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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 9:28 AM ET
Uninformed opinion stated as fact.

Strome projects to be a star player, #1 centre allstar. He isn't going to enter the NHL like that, as almost no one does, but come on. I love how you say he's 'prone to cheating defensively' when that is in no way your observation, nor anyone elses. If you said that about a player who scored 2 points a game it would be ridiculous - if he cheats defensively its because he can and because he's playing in a league that isn't worthy of him.

And he was definitely ready last year. Unfortunately, people just assume NHL teams are infallible and all their decisions are correct. The real truth is that Arizona is woefully conservative with their prospects, possibly out of fear of having to pay them sooner. I can only go on my personal experience, but it seems to me its better to struggle in a harder league than make a joke out of an easy one.

- James_Tanner



The bolded should be the title of every single one of your blogs.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
You make it sound like that happens on a regular basis
- kinigitt



It is. Kadri, Gagner, Gardiner.....the list goes on.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:31 AM ET
Strome is never going to win the Calder. You can't put those kind of points up playing 10 minutes a night. Tippett is never going to take any of Shane Doan's 20+ minutes a night away for a rookie
- leafsfann



Leave the happy face off and this is a near perfect joke.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:33 AM ET
Calm down a little here James. You can defend Strome without going full fanboy mode.

He has done nothing in the NHL yet. Many players looked great in juniors only to fail at the NHL level.
You are already suggesting he projects to be an allstar! Nothing I have seen from Strome leads me to believe he is a comparable player to John Scott.

- Thecakeisalie



So the #3 overall pick, with size, vision and over two points per game in junior does not project to be those things? That isn't being a fanboy (which is a dumb word 12 year olds use) it's a rational assessment of the facts. He might be a bust, as almost anyone might be. But he also could be a franchise player.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:34 AM ET
Who scores more points in the NHL next year...Dylan Strome or Nolan Patrick?
- Glak18



Strome almost certainly. Not sure Patrick goes straight to the NHL.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:36 AM ET
who gormley and rundblad?

franson top pairing dman?

come on peeps what other Tanner player predictions was he spot on with!!! luke schenn?

- rinaldo



Was correct about Schenn. Still maintain both Rundblad and Gormley could be NHL players - Rundblad actually put up excellent stats - and Cody Franson is one of the most under-utilized and underrated players in the NHL. My record is nearly unimpeachable.

I was definitely wrong about Pikke Rinne being finished, I was wrong about Stamkos being in heavy decline (though I still wouldn't have signed him) wrong about Hunwick and Polak to some extent. Right about Druin. Definitely wrong about Stone and Murphy. But better than 50/50 anyways.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:38 AM ET
Projects to be a star player... I actually watch junior games. He sits high in his own zone and relies too much on individual skill to win his battles. Skills great, good positioning is a requirement in the NHL.

He should've been in the AHL not junior that we can agree on. There have been so many junior phenoms that couldn't crack the NHL predicated on my above statements.

Struggling in the NHL can be hugely detrimental to a players development. This is not conjecture, this is fact.

- MarkStoned



Sorry, but I'm going to take the word of people I trust, which is pretty much the opposite of this. Honestly seems like he wouldn't sign your autograph or something.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 9:40 AM ET
The bolded should be the title of every single one of your blogs.
- Scabeh



When you consider that Dave Poulin, Craig Button, Pierre McGuire, and Jeff O'neil make some pretty heavy money doing what I do but worse, I think my record is actually awesome. Though I did set myself up for that one, no doubt.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 25 @ 9:50 AM ET
The bolded should be the title of every single one of your blogs.
- Scabeh


ouch!




kinda true though!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 25 @ 9:53 AM ET
When you consider that Dave Poulin, Craig Button, Pierre McGuire, and Jeff O'neil make some pretty heavy money doing what I do but worse, I think my record is actually awesome. Though I did set myself up for that one, no doubt.
- James_Tanner



they do... but with some "slightly different" credentials.

Poulin and O'Neil both had lengthy good careers. Both Button and McGuire, while ridiculed for their opinions have been around the game for a long time and have worked inside it.

They haven't earned their "heavy money" without earning some credibility.

Hanging your hat on interpreting clearly immature fancy stats ain't going to get you free tickets.
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

May 25 @ 10:06 AM ET
When you consider that Dave Poulin, Craig Button, Pierre McGuire, and Jeff O'neil make some pretty heavy money doing what I do but worse, I think my record is actually awesome. Though I did set myself up for that one, no doubt.
- James_Tanner


I can smell the smug from here.

Though I have to say, the character you play on the internet is a fantastic persona- it certainly gets hits.
EugenesAxe
Location: G-Town, ON
Joined: 02.18.2010

May 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
The problem with Dylan Strome, like his older brother Ryan and younger draft eligible brother is that neither is a good enough skater to create time and space in the NHL.
Ryan Strome was a high pick 6 years ago and has plateaued as a player. Likely never raising above 3-4th line status.

No doubt if the Coyotes had a do over they would have picked Marner, Or Provorov, Hanifan, Werenski or even Konecny before Strome
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

May 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
The problem with Dylan Strome, like his older brother Ryan and younger draft eligible brother is that neither is a good enough skater to create time and space in the NHL.
Ryan Strome was a high pick 6 years ago and has plateaued as a player. Likely never raising above 3-4th line status.

No doubt if the Coyotes had a do over they would have picked Marner, Or Provorov, Hanifan, Werenski or even Konecny before Strome

- EugenesAxe


Yeah, but he still has a good skill set. maybe he is not responsible enough to be a C, they can always try him out as RW. I still think he will be a top 6 forward, and a pretty good one.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

May 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Was correct about Schenn. Still maintain both Rundblad and Gormley could be NHL players - Rundblad actually put up excellent stats - and Cody Franson is one of the most under-utilized and underrated players in the NHL. My record is nearly unimpeachable.

