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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
Ty. You can't always trust 2nd hand information.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Anton lander, we hardly knew you.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 11:26 AM ET
Anton lander, we hardly knew you.
- Tumbleweed

We knew him plenty well. In the AHL. The only place he was good.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 25 @ 11:27 AM ET
We knew him plenty well. In the AHL. The only place he was good.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



anton lander, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

May 25 @ 11:33 AM ET
What a great problem to have! I'd take any one of those 5 Dmen on my team.

I have a feeling Bieksa won't waive.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 25 @ 11:43 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Which defenseman should the Anaheim Ducks trade?
- ToddCordellVAN



Agree with trading Vatanen. I'd keep Lindholm, Fowler and Manson.

Frenchie >>>
HamiltonHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.13.2015

May 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
Maybe Bieska walking down the street not looking at the cross lights an WAMO BAMO suddenly no need to protect him . Not saying I want it to happen but it could......give me a call Mr Murry
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 25 @ 12:03 PM ET
If Fowler is looking for 8/$56 he would be the one I'd move. Not to say he isn't a great player but that is a lot of money.

Toronto or Edmonton would be obvious fits but there are a lot of teams that would be interested.

Buffalo would probably be in the conversation and Kane is the type of power forward Anaheim seems to love.



SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

May 25 @ 12:21 PM ET
Nope. He did not.
- James_Tanner


No you didn't. But you did say that Cody Franson was better than Risto, and you compared Risto to Josi and Fowler, ergo, latin, you must think Franson is better than Josi and Fowler, no?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
RHD seem to be flavor most teams crave - so that would make Vats the most logical choice - this is assuming Cam has a reasonable request on contract -
Tampa / Rangers / Wings & Leafs - seem most logical choices -
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

May 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
What a great problem to have! I'd take any one of those 5 Dmen on my team.

I have a feeling Bieksa won't waive.

- JLO961


no problem, then he will be bought out.
kingsfan626
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Ontario, CA
Joined: 12.12.2013

May 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
I would move Fowler only because you can get a much better return and will have cap issues to worry about.
RedDog18
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 25 @ 12:29 PM ET
RHD seem to be flavor most teams crave - so that would make Vats the most logical choice - this is assuming Cam has a reasonable request on contract -
Tampa / Rangers / Wings & Leafs - seem most logical choices -

- dozerD10


Detroit would give their right nut to get Fowler. They would market him as another "local boy" and would be the best defenseman the team has had since Lidstrom retired.

The only problem is the Wings most likely won't have the assets Anaheim's looking for to acquire Fowler.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 12:31 PM ET
Last 3 seasons 5v5 SZV adjusted numbers:

Player A (Pending UFA)

G60: 0.15
P160: 0.40
RelCF%: 4.07
RelFF%: 4.27
RelxGF%: 3.03
RelSCF%: 1.59

Cam Fowler

G60: 0.14
P160: 0.44
RelCF%: -1.55
RelFF%: -1.48
RelxGF%: -1.48
RelSCF%: -0.47

Any guesses on who Player A is?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 12:31 PM ET
Detroit would give their right nut to get Fowler. They would market him as another "local boy" and would be the best defenseman the team has had since Lidstrom retired.

The only problem is the Wings most likely won't have the assets Anaheim's looking for to acquire Fowler.

- RedDog18

LMAO Green would still be their best D man.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 12:32 PM ET
RHD seem to be flavor most teams crave - so that would make Vats the most logical choice - this is assuming Cam has a reasonable request on contract -
Tampa / Rangers / Wings & Leafs - seem most logical choices -

- dozerD10

You can have Helm and a 2nd for Fowler.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
Last 3 seasons 5v5 SZV adjusted numbers:

Player A (Pending UFA)

G60: 0.15
P160: 0.40
RelCF%: 4.07
RelFF%: 4.27
RelxGF%: 3.03
RelSCF%: 1.59

Cam Fowler

G60: 0.14
P160: 0.44
RelCF%: -1.55
RelFF%: -1.48
RelxGF%: -1.48
RelSCF%: -0.47

Any guesses on who Player A is?

- Feds91Stammer


I'm gonna say player is Cody Franson and Player B is Fowler. The problem with guys who pad their stats on the PP is they aren't really creating offense their team wouldn't get anyway.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
You can have Helm and a 2nd for Fowler.
- Feds91Stammer


Larkin for Fowler & Max Jones -
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
I'm gonna say player is Cody Franson and Player B is Fowler. The problem with guys who pad their stats on the PP is they aren't really creating offense their team wouldn't get anyway.
- James_Tanner



The problem with that entire theory is basing it upon that a certain player doesn't control or QB the power play.

We have seen teams full of star studded super stars up front have a terrible PP because they don't have the one player control the line. Which is where the term PP QB came from when it comes to describing defensemen. So to say that team would be getting those goals without said player is a terrible take.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
No you didn't. But you did say that Cody Franson was better than Risto, and you compared Risto to Josi and Fowler, ergo, latin, you must think Franson is better than Josi and Fowler, no?
- SDSabre


I don't agree with Tanner or most things, but the logic you used here is awful.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 25 @ 1:02 PM ET
Larkin for Fowler & Max Jones -
- dozerD10

Does that price drop if Max Jones ends up being incarcerated for an on-ice incident?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
Does that price drop if Max Jones ends up being incarcerated for an on-ice incident?
- eichiefs9


they get Max Power instead
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
they get Max Power instead
- Tumbleweed


He's the man with name you want to touch, but you mustn't touch! His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it, you mustn't fear, 'cause his name can be said by anyone.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

May 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Does that price drop if Max Jones ends up being incarcerated for an on-ice incident?
- eichiefs9


It's been awhile since I've seen or heard of a guy in Jr. getting 2 -10 plus game suspensions -
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
He's the man with name you want to touch, but you mustn't touch! His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it, you mustn't fear, 'cause his name can be said by anyone.
- jmatchett383

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
I'm gonna say player is Cody Franson and Player B is Fowler. The problem with guys who pad their stats on the PP is they aren't really creating offense their team wouldn't get anyway.
- James_Tanner

Player A is Brendan Smith.
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