There are a lot of varying opinions of ceci in this fan base.
I'm of the opinion that he's a train wreck who's development has stalled.....but because of where he was drafted and the contract they gave him, management/ownership are too stuborn to give up on him because of the "what if".........similar to what we had to endure with cowen.
- sensarmy_11

Management/ownership are under no obligation to give Ceci the 2nd most minutes of anyone on the team. That said, given that he's going into the 2nd year of his bridge contract, I wouldn't be surprised if his name came up in virtually every trade rumour the team is involved with between now and the draft.

Management/ownership are under no obligation to give Ceci the 2nd most minutes of anyone on the team. That said, given that he's going into the 2nd year of his bridge contract, I wouldn't be surprised if his name came up in virtually every trade rumour the team is involved with between now and the draft.
- khawk

They gave cowen a poop ton of no minutes too.......right up until he was hurt and traded

As long as Ottawa has Karlsson, they will compete for the Cup.

On to next season.

What were people's thoughts on Wideman this playoffs?

I thought he was passed by Claessen, and perhaps will be by Harpur .

At least there's Rick and Morty season 3.. oh.. wait..

On a real note.. what the (frank)? when is the rest of the season gonna drop!?!?
- j.boyd919

June!

What were people's thoughts on Wideman this playoffs?

I thought he was passed by Claessen, and perhaps will be by Harpur .
- david22

I think he was very unimpressive......probably the worst of our 6 dmen on most nights.

He was EASILY surpassed by claessen ( but I also think claessen played better than most of our dmen)

What were people's thoughts on Wideman this playoffs?
I thought he was passed by Claessen, and perhaps will be by Harpur .
- david22

Claesson really impressed me, and I'd actually suggest that Harpur has already showed that he can handle bigger minutes. Wideman serves a useful depth role as a RH-shot with some decent 2nd unit PP ability, but that 3rd pairing role seems like the limit of his potential. I'm not sure I see him being in the fold past next year, but it may depend on the expansion draft outcome.

As long as Ottawa has Karlsson, they will compete for the Cup.

On to next season.
- TheCalSen

like last season?

prior to this season, he's only ever been on a team that's won a playoff series once in his career.

proclaiming them perennial contenders because he's on the team is a little counter to logic no? hell, they really only won one series against a full team this year, and lost to a team completely battered by injuries. who still soundly outplayed the sens, outshooting them on average 34 to 28 (which is a bigger average margin than the worst team in the league in the regular season). thank God for a heroic performance from your goalie right? if anything I would think that would make you realize just how far the sens are from being a real contender. like maybe 2 elite forwards and another top dman? plus replace your aging goalie?

there really are maybe only 4 or 5 true contenders a year. the sens were not one.

like last season?

prior to this season, he's only ever been on a team that's won a playoff series once in his career.

proclaiming them perennial contenders because he's on the team is a little counter to logic no? hell, they really only won one series against a full team this year, and lost to a team completely battered by injuries. who still soundly outplayed the sens, outshooting them on average 34 to 28 (which is a bigger average margin than the worst team in the league in the regular season). thank God for a heroic performance from your goalie right? if anything I would think that would make you realize just how far the sens are from being a real contender. like maybe 2 elite forwards and another top dman? plus replace your aging goalie?

there really are maybe only 4 or 5 true contenders a year. the sens were not one.
- prock

I said this in the Pens thread when it was 2-2, this is the year for the Sens - bar no other. They had been given a prime opportunity rarely seen to get to the SCF by playing a team absolutely hammered by injury - granted their own team wasn't 100%. This was the year.

I had another poster tell me he thought while EK was playing & the Sens young guys coming through could play with this current group then their window was open. I disagree. As Matt said earlier, Tampa, Florida & the Habs will all rebound & in doing so make it harder for the Sens to get this far. As good as this season has been for them, I think it's an opportunity - their opportunity to win the Cup. Just my opinion.

like last season?

prior to this season, he's only ever been on a team that's won a playoff series once in his career.

proclaiming them perennial contenders because he's on the team is a little counter to logic no? hell, they really only won one series against a full team this year, and lost to a team completely battered by injuries. who still soundly outplayed the sens, outshooting them on average 34 to 28 (which is a bigger average margin than the worst team in the league in the regular season). thank God for a heroic performance from your goalie right? if anything I would think that would make you realize just how far the sens are from being a real contender. like maybe 2 elite forwards and another top dman? plus replace your aging goalie?

there really are maybe only 4 or 5 true contenders a year. the sens were not one.
- prock

So do you consider the Pens a contender now?... I Remember yourself and I getting in a little tizzy on the Pens blog becuase you said the Pens were definitely not contenders this year.

I think there is so much parity in the league now any team that makes the playoffs can be considered a contender.
Ottawa takes Pittsburgh to double overtime in game 7
Leafs take Washington to 6 games with 5 going to overtime
Oilers push Ducks to 7 games

With the team defense Ottawa played they could go deep next year, OR not make the playoffs at all. There is not much to choose between teams with the salary cap in place.
I think that is a good thing and gives fans hope, unlike the NBA and even baseball to a lesser extent.
In any case a great run by the Sens who showed a ton of grit right through the playoffs. Very impressive.

So do you consider the Pens a contender now?... I Remember yourself and I getting in a little tizzy on the Pens blog becuase you said the Pens were definitely not contenders this year.
- MattStrat

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I don't think I ever would have said that. I said they weren't the favourite, without Letang. Letang in my opinion is the best two way dman in the east. losing him is a huge blow.

but you'd have to show me what post you're referring to. I'm pretty sure yours thinking of someone else.

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I don't think I ever would have said that. I said they weren't the favourite, without Letang. Letang in my opinion is the best two way dman in the east. losing him is a huge blow.

but you'd have to show me what post you're referring to. I'm pretty sure yours thinking of someone else.
- prock

It was in the comments of this blog....

