sbroads24
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You are wrong and I don't really know what to do about it. When people doubt facts and aren't open to new ideas it's inane. There shouldn't be any partisan discussion - we should all be open minded and change are mind when new information becomes available.
A conservative should be as disgusted by Donald Trump as I am. Any person denying Global Warming needs to go back to school. It's real. Debate over. 2+ 3 = 5 and it's not an opinion. If you think it's 3 or 6 you're just wrong. - James_Tanner
This world is insane. I am at a loss over the last 5 or 6 months.
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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It's a scam in the sense of man made global warming. Not to mention it's been cooling for the last 19 years. - arh777
The earth does go through cooling and warming periods and yes it is currently in a "cooling" phase but the average temperature is still too high and will continue to rise.
The idea that every single scientist in the history of forever is pushing some sort of global agenda for more funding is asinine. Does it happen? Yes, there are some douche bags out there who abuse the system but they are not the rule.
Climate change is very real and while you and i may not experience many direct effects, it WILL affect future generations. |
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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You are wrong and I don't really know what to do about it. When people doubt facts and aren't open to new ideas it's insane. There shouldn't be any partisan discussion - we should all be open minded and change our mind when new information becomes available.
A conservative should be as disgusted by Donald Trump as I am. Any person denying Global Warming needs to go back to school. It's real. Debate over. 2+ 3 = 5 and it's not an opinion. If you think it's 3 or 6 you're just wrong. - James_Tanner
Al Gore! Is that you?? |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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No one is saying we have to completely eliminate fossil fuels right now. That is impossible and would put millions of Americans citizens out of work. It's going to be a long and complicated process of using what we already have and implementing new strategies to create sustainable and cleaner energy.
The growth of industry in sustainable energy is paramount for future generations. |
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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The earth does go through cooling and warming periods and yes it is currently in a "cooling" phase but the average temperature is still too high and will continue to rise.
The idea that every single scientist in the history of forever is pushing some sort of global agenda for more funding is asinine. Does it happen? Yes.
But climate change is very real and while you and i may not experience many direct effects, it WILL affect future generations. - Mordecai
http://canadafreepress.co...ensus-is-complete-fiction
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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You are wrong and I don't really know what to do about it. When people doubt facts and aren't open to new ideas it's insane. There shouldn't be any partisan discussion - we should all be open minded and change our mind when new information becomes available.
A conservative should be as disgusted by Donald Trump as I am. Any person denying Global Warming needs to go back to school. It's real. Debate over. 2+ 3 = 5 and it's not an opinion. If you think it's 3 or 6 you're just wrong. - James_Tanner
Take your pick...
http://climatechangedispa...efuting-the-97-consensus/ |
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Mordecai
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Models predict that Earth will warm between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius in the next century. When global warming has happened at various times in the past two million years, it has taken the planet about 5,000 years to warm 5 degrees. The predicted rate of warming for the next century is at least 20 times faster. This rate of change is extremely unusual.
That is directly from NASA's website. |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Current Warming Natural?
In Earth’s history before the Industrial Revolution, Earth’s climate changed due to natural causes not related to human activity. Most often, global climate has changed because of variations in sunlight. Tiny wobbles in Earth’s orbit altered when and where sunlight falls on Earth’s surface. Variations in the Sun itself have alternately increased and decreased the amount of solar energy reaching Earth. Volcanic eruptions have generated particles that reflect sunlight, brightening the planet and cooling the climate. Volcanic activity has also, in the deep past, increased greenhouse gases over millions of years, contributing to episodes of global warming.
A biographical sketch of Milutin Milankovitch describes how changes in Earth’s orbit affects its climate.
These natural causes are still in play today, but their influence is too small or they occur too slowly to explain the rapid warming seen in recent decades. We know this because scientists closely monitor the natural and human activities that influence climate with a fleet of satellites and surface instruments. |
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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Current Warming Natural?
