I don't get what you mean that other teams are looking at the Penguins and thinking if they made the playoffs it would, what, be easy to beat them? They have beaten the cream of the east(and Ottawa)for the past 2 years. They came in second overall this year and now have a ton of experience and depth talent to boot. No team should realistically look at them and see them as some kind of easy out.
The Leafs got Kapanan and Rychel for Kessel, not sure how they got Mathews out of that trade?
Phil Kessel is not on the third line and has not been for most of the year.
All those dmen you mentioned are top pairing guys. Maybe you should stop looking up stats and start watching the actual games. You cannot accurately statistically analyze something as chaotic as hockey. If the same play were to start out one way 100 times it would have a different ending 100 times. And how do you quantify defensive play anyways?
- Dcoms

The Penguins are a great team. My point was that their 1st line guy on each line model is really good (they mixed it up in the playoffs, but they still don't have a top six/bottom six setup). Phil Kessel played more w/ Bonino than he did any other player this year.

With their broken D, yeah I think they did get a bit lucky, but they're by no means an easy out.

The idea that you can't accurately measure a game that uses goals to track it's progress is insane on so many levels.

The Leafs flipped a pick from the Penguins for Andersen, They got Matthews because that trade allowed them to finish last.

Those defenseman are all good, but they are people who get routinely called top ten in the game, and that makes them overrated.

What that says is that we're willing to make some sacrifices so that every single person has access to doctors and healthcare. Your party is attempting to take 14 million people off healthcare. That's almost half the population on Canada and we have zero people who are not on healthcare.

So yeah, my rich ass can wait for an MRI so that no one has to go without.
- james_tanner1

That's hogwash James. That has been completely debunked. You're uninformed.

Look at the proposed budget and health care plans from the GOP and it is pretty clear what the priority is. Greed. And while their voters turn their heads away and wait on the so called '"moral" issues that the republicans are sure to eventually deliver on, legislation has been passed that flies in the face of everything that Jesus Christ stood for.


- fattyboubatty

Does it?

"Render unto Casear which is Caesar's" and all.

And aside from that, isn't it covetous to lust after the success of your neighbour and force them to charitable acts (at the threat of violence -jail) rather than allow good works to flow from conscience?

Just sayin'.


Anyways, watching Tanner argue politics is kind of hilarious. Even when I agree with him, in principle, his lack of actual knowledge, consistent leaning on the Authority Fallacy and admission of "not being a political person" really shines through.

Keep it up, though, worth the price of admission.

New day pretty much same content. All food groups covered

- more trump nonsense
- ovy is unlucky
- Gardner is elite
- Josie is not good
- pens have 9 first line players

The mooslim half white half black former president has divided this country more than any other recent president
- rinaldo

Honest question: are you being intentionally racist, or do you really not know how that sounds? I don't mind if you harass me for being a dumb hockey writer, but have some self respect.

Are people who are mixed race treated only half as racist-ly? Is that how you spell Muslim? You need to be better than this.

I know the Fake News media does not cover good things that Trump does but around the world he is making his mark. Unlike Obumma world leaders like Trump and the despised OBUMMA
- holeinone

Yeah Russia and Saudi Arabia Love him awesome

Honest question: are you being intentionally racist, or do you really not know how that sounds. I don't mind if you harass me for being a dumb hockey writer, but have some self respect.

Are people who are mixed race treated only half as racist-ly? Is that how you spell Muslim? You need to be better than this.
- james_tanner1

Hey, we agree on something.

That's hogwash James. That has been completely debunked. You're uninformed.
- MJL

OK then.

OK then.
- james_tanner1

I would guess that you're basing that on the CBO report. Go back and see the CBO report on Obamacare when that was being legislated and see how ridiculously wrong they were.

Here is what I can tell you that is a fact. Passing a healthcare bill that would uninsure that many people would be political suicide for both Trump and the Republican Party. Now that Obamacare is going away, the Republicans own health care and the results. No more excuses. They've got one shot to get this right.

I would guess that you're basing that on the CBO report. Go back and see the CBO report on Obamacare when that was being legislated and see how ridiculously wrong they were.

Here is what I can tell you that is a fact. Passing a healthcare bill that would uninsure that many people would be political suicide for both Trump and the Republican Party. Now that Obamacare is going away, the Republicans own health care and the results. No more excuses. They've got one shot to get this right.
- MJL

This poop is still going on? I've been off here for almost an entire day.