I was definitely wrong about Pikke Rinne being finished, I was wrong about Stamkos being in heavy decline (though I still wouldn't have signed him) wrong about Hunwick and Polak to some extent. Right about Druin. Definitely wrong about Stone and Murphy. But better than 50/50 anyways.

- James_Tanner

you were wrong about Schenn. "untapped offensive potential".
Said he would be very good or something to that effect.

you can maintian it all you want. Doesnt make it ture or correct.You were wrong on all 3.

Why doesnt the best GM in hockey (Chayka) sign those dman as they
need quality ones. Not every day 3 top 4 dman are available for nothing.

nope not better than 50/50
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

May 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
you were wrong about Schenn. "untapped offensive potential".
Said he would be very good or something to that effect.

you can maintian it all you want. Doesnt make it ture or correct.You were wrong on all 3.

Why doesnt the best GM in hockey (Chayka) sign those dman as they
need quality ones. Not every day 3 top 4 dman are available for nothing.

nope not better than 50/50

- rinaldo


Well below .300. Emphatically so.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
Well below .300. Emphatically so.
- kinigitt


There's probably some advanced stat out there that shows even though he's wrong, he's actually right.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
they do... but with some "slightly different" credentials.

Poulin and O'Neil both had lengthy good careers. Both Button and McGuire, while ridiculed for their opinions have been around the game for a long time and have worked inside it.

They haven't earned their "heavy money" without earning some credibility.

Hanging your hat on interpreting clearly immature fancy stats ain't going to get you free tickets.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Free tickets are for fat cats and who wants to go to a game sober and act professional? While I don't agree that having played hockey professional makes you a good analytical thinker, certainly those guys have a valuable and important perspective from having played and or been directly involved in the NHL.

The problem is that in a lot of cases they are making bad analysis coloured by their own personal hands-on experience. I don't want their job or their credibility. I am just saying that you literally do get better hockey analysis from people who have nothing to do with the NHL, and who's opinions aren't clouded by who their friends are or how popular they want to be.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 11:13 AM ET
Free tickets are for fat cats and who wants to go to a game sober and act professional? While I don't agree that having played hockey professional makes you a good analytical thinker, certainly those guys have a valuable and important perspective from having played and or been directly involved in the NHL.

The problem is that in a lot of cases they are making bad analysis coloured by their own personal hands-on experience. I don't want their job or their credibility. I am just saying that you literally do get better hockey analysis from people who have nothing to do with the NHL, and who's opinions aren't clouded by who their friends are or how popular they want to be.

- James_Tanner

Paraphrased: Hands on experience just gets in the way of solid number crunching.

Source: Every engineer ever.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
The problem with Dylan Strome, like his older brother Ryan and younger draft eligible brother is that neither is a good enough skater to create time and space in the NHL.
Ryan Strome was a high pick 6 years ago and has plateaued as a player. Likely never raising above 3-4th line status.

No doubt if the Coyotes had a do over they would have picked Marner, Or Provorov, Hanifan, Werenski or even Konecny before Strome

- EugenesAxe


I will agree that Ryan's subpar NHL performance to date has definitely coloured people's perception of Dylan who they've never even seen play.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
People, dont get upset because he called Strome the greatest player not in the NHL. This is a sentence that gets thrown around all to often. I remember it being said numerous times about Brayden Schenn. I actually think Brayden and Dylan will have similar careers so Tanner is basically calling Strome Brayden Schenn, and that I can agree with, so kudos Mr. Tanner
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 25 @ 11:16 AM ET
People, dont get upset because he called Strome the greatest player not in the NHL. This is a sentence that gets thrown around all to often. I remember it being said numerous times about Brayden Schenn. I actually think Brayden and Dylan will have similar careers so Tanner is basically calling Strome Brayden Schenn, and that I can agree with, so kudos Mr. Tanner
- Ross77

That line was used to describe Brunnstrom at one point too.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

May 25 @ 11:20 AM ET
People, dont get upset because he called Strome the greatest player not in the NHL. This is a sentence that gets thrown around all to often. I remember it being said numerous times about Brayden Schenn. I actually think Brayden and Dylan will have similar careers so Tanner is basically calling Strome Brayden Schenn, and that I can agree with, so kudos Mr. Tanner
- Ross77



I agree it is a phrase used a lot. In Strome's case it's probably apt though, he did 2 extra years in junior and is 20, so he's obviously going to be better than most rookies.

Brayden Schenn is a pretty decent player. I hope for franchise player, but I'd settle for that.
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

May 25 @ 11:25 AM ET
People, dont get upset because he called Strome the greatest player not in the NHL. This is a sentence that gets thrown around all to often. I remember it being said numerous times about Brayden Schenn. I actually think Brayden and Dylan will have similar careers so Tanner is basically calling Strome Brayden Schenn, and that I can agree with, so kudos Mr. Tanner
- Ross77


Nothing wrong with Brayden Schenn
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
I agree it is a phrase used a lot. In Strome's case it's probably apt though, he did 2 extra years in junior and is 20, so he's obviously going to be better than most rookies.

Brayden Schenn is a pretty decent player. I hope for franchise player, but I'd settle for that.

- James_Tanner


I can see Strome in the calder race next year. I think Shipachev, Kyle Connor, McAvoy, Barzal, Erickson Ek, and Alex Nylander may also jump in the race though
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 25 @ 11:31 AM ET
Nothing wrong with Brayden Schenn
- DutchSenators

i agree, and i do think Strome will be similar, nothing wrong with that.
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