In Earth’s history before the Industrial Revolution, Earth’s climate changed due to natural causes not related to human activity. Most often, global climate has changed because of variations in sunlight. Tiny wobbles in Earth’s orbit altered when and where sunlight falls on Earth’s surface. Variations in the Sun itself have alternately increased and decreased the amount of solar energy reaching Earth. Volcanic eruptions have generated particles that reflect sunlight, brightening the planet and cooling the climate. Volcanic activity has also, in the deep past, increased greenhouse gases over millions of years, contributing to episodes of global warming.
A biographical sketch of Milutin Milankovitch describes how changes in Earth’s orbit affects its climate.
These natural causes are still in play today, but their influence is too small or they occur too slowly to explain the rapid warming seen in recent decades. We know this because scientists closely monitor the natural and human activities that influence climate with a fleet of satellites and surface instruments. - Mordecai
NASA Exposed in ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud
John O'Sullivan
2 years ago
by P Gosselin, notrickszone.com
Veteran award-winning journalist Günter Ederer reports of a shocking new global warming data fraud in NASA’s global temperature data series, as relied on by the UN and government climate scientists.
NASA FRAUD The data has been carefully analysed by a respected data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert and is being made publicly available for independent verification.
Professor Ewert’s findings seem to show NASA has intentionally and systematically rigged the official government record of global temperatures to show recent global warming where none would exist without the upwards ‘revisions.’
The astonishing results are now available online to the public. P Gosselin of notrickzone.com reports:
Ederer reports not long ago retired geologist and data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert began looking at the data behind the global warming claims, and especially the datasets of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS).
https://www.google.com/am...w-climate-data-fraud/amp/ |
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quackup
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA Joined: 09.29.2014
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NASA Exposed in ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud
John O'Sullivan
2 years ago
by P Gosselin, notrickszone.com
Veteran award-winning journalist Günter Ederer reports of a shocking new global warming data fraud in NASA’s global temperature data series, as relied on by the UN and government climate scientists.
NASA FRAUD The data has been carefully analysed by a respected data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert and is being made publicly available for independent verification.
Professor Ewert’s findings seem to show NASA has intentionally and systematically rigged the official government record of global temperatures to show recent global warming where none would exist without the upwards ‘revisions.’
The astonishing results are now available online to the public. P Gosselin of notrickzone.com reports:
Ederer reports not long ago retired geologist and data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert began looking at the data behind the global warming claims, and especially the datasets of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS).
https://www.google.com/am...w-climate-data-fraud/amp/ - arh777
Inconvenient facts. In the 70's the hysteria was GLOBAL COOLING!!!!!
It never ends with the left. But of course that was the 70"s and since cooling never took place, THAT hysteria is ignored.
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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Inconvenient facts. In the 70's the hysteria was GLOBAL COOLING!!!!!
It never ends with the left. But of course that was the 70"s and since cooling never took place, THAT hysteria is ignored. - quackup
I remember it well. Amazing we're called ignorant and closed minded. |
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leonkennedy
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Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY Joined: 04.13.2012
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Inconvenient facts. In the 70's the hysteria was GLOBAL COOLING!!!!!
It never ends with the left. But of course that was the 70"s and since cooling never took place, THAT hysteria is ignored. - quackup
You take your medical advice from Jenny McCarthy too I bet. |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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NASA Exposed in ‘Massive’ New Climate Data Fraud
John O'Sullivan
2 years ago
by P Gosselin, notrickszone.com
Veteran award-winning journalist Günter Ederer reports of a shocking new global warming data fraud in NASA’s global temperature data series, as relied on by the UN and government climate scientists.
NASA FRAUD The data has been carefully analysed by a respected data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert and is being made publicly available for independent verification.
Professor Ewert’s findings seem to show NASA has intentionally and systematically rigged the official government record of global temperatures to show recent global warming where none would exist without the upwards ‘revisions.’
The astonishing results are now available online to the public. P Gosselin of notrickzone.com reports:
Ederer reports not long ago retired geologist and data computation expert Professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert began looking at the data behind the global warming claims, and especially the datasets of NASA’s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS).
https://www.google.com/am...w-climate-data-fraud/amp/ - arh777
It's very interesting and the fluctuations in data that he is presenting are strange.