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=84294

like last season?

prior to this season, he's only ever been on a team that's won a playoff series once in his career.

proclaiming them perennial contenders because he's on the team is a little counter to logic no? hell, they really only won one series against a full team this year, and lost to a team completely battered by injuries. who still soundly outplayed the sens, outshooting them on average 34 to 28 (which is a bigger average margin than the worst team in the league in the regular season). thank God for a heroic performance from your goalie right? if anything I would think that would make you realize just how far the sens are from being a real contender. like maybe 2 elite forwards and another top dman? plus replace your aging goalie?

there really are maybe only 4 or 5 true contenders a year. the sens were not one.
- prock

Hey look its prock who said the bruins would beat the sens, then he said the rangers would ruin us, and the pens were gonna sweep us. Sorry youre opinion on anything sens holds no value to anyone on this forum.

There are a lot of varying opinions of ceci in this fan base.

I'm of the opinion that he's a train wreck who's development has stalled.....but because of where he was drafted and the contract they gave him, management/ownership are too stuborn to give up on him because of the "what if".........similar to what we had to endure with cowen.

I don't think he's cowen level bad but I don't think he's one of the 4 best down in this organization moving forward (meaning I think there are 4-5 guys who are either better right now or will be very soon.)
- sensarmy_11

I think he is your Jake Gardiner. The Leafs were patient with Gardiner and he was their best defenseman this season. He was excellent in the playoffs.

Too early to give up on Ceci. You have to hold on to him.

I think he is your Jake Gardiner. The Leafs were patient with Gardiner and he was their best defenseman this season. He was excellent in the playoffs.

Too early to give up on Ceci. You have to hold on to him.
- Aetherial

I'm not saying give up on him........but the team seems to think he's an "untouchable" guy (if you believe the rumours of trades for him that ottawa has turned down) and he has never shown that he's good enough to be considered that.

I don't want to give up on him but if a trade comes up for him that makes this team better I wouldn't bat an eye if they moved him......hes easily replaceable IMO

I think he is your Jake Gardiner. The Leafs were patient with Gardiner and he was their best defenseman this season. He was excellent in the playoffs.

Too early to give up on Ceci. You have to hold on to him.
- Aetherial

Gardiner was pretty great for the Leafs in the playoffs.

It was in the comments of this blog....

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=84294
- MattStrat

okay. sobi said it's Washington's to lose. and IF both Letang and Malkin are out, they're not contwnders. with Malkin back in, its doubtful. that implies still possible if only letang is out doesnt it?

so Washington lost it. Malkin was not out though, so I never ruled them out as contenders.

I basically said its tough to match up with the top teams like Chicago and Washington without Letang. with those two gone, doesn't me saying Pittsburgh is now the favourite, fit in quite nicely?

edit also forgot about hedman. best two way dman in the east.

okay. sobi said it's Washington's to lose. and IF both Letang and Malkin are out, they're not contwnders. with Malkin back in, its doubtful. that implies still possible if only letang is out doesnt it?

so Washington lost it. Malkin was not out though, so I never ruled them out as contenders.

I basically said its tough to match up with the top teams like Chicago and Washington without Letang. with those two gone, doesn't me saying Pittsburgh is now the favourite, fit in quite nicely?

edit also forgot about hedman. best two way dman in the east.
- prock

okay. sobi said it's Washington's to lose. and IF both Letang and Malkin are out, they're not contwnders. with Malkin back in, its doubtful. that implies still possible if only letang is out doesnt it?

so Washington lost it. Malkin was not out though, so I never ruled them out as contenders.

I basically said its tough to match up with the top teams like Chicago and Washington without Letang. with those two gone, doesn't me saying Pittsburgh is now the favourite, fit in quite nicely?

edit also forgot about hedman. best two way dman in the east.
- prock

When will your hatred ever end

Karlsson is THE best defenseman in the league, bar none..... offensively, blocked shots, d-zone coverage, PK, PP.....

When are you finally going to admit it???? When he wins 5 Norris's????

When will your hatred ever end

Karlsson is THE best defenseman in the league, bar none..... offensively, blocked shots, d-zone coverage, PK, PP.....

When are you finally going to admit it???? When he wins 5 Norris's????
- SensnRBs

I'm glad you think so.

I'm glad you think so.
- prock

I personally don't think he's the best overall defenseman, but the best offensive defenseman yes but he has come along way and my respect has too !for his playoff performance, He showed great strides in wearing the C,and I believe that next year possibly and beyond that he will be the best!imho, also didn't lidstom win most if not all his Norris trophies after 30?if so that bodes very well for this young man and team!..again great run!some kids in the pipeline!very exciting times for sens fans! best of luck in the offseason!...p.s . maybe /hopefully melnek opens his wallet! The fans and team franking definitely deserve it!

I personally don't think he's the best overall defenseman, but the best offensive defenseman yes but he has come along way and my respect has too !for his playoff performance, He showed great strides in wearing the C,and I believe that next year possibly and beyond that he will be the best!imho, also didn't lidstom win most if not all his Norris trophies after 30?if so that bodes very well for this young man and team!..again great run!some kids in the pipeline!very exciting times for sens fans! best of luck in the offseason!...p.s . maybe /hopefully melnek opens his wallet! The fans and team franking definitely deserve it!
- MR.Hunter

he definitely is the best offensive defenseman. and he certainly was better than his past performances defensively this season.

he definitely is the best offensive defenseman. and he certainly was better than his past performances defensively this season.
- prock

See..... you're coming around

See..... you're coming around
- SensnRBs

Nobody can tale an impartial look at him and not recognize the talent there.