Don't forget the couple of Jabronis from Cow town that had a hand it this.

Seems like the Nucks fans have all logged off for now, which makes the thread interesting for a change.

I mean...what in the (frank) were they concerning themselves with before we showed up? A former 6th round pick signing with the KHL?
- Larsson_fan

Nothing wrong with a little constructive criticism

First draft in a couple years where they probably go forward heavy rather then dmen.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Must be nice to know you guys are a playoff team
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You have a top 3 prospect not in the NHL waiting in the wings in Jesse Franking Puljaarvi

Dumb question asked by dumb people. Makes sense.
- Larsson_fan

There are only 2 players ever that are within 1000 points of him . They had to play 300 more games to get to 900 points less.

Henrik Sedin just hit 1000 points after 16 years and is just under 2000 points away from Gretz.

There were thousands of the worlds best playing back then and only two have come within a thousand points away from him or 16 Henrik Sedin years.

People need to wrap their heads around those numbers. They are mind boggling

Must be nice to know you guys are a playoff team
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You have a top 3 prospect not in the NHL waiting in the wings in Jesse Franking Puljaarvi


- classic321

After a decade of our team being a punchline it is kind of nice. Also nice that they finally have the necessary blueline depth that talented prospects can actually spend time in the A developing.

Outside of Puljujarvi they don't have a ton of great forward prospects though. I liked drafting Tyler Benson but he seems to get injured a lot.

After a decade of our team being a punchline it is kind of nice. Also nice that they finally have the necessary blueline depth that talented prospects can actually spend time in the A developing.

Outside of Puljujarvi they don't have a ton of great forward prospects though. I liked drafting Tyler Benson but he seems to get injured a lot.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Benson is made of glass

He put up those numbers with a 10 dollar stick a loose fitting Joffa helmet , heavy pads and 200 dollar skates. Imagine if he had ultra lite skates with a composite stick and aerodynamic equipment along with the training facilities and technology.

It is a dumb question and even dumber to think Gretzky would be a lanky 140 lb kid playing with 1980 gear.
- VANTEL

He also put up those numbers against 4'6 goalies who would come out to the face off dot to look bigger in the net ... goals scored back then would be considered soft by today's standards ...the game then was all offence no defence

Just think if guys in the 80's could have levelled Gretzky like today's players do to the Crosby's of the world ...Gretzky today would have a Semenko to protect him

There are only 2 players ever that are within 1000 points of him . They had to play 300 more games to get to 900 points less.

Henrik Sedin just hit 1000 points after 16 years and is just under 2000 points away from Gretz.

There were thousands of the worlds best playing back then and only two have come within a thousand points away from him or 16 Henrik Sedin years.

People need to wrap their heads around those numbers. They are mind boggling
- VANTEL

I was never arguing Gretzky wasn't great ...just that he was lucky to play in the most offensive era ever

There are only 2 players ever that are within 1000 points of him . They had to play 300 more games to get to 900 points less.

Henrik Sedin just hit 1000 points after 16 years and is just under 2000 points away from Gretz.

There were thousand of the worlds best playing back then and only two have come within a thousand points away from him or 16 Henrik Sedin years.

People need to wrap their heads around those numbers. They are mind boggling
- VANTEL

Wiki his records sometime. I did one night and even as a long term Oilers fan I was blown away by some of them, especially the unofficial ones. For example, he scored 70 or more goals in 4 consecutive seasons, or even better: he was a PPG player 19 freakin seasons in a row. That doesn't even seem like it should be possible.

He also put up those numbers against 4'6 goalies who would come out to the face off dot to look bigger in the net ... goals scored back then would be considered soft by today's standards ...the game then was all offence no defence

Just think if guys in the 80's could have levelled Gretzky like today's players do to the Crosby's of the world ...Gretzky today would have a Semenko to protect him
- Redmile247

More than 2000 of the worlds best players played in the same era and no one is within 900 points of him.

Bobby Orr and Gordie Howe must have been crap then seeing they played agains short fat goalies like Worsely who didn't wear a mask.

Benson is made of glass
- VANTEL

sadly, it seems so. I remember at one point he destroyed Rattie's Bantam records and they were talking exceptional status for him.

Wiki his records sometime. I did one night and even as a long term Oilers fan I was blown away by some of them, especially the unofficial ones. For example, he scored 70 or more goals in 4 consecutive seasons, or even better: he was a PPG player 19 freakin seasons in a row. That doesn't even seem like it should be possible.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I lived in Edmonton at the time . I never missed a game

He also put up those numbers against 4'6 goalies who would come out to the face off dot to look bigger in the net ... goals scored back then would be considered soft by today's standards ...the game then was all offence no defence

Just think if guys in the 80's could have levelled Gretzky like today's players do to the Crosby's of the world ...Gretzky today would have a Semenko to protect him
- Redmile247

It was also considered harmless fun to aim any part of your body at another guys head. Gretz may have had Semenko but he learned early on to keep his head on a swivel and watch his ass. Semenko or not, other teams were always looking to nail him.

