CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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If this is true they should have traded him at the TDL and gotten something for him. Even if just getting out 3rd rounder back. - Retinalz
where is the urgency? They have his rights for.....3 or 4 years? One would hope he plays well overseas and has a change of heart or becomes worth more than a 3rd round pick. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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where is the urgency? They have his rights for.....3 or 4 years? One would hope he plays well overseas and has a change of heart or becomes worth more than a 3rd round pick. - CanuckDon
If he waits 5 years then we got nothing for him. But my post was in regards to Maxwhatever stating he has no desire to play in the NHL at all. If that were true, then it doesn't matter if we have his rights. |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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The kid was home sick and didn't make friends with players or the coaching staff. Paired with a sense of entitlement it's no surprise he left. - CanuckDon
Everyone always misses home. Sure it plays a role. Even more when you are a foreigner who doesn't speak the language and don't have any communal ties. He had his wife with him being newlyweds and all. So he didn't hang out with the guys like other young players. But he didn't say in any interview he doesn't want to be in the NHL. When it comes to business he took the best offer he saw would help his career.
You call entitlement that he thought he was better then Sbisa and Larson? Or as good as Hutton and Stecher? One player everyone was talking about trading because he wasn't doing well. The other that he should be in the AHL to develop. So many posts here said Tree and Bo were only untouchables. So yeah kid was frustrated. Wanted to do more. But he didn't quit on the team during the season like Virbata. That's entitlement. He played his a$$ off. Then weighed his options.
Would he have played ahead of Edler, Tanev, Guddy, Hutton and Stecher? Or even Sbisa if he's not claimed? Probably didn't get much assurance it would be the case no matter how hard he tried cause of how the season went. So he took the offer that would help him more. Can't blame him for that.
It could help Canucks in the long run anyway. They develop some players here and Tree develops more taking a bigger role in KHL. He can increase his value whether he plays for Canucks or not in the future. I just don't see the need to write him off as a lost player or asset. |
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neem55
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KHL is behind on paychecks boys, I think it's going to keep trending down. They don't have the endorsement and media deals that keep the NHL afloat. Tree will be back as they keep getting cheaper, cutting costs.
I think Vilardi being a year younger than pretty much everybody in the top 10 bodes well for him getting better at skating. This was the knock on Bo, as you might all remember. The kid is a offensive driver and puck possession guy, with some serious grit. I'm surprised more aren't on board for this reason, this kid has a similar snarl to a Backes(which is who he reminds me of, but with better offense). Anyway, getting excited to see the finals, hell of a game tomorrow boys Go Sens, followed by go Smashville! My money is on the Pens, don't get me wrong. Got to hand it to the Sens, tonnes of heart in that lineup and I will cheer for them for that reason. |
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where is the urgency? They have his rights for.....3 or 4 years? One would hope he plays well overseas and has a change of heart or becomes worth more than a 3rd round pick. - CanuckDon
Mmm I dont know. I don't think I agree with that. |
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I don't care about the Canada thing. Bad fans, bad ownership.
I do like Burrows/Anderson/Brian Murray - VANTEL
I like Karlssen, Turrris, Stone and Hoffman as well. |
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I like Karlssen, Turrris, Stone and Hoffman as well. - thundachunk
Looking at where they were drafted or how they were acquired it just goes to show you don't have to draft first overalls to be competitive |
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I like Karlssen, Turrris, Stone and Hoffman as well. - thundachunk
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Mmm I dont know. I don't think I agree with that. - TheTaoOfSemenko
don't agree with what specifically? Pretty useless post |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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I cheer for Canadian players not Cities. I don't give a flying frank about Ottawa or any other Canadian team. I respect the Penguins for their ability to overcome adversity. No team has been rattled more by injuries this year in my opinion. - CanuckDon
Yeah it was more of a comment on Pittsburgh than anything. Thats one franchise I don't like, though they have many players on the team I respect and enjoy watching, as a franchise I do not like the way they do business.
Comparatively to the poopty deal Glendale has with the Coyotes, the City of Pittsburgh will pay $1M less of capital+ongoing costs for the life of the arena than Glendale, whose total includes its absurd payments to keep the team there. Penguin's percentage of public subsidy is on par with the Florida teams, Carolina, and expansion teams, which people can draw their own conclusions if its reflective of how great Penguin fans truly are |
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Looking at where they were drafted or how they were acquired it just goes to show you don't have to draft first overalls to be competitive - Redmile247
You don't have to overpay either. Right now the Canucks are one of the teams in the league that are over paying for junk. Why? I do not know. Eriksson, Sbisa, Dorsett, Sutter, Hutton, Markstrom. All are currently overpaid in my opinion. These a$$hats we call managers are probably going to overpay Horvat, Gudbransen and resign Miller at a retarded overpayment as well. Management should be ashamed.
