Trade him.. Great joy division tune

The problem is that all Ovie does is shoot and run players from behind. He will NEVER be the guy who sacrafices his body to win a battle for a puck. Because of the curve on his stick he also can't go to his backhand well and pass. He lost a step this year and because of it D men can be more aggressive and force him to try and beat them wide, taking away the shot. As a result he takes more shots from further out, reducing his shooting %.

That's why they should be open to trading him. He is really good at shooting the puck, but lacks the willingness or intelligence to play the game the right way. +$9.5M is too much cap hit for a one trick pony whose trick is starting to deteriorate.

ovie isn't a winner

The problem is that all Ovie does is shoot and run players from behind. He will NEVER be the guy who sacrafices his body to win a battle for a puck. Because of the curve on his stick he also can't go to his backhand well and pass. He lost a step this year and because of it D men can be more aggressive and force him to try and beat them wide, taking away the shot. As a result he takes more shots from further out, reducing his shooting %.

That's why they should be open to trading him. He is really good at shooting the puck, but lacks the willingness or intelligence to play the game the right way. +$9.5M is too much cap hit for a one trick pony whose trick is starting to deteriorate.
- MacPatty

I love the fact that you just criticized the intelligence of the best goal scorer to ever play the game (with only one possible exception).

I do not think Ovechkin has had his last 50 goal season. Let's not forget that had his shot not hit the shaft of the goalie stick, Ovechkin comes up huge in game seven and is likely still playing. Thus turning the entire course of the idea that he's somehow finished.
- james_tanner1

Ah, Tanner math.

Ovie misses a goal in a 2-0 loss, but if it had gone in, the Capitals would have likely won.

Trade Ovi to the 'Hawks for Kaner, straight up.

Trade Ovi to the 'Hawks for Kaner, straight up.
- blackhawk24

Kane > ovi

Every day of the week


Also, I think backstrom is their best player.
Ovie is certainly that rare snipe and is so big and powerful he can really be unstoppable some nights, but he comes off extremely one dimensional far too often.

I'm not advocating deal him in the least, but I'd trade him Before either of backstrom or kuznetzov

"We know for a fact that shooters have no control over their shooting percentage. "

I didn't think even you could be this ridiculous.

Hey did you notice that Ovy had so few scoring chances in relation to his shot totals? I wonder if it's because he fires the puck from anywhere at anytime even if it has very little chance of going in the net? I wonder if that is the reason his shooting percentage is so low?

Ah, Tanner math.

Ovie misses a goal in a 2-0 loss, but if it had gone in, the Capitals would have likely won.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well that would have tied it up - I am pretty sure, maybe my memory is betraying me - the point is I had to watch/read a hundred "does OV suck in big games?" type crap which misses the point completely.

"We know for a fact that shooters have no control over their shooting percentage. "

I didn't think even you could be this ridiculous.

Hey did you notice that Ovy had so few scoring chances in relation to his shot totals? I wonder if it's because he fires the puck from anywhere at anytime even if it has very little chance of going in the net? I wonder if that is the reason his shooting percentage is so low?
- Njuice

Shooting percentage fluctuations are not controllable by players and they vary, seemingly at random.

Obviously different types of shooters will have varying rates (guys who rarely shoot often have high %) but that doens't negate the fact that Ovechkin, a 10% career shooter just had a 7% season.

I swear, 100% of the time I get the "I didn't think you could be this stupid" crap, it's from people who either misunderstood what I was saying or are just completely disjointed from reality.

Kane > ovi

Every day of the week


Also, I think backstrom is their best player.
Ovie is certainly that rare snipe and is so big and powerful he can really be unstoppable some nights, but he comes off extremely one dimensional far too often.

I'm not advocating deal him in the least, but I'd trade him Before either of backstrom or kuznetzov
- HB77

I don't see how Backstrom can be their best player, but you're certainly entitled to that opinion. Ovechkin should have scored 40 or 50 goals this year, and no one would be questioning his superiority.

I think that people do not realize how good Ovechkin is, or just how perfect your defense, how many assists you'd have to get, how strong your possession would have to be etc etc etc in order to make up for all the shots/scoring chances/goals.


He may not be the most complete player, but he consistently scores goals and that is the one thing in the NHL almost no one can do.