Unfortunately it's not enough information to discount climate change in my opinion. It's one man's observations of publicly available data. I do appreciate you sharing the article. |
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Pelle31
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Location: Johnstown, PA Joined: 02.13.2007
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secret to success- Tanking |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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You take your medical advice from Jenny McCarthy too I bet. - leonkennedy
Isn't this nuts?
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quackup
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA Joined: 09.29.2014
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MR.Hunter
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Location: ON Joined: 06.22.2016
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What that says is that we're willing to make some sacrifices so that every single person has access to doctors and healthcare. Your party is attempting to take 14 million people off healthcare. That's almost half the population on Canada and we have zero people who are not on healthcare.
So yeah, my rich ass can wait for an MRI so that no one has to go without. - james_tanner1
14?it's 22 million according to Chris Wallace from fox news!,get your factors right!jeez jimmy |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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14?it's 22 million according to Chris Wallace from fox news!,get your factors right!jeez jimmy - MR.Hunter
Please stick to important topics like the Global cooling propaganda of the 1970's.
The truth hurts |
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leonkennedy
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Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY Joined: 04.13.2012
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Isn't this nuts? - sbroads24
Nuts yes, surprising, no. A page earlier they quoted Morgan Freeman, so it's not a surprise how much stock some Americans place in celebrities. |
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Mordecai
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html
Truth hurts. - quackup
To be fair all this article shows is that the media went pretty nuts with the global cooling thing. I'm not arguing that climate change is going to cause the apocalypse tomorrow morning, but that it is something we can't just discount as fake news or some global cabal of scientists trying to dumb down the population and take all the money. I like to think I'm pretty objective and skeptical and if presented with overwhelming evidence that there is no reason to worry about fossil fuels maybe not being such a great thing, I would absolutely subscribe to that. |
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leonkennedy
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Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY Joined: 04.13.2012
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To be fair all this article shows is that the media went pretty nuts with the global cooling thing. I'm not arguing that climate change is going to cause the apocalypse tomorrow morning, but that it is something we can't just discount as fake news or some global cabal of scientists trying to dumb down the population and take all the money. I like to think I'm pretty objective and skeptical and if presented with overwhelming evidence that there is no reason to worry about fossil fuels maybe not being such a great thing, I would absolutely subscribe to that. - Mordecai
How dare you. Global warming is a myth because of a media conspiracy in the seventies. Not because these idiots can present you with facts and an argument they themselves compose, thus showing they have an understandimg of what they are arguing, but simply because they can use google and copy n paste link's. |
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arh777
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Location: Yorba Linda, CA Joined: 03.27.2012
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To be fair all this article shows is that the media went pretty nuts with the global cooling thing. I'm not arguing that climate change is going to cause the apocalypse tomorrow morning, but that it is something we can't just discount as fake news or some global cabal of scientists trying to dumb down the population and take all the money. I like to think I'm pretty objective and skeptical and if presented with overwhelming evidence that there is no reason to worry about fossil fuels maybe not being such a great thing, I would absolutely subscribe to that. - Mordecai
I lived it! It was more then just the media driving it. Why do you think all the predictions for catastrophe are in 30 years? |
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quackup
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA Joined: 09.29.2014
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To be fair all this article shows is that the media went pretty nuts with the global cooling thing. I'm not arguing that climate change is going to cause the apocalypse tomorrow morning, but that it is something we can't just discount as fake news or some global cabal of scientists trying to dumb down the population and take all the money. I like to think I'm pretty objective and skeptical and if presented with overwhelming evidence that there is no reason to worry about fossil fuels maybe not being such a great thing, I would absolutely subscribe to that. - Mordecai
But that's the point. What is spewed now IS THE EXACT SAME THING that was spewed in the 70's. The exact!!! Now it's warming, then it was cooling. The major difference is now we have the internet, etc., that wasn't around in the 70's. The dire predictions never came true.
The same fears (only warming vs cooling) are happening again, only the distortions are so easily spread now because of the internet. History is only repeating itself. |
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quackup
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA Joined: 09.29.2014
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I lived it! It was more then just the media driving it. Why do you think all the predictions for catastrophe are in 30 years? - arh777
All you have to do is study Saul Alinsky to understand the left, and every hysteria generated by them. |
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