Well what's he going to say?
I traded for Bogo & Kane, but I used to hate them?
I'd think that's true of any GM
Murray just was very open about it
- jdfitz77

You said it yourself, trade for the right guys. Not because you loved them when you were working on another team but because you believe they are the right fit for the team that currently employs you.

special teams don't matter
- homiedclown

A new coach would really have to try to screw our PP up
We might not be #1 again, but we have really good talent that plays great together... the PP should continue to be more than effective, whoever the new coach is

Well what's he going to say?
I traded for Bogo & Kane, but I used to hate them?
I'd think that's true of any GM
Murray just was very open about it
- jdfitz77

murray IMO went into panic mode

tried to do 4 years of rebuild in 2 and made wrong moves

You said it yourself, trade for the right guys. Not because you loved them when you were working on another team but because you believe they are the right fit for the team that currently employs you.
- Sabresfan-365

Why wouldn't both be true?

Why wouldn't both be true?
- jdfitz77

they could be, but in his case it wasnt at least imo.


In this dumoulin example it might be though

A new coach would really have to try to screw our PP up
We might not be #1 again, but we have really good talent that plays great together... the PP should continue to be more than effective, whoever the new coach is
- jdfitz77

agreed

but our pk was decent the year before

Legwand effect

murray IMO went into panic mode

tried to do 4 years of rebuild in 2 and made wrong moves
- homiedclown

Whether that's true or not,
It's a different point then we were discussing

He said he was nervous about bringing in Dumoulin bc of Murray bringing in his guys from Ottawa

Can we all observe a moment of silence for the great Hockeydabeast who has just been banned from ustream for copyright infringement.

(frank) the NHL.

special teams don't matter
- homiedclown

Or as Gerbe would say "lirl".

they could be, but in his case it wasnt at least

In this dumoulin example it might be though
- Sabresfan-365

Idk...
Kane & O'Reilly worked out just fine
Bogosian didn't
Kulikov (who I'm not sure if he referenced in the way u we're talking about) was hurt & didn't work out probably bc of the injury
Lehner worked out, just an overpayment
Fasching is still tbd

Besides Bogosian...
I don't see where Murray blatantly screwed up on a guy he liked for years

Can we all observe a moment of silence for the great Hockeydabeast who has just been banned from ustream for copyright infringement.

(frank) the NHL.
- Wetbandit1

Huh?

Idk...
Kane & O'Reilly worked out just fine
Bogosian didn't
Kulikov (who I'm not sure if he referenced in the way u we're talking about) was hurt & didn't work out probably bc of the injury
Lehner worked out, just an overpayment
Fasching is still tbd

Besides Bogosian...
I don't see where Murray blatantly screwed up on a guy he liked for years
- jdfitz77

Differing opinions here on who worked out. But its indisputable that he overpaid for players not because they were the right fit but because he personally liked their playing style when he was an AGM in ottawa. Building a team like that is probably not a good idea.

Just what they are known for. We don't have any identity.
- sbroads24

What are they "known for" in your opinion?

Idk if most teams have a specific identity

Huh?
- jdfitz77

Think he means that a guy who streams the games on that site has been banned from doing so going forward.

I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often now that MLB is in charge of all the NHL's video work. People that think the NHL is bad should check out MLB's absurd rules. You get popped for making a gif.

Huh?
- jdfitz77

My good streaming source just got banned.

Differing opinions here on who worked out. But its indisputable that he overpaid for players not because they were the right fit but because he personally liked their playing style when he was an AGM in ottawa. Building a team like that is probably not a good idea.
- Sabresfan-365

Any new GM is gonna go to a team & have the exact same opinion on players as he did with his old team
For the most part at least
Obviously some players games change
But I don't expect J Botts (or whoever) to suddenly have new opinions on everyone

Think he means that a guy who streams the games on that site has been banned from doing so going forward.

I'm surprised it hasn't happened more often now that MLB is in charge of all the NHL's video work. People that think the NHL is bad should check out MLB's absurd rules. You get popped for making a gif.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, a lot of people were worried about the gif thing, but they're way more lax about it with hockey.

Differing opinions here on who worked out. But its indisputable that he overpaid for players not because they were the right fit but because he personally liked their playing style when he was an AGM in ottawa. Building a team like that is probably not a good idea.
- Sabresfan-365

you don't think the players he coveted and acquired fit the idea of how he wanted his team built?

My good streaming source just got banned.
- Wetbandit1

Ohhhhh... gotcha
That blows

(frank) Sh!tsburgh!

porter got his name on the cup last year


he needs to play one game in finals to get his name this year

same for ruhwedel
- homiedclown

It's dumb that u have to play a game in the finals
What about injuries, etc?
I think 1 playoff game should be enough
Or a certain number of Reg season games

Wooooooo!

Freddy Hockey!!!

Ohhhhh... gotcha
That blows
- jdfitz77

There are more, but he/she was one of the most reliable.

Freddy Hockey!!!
- Wetbandit1

Crumble. Blame GMTM