I don't see how Backstrom can be their best player, but you're certainly entitled to that opinion. Ovechkin should have scored 40 or 50 goals this year, and no one would be questioning his superiority.

I think that people do not realize how good Ovechkin is, or just how perfect your defense, how many assists you'd have to get, how strong your possession would have to be etc etc etc in order to make up for all the shots/scoring chances/goals.


He may not be the most complete player, but he consistently scores goals and that is the one thing in the NHL almost no one can do.
- james_tanner1

Center position.
Playmaker.
Qb of that line

Top 5 in scoring this year.

Over the past half decade backstrom has pretty much attained those assists you speak of . Pretty strong possession too

It's debateable no doubt, dude is a pure goal scorer. I just think the two centers they got are elite and the caps offence runs through them.

Center position.
Playmaker.
Qb of that line

Top 5 in scoring this year.

Over the past half decade backstrom has pretty much attained those assists you speak of . Pretty strong possession too

It's debateable no doubt, dude is a pure goal scorer. I just think the two centers they got are elite and the caps offence runs through them.
- HB77

I do agree. I just think you can't replace Ovechkin and what he does is much rarer than what either NB or EK do.

I love the fact that you just criticized the intelligence of the best goal scorer to ever play the game (with only one possible exception).
- james_tanner1

Yes, he is really good at waiting for guys to feed him on one timers and has a wicked wrister. He absolutely has one of the most wicked shots of all time. But after 10+ years in the league he still has no idea how to play away from the puck.

I also love the fact that you said the following:

"We know for a fact that shooters have no control over their shooting percentage. "

GOD NO, DON'T TRADE HIM! The Penguins like him right where he is thank you. I mean; with his money better spent on additions and the bright future for a couple budding stars already there like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky, that could be a bad thing for the Penguins. No. Keep Mr. Left Circle Wicked Wrister right where he is please. In fact, I think a contract extension is a smart move.

Well I didn't say he couldn't get traded, I just said they shouldn't do it.
- james_tanner1

Oh. Apologies.

GOD NO, DON'T TRADE HIM! The Penguins like him right where he is thank you. I mean; with his money better spent on additions and the bright future for a couple budding stars already there like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky, that could be a bad thing for the Penguins. No. Keep Mr. Left Circle Wicked Wrister right where he is please. In fact, I think a contract extension is a smart move.
- NJPensfan

This is gold!

i wouldnt trade ovechkin bc of his lack of playoff success. his supporting cast hasnt exactly helped him over the years. last year when pens beat the caps crosby and malkin got out scored by ovi (thats 87+71 had less points) but their supporting cast won for them. caps will win a cup itll probably be a year were they sneak in as a 1wc or a 3rd seed. look at the playoffs currently

pens beat cbj 5 games
pens go up 3-1 on caps go to game 7
pens (who imo should have bet sens in 5) went to game 7 2ot

they are losing steam def due to injuries but if caps dont have to play them both years in 2nd round it could be different results. but if my aunt had a dic k she would be my uncle

If you guys can trade for a legit #1 Dman, then maybe you should think about it... since that's a major need.

No, and it was painfully obvious he was limited in the playoffs this year by the Kadri hit. Dude didnt carry the puck at all or attack with speed after that hit. He hasn't won yet but trading an elite goal scorer is an overreaction to the result of the playoff loss this year.

Trade Ovie for Weber and watch Tanner have the greatest meltdown in the history of internet meltdowns.

When you have so many playoff disappointments, maybe they should look for different chemistry.

I agree with a couple others... If they truly want to shake up their team, trade Backstrom. Maybe a deal centered around Backstrom/Duchene with other components.

Kane > ovi

Every day of the week


Also, I think backstrom is their best player.
Ovie is certainly that rare snipe and is so big and powerful he can really be unstoppable some nights, but he comes off extremely one dimensional far too often.

I'm not advocating deal him in the least, but I'd trade him Before either of backstrom or kuznetzov
- HB77

I know Kaner is better, hence the red text. Interesting Backstrom point.

GOD NO, DON'T TRADE HIM! The Penguins like him right where he is thank you. I mean; with his money better spent on additions and the bright future for a couple budding stars already there like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky, that could be a bad thing for the Penguins. No. Keep Mr. Left Circle Wicked Wrister right where he is please. In fact, I think a contract extension is a smart move.
- NJPensfan

I hear Erat is looking for a team.....