you literally do the same thing, right?

Yes, because a woman should be denied, or have her rates go through the roof because she had a C-section before she get said insurance. You're better than that.
- Wetbandit1

I would have to ask why she's pregnant and doesn't have insurance? Come on you can do better then that!

You realize you literally do the same thing, right?
- Wetbandit1

Funny thing about that is I do it with facts. Tanner et al has done it with opinion!!
There's a big difference!

There are no objective sources on climate change, there are facts, and then crazy people
- sbroads24

But but but it's a liberal conspiracy !!

How the fuk do you Have rational discourse when there's this culture of science denial, fact denial and nonsense conspiratorial rhetoric as a base of ones argument?

In this thread alone these are some of the claims made;

Trump is a more respected leader on the world stage than obama was.
If Hilary had won the us would've turned into a 3rd world country.
More educated people Vote republican.
Universal healthcare is inferior to the alternative of the poorest not having access at all because wait times for shoulder MRI's are shorter.
California is broke and the poorest state in the us.
States with democrats as leaders give too many handouts and assistance.
You're not really poor if there's people in Japan that are poorer.
Climate change is a hoax to end capitalism


Every single One of these idiotic statements is unequivocally false.

Holy fuk !!

But but but it's a liberal conspiracy !!

How the fuk do you Have rational discourse when there's this culture of science denial, fact denial and nonsense conspiratorial rhetoric as a base of ones argument?

In this thread alone these are some of the claims made;

Trump is a more respected leader on the world stage than obama was.
If Hilary had won the us would've turned into a 3rd world country.
More educated people Vote republican.
Universal healthcare is inferior to the alternative of the poorest not having access at all because wait times for shoulder MRI's are shorter.
California is broke and the poorest state in the us.
States with democrats as leaders give too many handouts and assistance.
You're not really poor if there's people in Japan that are poorer.
Climate change is a hoax to end capitalism


Every single One of these idiotic statements is unequivocally false.

Holy fuk !!
- HB77

Says the Canadian!

It's like they think the N Koreans and the Chinese are drawing up invasion plans as we speak and are going to act on them next week. China doesn't even have the capability to invade Taiwan FFS... And they can stand on the shore and hit them with rocks. Whereas we're 6,000 miles away.
- Wetbandit1

We protect you puny Canadians.
Murica fuk yeah!!

Says the Canadian!
- arh777

Yes, I'm Canadian.
The first true statement you've made thus far.
How does my nationality change anything ?

All the hospital has to do is stabilize you. So let's say you come in and are bleeding to death because your broken leg severed an artery, and so while taking an x-ray they find your bones littered with cancer, and it's clearly spread. All they have to do is stop the bleeding, they don't even technically have to set the bone. That's the extent of their responsibility. After that they throw your ass to the curb if you can't pay. Go ahead and tell me that's healthcare. I dare you.
- Wetbandit1

But dude, he had shorter wait times to get his sore back sorted out

The earth does go through cooling and warming periods and yes it is currently in a "cooling" phase but the average temperature is still too high and will continue to rise.

The idea that every single scientist in the history of forever is pushing some sort of global agenda for more funding is asinine. Does it happen? Yes, there are some douche bags out there who abuse the system but they are not the rule.

Climate change is very real and while you and i may not experience many direct effects, it WILL affect future generations.
- Mordecai

Well, except for the last 5 years where every year was hotter than the year before which happened to be the hottest year on record.

You want to find the real answers? Go to the Pentagon, they have to know exactly how thick the ice is for their subs, so they know where it's ok to surface and where it's not. You will get 100% accurate results from them. They say that climate change is a huge problem security wise. They're also worried about Skynet, so maybe take that with a grain of salt.

Inconvenient facts. In the 70's the hysteria was GLOBAL COOLING!!!!!

It never ends with the left. But of course that was the 70"s and since cooling never took place, THAT hysteria is ignored.
- quackup

You ought to read 1984. It's very instructive about how those in power "other" someone / something in order to get sheep to go along with it. I think of this when ever someone starts something by saying "Liberals.." or "The left..."

which is laughable. Thinking that anyone who disagrees with you is just part of some conspiracy.....that's just not logical.

We protect you puny Canadians.
Murica fuk yeah!!
- HB77

It was true in 1974, and even then it was kind of a joke because there was never going to be a conventional invasion, just lots and lots of missiles, but you guys would've had a hell of a show watching those rockets streak overhead on their way here, but it's plain absurd now.

Well, except for the last 5 years where every year was hotter than the year before which happened to be the hottest year on record.

You want to find the real answers? Go to the Pentagon, they have to know exactly how thick the ice is for their subs, so they know where it's ok to surface and where it's not. You will get 100% accurate results from them. They say that climate change is a huge problem security wise. They're also worried about Skynet, so maybe take that with a grain of salt.
- Wetbandit1

But how will the increased temperature affect my tin foil helmet

Well, except for the last 5 years where every year was hotter than the year before which happened to be the hottest year on record.

You want to find the real answers? Go to the Pentagon, they have to know exactly how thick the ice is for their subs, so they know where it's ok to surface and where it's not. You will get 100% accurate results from them. They say that climate change is a huge problem security wise. They're also worried about Skynet, so maybe take that with a grain of salt.
- Wetbandit1

Global warming and climate change are not mutually exclusive is what i was trying to say. You can be in a cooling phase and still experience rising temperatures on a global scale because nothing is ever easy apparently.