This used to be a place players wanted to play. Now we have to overpay to stay relevant and even that hasn't worked. |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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Yeah seems he made the right decision then to go for now. Use KHL team for a better role to develop. Take family time and earn a better offer in playing more significant icetime. Others have done it who have that KHL option. I like to see one report of where Tree says he doesn't want to play in the NHL for family reasons. It's the Canuck line to save face. But I see this kid coming back one day to the NHL. He's still years away from his prime. Let's see if he uses the development time wisely. We all know there is never a shortage of interest for D by NHL teams. - Nuck4U
We'll see if it works out. If he falters or fails to get the details side of his game worked out, he may never return. He was definitely raw and I don't know enough about his KHL team to know if he will have the discipline or structure needed. Old Red Army players were structurally sound as part of a unit and details oriented, not sure if that still exists in all areas of Russian hockey these days |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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KHL is behind on paychecks boys, I think it's going to keep trending down. They don't have the endorsement and media deals that keep the NHL afloat. Tree will be back as they keep getting cheaper, cutting costs.
I think Vilardi being a year younger than pretty much everybody in the top 10 bodes well for him getting better at skating. This was the knock on Bo, as you might all remember. The kid is a offensive driver and puck possession guy, with some serious grit. I'm surprised more aren't on board for this reason, this kid has a similar snarl to a Backes(which is who he reminds me of, but with better offense). Anyway, getting excited to see the finals, hell of a game tomorrow boys Go Sens, followed by go Smashville! My money is on the Pens, don't get me wrong. Got to hand it to the Sens, tonnes of heart in that lineup and I will cheer for them for that reason. - neem55
Yeah Russian government has a sputtering economy so can't fund as well. The smaller poorer KHL teams will go. Nothing new in sports all leagues have had problem cities. China will probably be KHL addition and will boost revenues for that League.
I don't mind Vilardi. If JB can pull off trade to grab both Glass and Vilardi that would bode well. Adding size and skill to top six is a need for the Canucks. I find that working out better then the top D available this draft. |
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Yeah Russian government has a sputtering economy so can't fund as well. The smaller poorer KHL teams will go. Nothing new in sports all leagues have had problem cities. China will probably be KHL addition and will boost revenues for that League.
I don't mind Vilardi. If JB can pull off trade to grab both Glass and Vilardi that would bode well. Adding size and skill to top six is a need for a Canucks. I find that working out better then the top D available this draft. - Nuck4U
This tourney is making Vilardi look really good. I can really see his skating improve.
If neither are available at 5 do you take the Defence or go with Middlestadt?
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I don't care about the Canada thing. Bad fans, bad ownership.
I do like Burrows/Anderson/Brian Murray - VANTEL
The fact that Bettman has jobbed pretty much every Canadian team in the finals since 1994 doesn't bother you at all? |
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The fact that Bettman has jobbed pretty much every Canadian team in the finals since 1994 doesn't bother you at all? - LordHumungous
Bettman is a God. |
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Utica for next season
Demko
Garteig
Brisebois Subban
Sautner Chatfield
Dahlen Cassels Virtanen
Goldobin Carcone MacEwen
LaPlante
RFA LaBate, McEneny, Valk
Could be a pretty young team. - manvanfan
Raddysh on Defense as well
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You don't have to overpay either. Right now the Canucks are one of the teams in the league that are over paying for junk. Why? I do not know. Eriksson, Sbisa, Dorsett, Sutter, Hutton, Markstrom. All are currently overpaid in my opinion. These a$$hats we call managers are probably going to overpay Horvat, Gudbransen and resign Miller at a retarded overpayment as well. Management should be ashamed.
This used to be a place players wanted to play. Now we have to overpay to stay relevant and even that hasn't worked. - thundachunk
It's just a cycle ...when your a good team you have the benefits of players willing to take less to play there. When your bad you have to overpay ...the key is to move on from players if they want too much money ... easier said than done though
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Raddysh on Defense as well - classic321
Maybe, maybe not |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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This tourney is making Vilardi look really good. I can really see his skating improve.
If neither are available at 5 do you take the Defence or go with Middlestadt? - thundachunk
Middlestadt. He's got tons of up side and is a solid size too. A true center with vision that could also QB the PP. I don't see this crop of D as BPA over those top centers. It's riskier to draft for that D position that high in this draft IMO. You need a can't miss high end guy. Plus don't see the D potential outweigh those Centers IMO. |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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The fact that Bettman has jobbed pretty much every Canadian team in the finals since 1994 doesn't bother you at all? - LordHumungous
Having the Cup visit Parliament Hill instead of WH this year might also be a nice thing... |
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don't agree with what specifically? Pretty useless post - CanuckDon
The first part |
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Middlestadt. He's got tons of up side and is a solid size too. A true center with vision that could also QB the PP. I don't see this crop of D as BPA over those top centers. It's riskier to draft for that D position that high in this draft IMO. You need a can't miss high end guy. Plus don't see the D potential outweigh those Centers IMO. - Nuck4U
I do in Lilgergren and Makar but We have needs and a centre is at the top of the list. |
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I do in Lilgergren and Makar but We have needs and a centre is at the top of the list. - thundachunk
Chatfield will be a good PP guy |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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The first part - TheTaoOfSemenko
Ok, you think there is urgency in trading Tryamkins rights. Any specific reason? |
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