Why can't we all just get along?!?!,!?!??'cnbbwww


On second thought, this is hilarious. Some good points made on both sides. Quite a bit of stupid shot said on both sides and the biggest troll on the site (hole in one) chiming in. And don't forget. FLYRZ SUX!

What that says is that we're willing to make some sacrifices so that every single person has access to doctors and healthcare. Your party is attempting to take 14 million people off healthcare. That's almost half the population on Canada and we have zero people who are not on healthcare.

So yeah, my rich ass can wait for an MRI so that no one has to go without.
- james_tanner1

And the same is available here. Nobody here is denied healthcare. People here are denied health insurance. Healthcare and health insurance are two totally separate things. A homeless person on the street is admitted to the hospital in an emergency.

The amount of fraud and abuse is astronomical. Those individuals that screw the system make it that much harder for everybody else. And the abuse is rampant.

The individual STATES have programs to cover the poor and indigent. Now, admittedly the facilities are not as nice as those of private insurance, but they're available nonetheless.

It's a compassion argument, which I understand, but unless one works in the industry (I do) the information and understanding of medical reinbursement is grossly inaccurate. The media feeds this misinformation. There is always the bleeding heart article that everybody reads, but behind that article often times there's really poor decisions made by that individual that resulted in their hardship.

And lets remember, we're speaking of everyone under the age of 65, because at that age everyone has insurance (medicare). We're talking about adults of working age that don't have insurance. Not anyone 65 and above.

I would guess that you're basing that on the CBO report. Go back and see the CBO report on Obamacare when that was being legislated and see how ridiculously wrong they were.

Here is what I can tell you that is a fact. Passing a healthcare bill that would uninsure that many people would be political suicide for both Trump and the Republican Party. Now that Obamacare is going away, the Republicans own health care and the results. No more excuses. They've got one shot to get this right.
- MJL

The problem is that while it offends you when I say most of their voters are dumb, it is an actual fact that that party capitalizes and cynically courts that very demographic. They have no respect for their party base and fully expect to be supported in what is a massive tax break for the wealthy disguised as a health care bill.

And the same is available here. Nobody here is denied healthcare. People here are denied health insurance. Healthcare and health insurance are two totally separate things. A homeless person on the street is admitted to the hospital in an emergency.

The amount of fraud and abuse is astronomical. Those individuals that screw the system make it that much harder for everybody else. And the abuse is rampant.

The individual STATES have programs to cover the poor and indigent. Now, admittedly the facilities are not as nice as those of private insurance, but they're available nonetheless.

It's a compassion argument, which I understand, but unless one works in the industry (I do) the information and understanding of medical reinbursement is grossly inaccurate. The media feeds this misinformation. There is always the bleeding heart article that everybody reads, but behind that article often times there's really poor decisions made by that individual that resulted in their hardship.

And lets remember, we're speaking of everyone under the age of 65, because at that age everyone has insurance (medicare). We're talking about adults of working age that don't have insurance. Not anyone 65 and above.
- quackup

Poverty is rarely a person's fault. If a poor person gets treatment they can't afford, now they're even poorer then they used to be and that helps no one.

All you have to do is look at the standard of living in Canada and compare it to the USA. We have free healthcare and no gun violence while you have both, and Trump. How's that working out?

The problem is that while it offends you when I say most of their voters are dumb, it is an actual fact that that party capitalizes and cynically courts that very demographic. They have no respect for their party base and fully expect to be supported in what is a massive tax break for the wealthy disguised as a health care bill.
- james_tanner1

You don't make your argument when you name call. And please define "rich" since it seems to be a scourge to you.

Poverty is rarely a person's fault. If a poor person gets treatment they can't afford, now they're even poorer then they used to be and that helps no one.

All you have to do is look at the standard of living in Canada and compare it to the USA. We have free healthcare and no gun violence while you have both, and Trump. How's that working out?
- james_tanner1

You're comparing apples to oranges. You can't take a country with 1/10th the population of one and compare it to the other. That's absurd.

And your statement about poverty is also false. But that's for another blog I'm sure.