More than 2000 of the worlds best players played in the same era and no one is within 900 points of him.

Bobby Orr and Gordie Howe must have been crap then seeing they played agains short faat goalies like Worsely who didn't wear a mask.
- VANTEL

All I said was in today's game Gretzky would have not been able to set all his records ....it somehow snowballed into Gretzky is terrible ...I never said this

I was never arguing Gretzky wasn't great ...just that he was lucky to play in the most offensive era ever
- Redmile247

2000 other players played that same era. 900 points less 300 games more for the next closest guy same era.

More than 2000 of the worlds best players played in the same era and no one is within 900 points of him.

Bobby Orr and Gordie Howe must have been crap then seeing they played agains short fat goalies like Worsely who didn't wear a mask.
- VANTEL

Solid post. Too bad it will be lost on those sh!tstains.

All I said was in today's game Gretzky would have not been able to set all his records ....it somehow snowballed into Gretzky is terrible ...I never said this
- Redmile247

People agreed with you a couple pages ago.

Bigger goalie equipment, larger and faster and more skilled dmen, different rules, the advent of the butterfly...of course he wouldn't. However, all the same game advances that were unavailable to him in his time would now be his and he would still be thinking the game 5 steps ahead of everyone else.

There's no winner to be had in trying to compare players from different eras really. I doubt Crosby would enjoy the 80s where every goon that could half assed skate was looking to break your neck every game. We'll never really know.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

This is actually a useless debate or comparison, Gretzky was extremely talented, as is Crosby, the only comparison, they are/were both whiners on an extreme level.

Gretzky would have most definitely benefited from today training and nutrition regimes, but maybe he would have had 5 concussions also. Crosby doesn't have a Dave Semenko protecting him at every turn like Gretzky did.

All I said was in today's game Gretzky would have not been able to set all his records ....it somehow snowballed into Gretzky is terrible ...I never said this
- Redmile247

No it hasn't . No one said you thought he is terrible. We are just telling you that with all the technology and equipment he would still be the best.

After a decade of our team being a punchline it is kind of nice. Also nice that they finally have the necessary blueline depth that talented prospects can actually spend time in the A developing.

Outside of Puljujarvi they don't have a ton of great forward prospects though. I liked drafting Tyler Benson but he seems to get injured a lot.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

One of your Defense prospects got WHL d-man of the year.

One of ours was nominated but didn't win the QMJHL.

Those are good prospects in my books

This is actually a useless debate or comparison, Gretzky was extremely talented, as is Crosby, the only comparison, they are/were both whiners on an extreme level.

Gretzky would have most definitely benefited from today training and nutrition regimes, but maybe he would have had 5 concussions also. Crosby doesn't have a Dave Semenko protecting him at every turn like Gretzky did.
- Makita

Semenko was a winger. How much time do you suppose he spent playing on Waynes line?

It was also considered harmless fun to aim any part of your body at another guys head. Gretz may have had Semenko but he learned early on to keep his head on a swivel and watch his ass. Semenko or not, other teams were always looking to nail him.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Hasn't it been well documented about the "one" guy who hit Gretzky ?

This is actually a useless debate or comparison, Gretzky was extremely talented, as is Crosby, the only comparison, they are/were both whiners on an extreme level.

Gretzky would have most definitely benefited from today training and nutrition regimes, but maybe he would have had 5 concussions also. Crosby doesn't have a Dave Semenko protecting him at every turn like Gretzky did.
- Makita

Who says Gretzky wouldnt have cement head on his wing in todays NHL?

One of your Defense prospects got WHL d-man of the year.

One of ours was nominated but didn't win the QMJHL.

Those are good prospects in my books
- classic321

Yes. Guys like Caleb Jones and Mantha are strong D prospects as well. I said our forward prospect depth is not as strong outside of Puljujarvi.

This is actually a useless debate or comparison, Gretzky was extremely talented, as is Crosby, the only comparison, they are/were both whiners on an extreme level.

Gretzky would have most definitely benefited from today training and nutrition regimes, but maybe he would have had 5 concussions also. Crosby doesn't have a Dave Semenko protecting him at every turn like Gretzky did.
- Makita

Grezt got nailed twice in his career . He seen the whole ice better than anyone that played the game.

This is actually a useless debate or comparison, Gretzky was extremely talented, as is Crosby, the only comparison, they are/were both whiners on an extreme level.

Gretzky would have most definitely benefited from today training and nutrition regimes, but maybe he would have had 5 concussions also. Crosby doesn't have a Dave Semenko protecting him at every turn like Gretzky did.
- Makita

Whiners , Divers....meh...both part of the game, one is not more loathesome than the other.