The problem is that while it offends you when I say most of their voters are dumb, it is an actual fact that that party capitalizes and cynically courts that very demographic. They have no respect for their party base and fully expect to be supported in what is a massive tax break for the wealthy disguised as a health care bill.
- james_tanner1

Wow Tanner! You really have the Liberal talking points down. When you're talking about pre existing conditions you're not talking about insurance. You don't go buy fire insurance after your house burns down. Obama attempted and partially achieved another entitlement program. Going to be difficult to walk that back however a free market system is the best way.

As for Trump. I have no qualms right now. He's telling it like it is and the liberal left and media are apoplectic over it. Like I've said over and over and over, he's a much better choice than "crooked Hillary."


And unlike the left, I'm willing to give him a chance to see what he can do. If he fails, then he's voted out.

As for Trump. I have no qualms right now. He's telling it like it is and the liberal left and media are apoplectic over it. Like I've said over and over and over, he's a much better choice than "crooked Hillary."


And unlike the left, I'm willing to give him a chance to see what he can do. If he fails, then he's voted out.
- quackup

Already failed.

Poverty is rarely a person's fault. If a poor person gets treatment they can't afford, now they're even poorer then they used to be and that helps no one.

Medicaid and Medicare are there for impoverished people and the elderly (respectively), and do not carry a deductible. You are referring to a section of the upper-lower and lower-middle class (around 20m) that do not wish to purchase private insurance. Furthermore, the ACA has made said "cheap" insurance unreasonable expensive and carries a mind-boggling deductible and limitation clause.

Also, CHIP is there for children.

I work in US and CAN healthcare... and yeah... the amount of presuppositions and myths (like the ones you are espousing) on both sides are ridiculous.

Medicaid and Medicare are there for impoverished people and the elderly (respectively), and do not carry a deductible. You are referring to a section of the upper-lower and lower-middle class (around 20m) that do not wish to purchase private insurance. Furthermore, the ACA has made said "cheap" insurance unreasonable expensive and carries a mind-boggling deductible and limitation clause.

Also, CHIP is there for children.

I work in US and CAN healthcare... and yeah... the amount of presuppositions and myths (like the ones you are espousing) on both sides are ridiculous.
- OzBolts

Are you on a death panel?

The problem is that while it offends you when I say most of their voters are dumb, it is an actual fact that that party capitalizes and cynically courts that very demographic. They have no respect for their party base and fully expect to be supported in what is a massive tax break for the wealthy disguised as a health care bill.
- james_tanner1

James, nothing you do offends me. You simply don't matter that much. This is just entertainment to pass the time. You're credibility on stating what is an actual fact is in the toilet. You have zero standing to state that anything is a fact. You claim your opinions as facts on a regular basis.

Poverty is rarely a person's fault. If a poor person gets treatment they can't afford, now they're even poorer then they used to be and that helps no one.

All you have to do is look at the standard of living in Canada and compare it to the USA. We have free healthcare and no gun violence while you have both, and Trump. How's that working out?
- james_tanner1

James, how much does Canada spend on defense and their military compared to the US? After you answer that, then I'll ask you why that is!

Already failed.
- james_tanner1

Trump failed in your eyes before he was even sworn in. I'm just happy you don't have a vote in US elections.

Medicaid and Medicare are there for impoverished people and the elderly (respectively), and do not carry a deductible. You are referring to a section of the upper-lower and lower-middle class (around 20m) that do not wish to purchase private insurance. Furthermore, the ACA has made said "cheap" insurance unreasonable expensive and carries a mind-boggling deductible and limitation clause.

Also, CHIP is there for children.

I work in US and CAN healthcare... and yeah... the amount of presuppositions and myths (like the ones you are espousing) on both sides are ridiculous.
- OzBolts

What are you talking about? I don't recall even commenting on medicade? I don't really care what you think, but Poverty is almost never a person's fault and is almost always the result of a cycle they are born into.

James, how much does Canada spend on defense and their military compared to the US? After you answer that, then I'll ask you why that is!
- MJL

Oh no, don't go there. He'll have some diatribe full of misinformation to spew. Bottom line is the US protects Canada. A ten year old knows that.

What are you talking about? I don't recall even commenting on medicade? I don't really care what you think, but Poverty is almost never a person's fault and is almost always the result of a cycle they are born into.
- james_tanner1

Nice switch. The topic was healthcare/health insurance. Not poverty. You don't care about medicade, but was was pointed out, that's health insurance for the impoverished.

And one may be born into poverty, but it's the persons choice to remain in poverty. Huge difference. And if you believe otherwise, you've been truly brainwashed.