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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 24 @ 8:36 PM ET
You're welcome to play Xbox with Mordecai or me. Or you could figure out what outfit you'll be wearing at the Pirates of the Caribbean premiere with Boyd Gordon.
- Mononoke

I've previously made a promise to someone to buy a ps4, so I'll be doing that in a few months

I've had the outfit picked out since March
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

May 24 @ 8:43 PM ET
He was saying we could have traded for another goalie to expose without giving Neuvirth that contract. That goalie would have filled the Neuvirth expansion role. But it's too late for that, and that's what they chose to do. So yes they won't add another goalie, but they could have months ago.
- Mononoke

Who knows what was available and what they tried to do? Could be they didn't want to get stuck with one of those other goalies when Vegas didn't pick them in the expansion draft.

I don't like the two years and would prefer they parted ways with Neuvirth. It seems to me they were trying to do something with Neuvrith before the trade deadline. They started him almost every game in in February, signed him to an extension on the trade deadline day only to plant his ass on the bench for most of the rest of the regular season, even while they thought they were still in the playoff picture. If I remember right, he got two starts after the trade deadline, the Toronto game and the game he passed out.

I would like to see Mason back until at least one of the kids are ready.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 24 @ 8:53 PM ET
I've previously made a promise to someone to buy a ps4, so I'll be doing that in a few months

I've had the outfit picked out since March

- YuenglingJagr

Just play Destiny and be satisfied forever
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
Who knows what was available and what they tried to do? Could be they didn't want to get stuck with one of those other goalies when Vegas didn't pick them in the expansion draft.

I don't like the two years and would prefer they parted ways with Neuvirth. It seems to me they were trying to do something with Neuvrith before the trade deadline. They started him almost every game in in February, signed him to an extension on the trade deadline day only to plant his ass on the bench for most of the rest of the regular season, even while they thought they were still in the playoff picture. If I remember right, he got two starts after the trade deadline, the Toronto game and the game he passed out.

I would like to see Mason back until at least one of the kids are ready.

- FlyerFan16


They're gonna sign one of those goalies anyway. So I don't think that's true. Either way. There were other options available to them besides saying, "Michal we need to sign someone for the expansion draft, what would you like?"
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

May 24 @ 8:57 PM ET
Just play Destiny and be satisfied forever
- Mordecai


Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 24 @ 9:05 PM ET

- StepfordSam


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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 24 @ 9:22 PM ET
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- Mononoke

I trust StepfordSam's opinion more than Mordecai's
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 24 @ 9:25 PM ET
I trust StepfordSam's opinion more than Mordecai's
- YuenglingJagr


You just have to be on your guard with StepfordSam's opinion. He's a known master of sarcasm.

But Destiny is indeed poop.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

May 24 @ 9:31 PM ET
You just have to be on your guard with StepfordSam's opinion. He's a known master of sarcasm.

But Destiny is indeed poop.

- Mononoke




The gunplay is actually pretty solid for a console shooter. Too bad it is in the service of a boooooring game.

Can't recommend Nier Automata enough since my opinion seems to be highly thought of these days.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 24 @ 9:34 PM ET
They flat out said they did not talk to Mason about an extension before signing Neuvirth
- YuenglingJagr


This is what i call a good leveraging of your assets. Dont talk to them and feel them out, just sign a lesser player to a higher dollar contract then they previously had.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 9:35 PM ET
Just not sure I buy into that. I thought Hextall had moves available before he got painted into a small corner. I don't doubt that he wanted something figured out before the offseason though.

I don't think Nick Schultz or PEB had Hextall cornered either and they got sizable contracts similar to Neuvirth

- YuenglingJagr


What moves were they? Completely different situations with Schultz and Bellemare. If the Flyers had an established starter under contract, there is no way Neuvirth would've gotten that much money from the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 9:37 PM ET
He was saying we could have traded for another goalie to expose without giving Neuvirth that contract. That goalie would have filled the Neuvirth expansion role. But it's too late for that, and that's what they chose to do. So yes they won't add another goalie, but they could have months ago.
- Mononoke


That would've had to have been for a player they felt comfortable being a starter for next season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
This is what i call a good leveraging of your assets. Dont talk to them and feel them out, just sign a lesser player to a higher dollar contract then they previously had.
- ggunky



Why talk to a player you're not interested in bringing back based on the circumstances at hand? Do you think they could've signed Mason to the same deal they did Neuvirth? They're comfortable with that deal for the next two seasons versus what Mason would've cost in term and money. That's what it comes down to when choosing between the two which to re-sign.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
That would've had to have been for a player they felt comfortable being a starter for next season.
- MJL


Good thing they feel that way about Neuvirth
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
Good thing they feel that way about Neuvirth
- Mononoke


False narrative on your part here. It's widely known that the Flyers want to sign another goaltender to share the net with Neuvirth. They are however okay if they're not able to do that in having Neuvirth as the starter with perhaps Stolarz as the backup. There is no guarantee that they will get the player they want. Nwuvirth is an insurance policy for them without having to get into a bigger deal with a player they really don't want.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 24 @ 10:04 PM ET
False narrative on your part here. It's widely known that the Flyers want to sign another goaltender to share the net with Neuvirth. They are however okay if they're not able to do that in having Neuvirth as the starter with perhaps Stolarz as the backup. There is no guarantee that they will get the player they want. Nwuvirth is an insurance policy for them without having to get into a bigger deal with a player they really don't want.
- MJL


They gunna Flyer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 24 @ 10:08 PM ET
They gunna Flyer.
- flyer_nutter


Hakstol and Neuvirth are best buds!
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

May 24 @ 10:13 PM ET
False narrative on your part here. It's widely known that the Flyers want to sign another goaltender to share the net with Neuvirth. They are however okay if they're not able to do that in having Neuvirth as the starter with perhaps Stolarz as the backup. There is no guarantee that they will get the player they want. Nwuvirth is an insurance policy for them without having to get into a bigger deal with a player they really don't want.
- MJL


I wouldn't be comfortable with Neurvirth as the only starter if they can't find a veteran to complement him. Maybe I'm misreading your sentence but I doubt the Flyers would feel comfortable with that as well. Personally I think that would be a mistake.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
After a bit of googling it appears Boyd Gordon used to date Kaitlyn Bristowe. I gained a bit of respect for him
- YuenglingJagr



A) i admit i had to google her. no idea who she was. B) holy hell the Bachelor has been on for 19 seasons????????
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 24 @ 10:24 PM ET
Hakstol and Neuvirth are best buds!
- MJL


God I knew it. Where did you see them?
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

May 24 @ 10:41 PM ET
Just my fart-flavored opinion here... but I don't think there's any chance that Vegas would take either Neuvirth or Stolarz in expansion over somebody like Raffl or Laughton or Cousins. If Hextall acquires another goalie before the draft he just has to protect that goalie.

Sometimes I fantasize about the idea of Vegas taking A-Mac in expansion, the same way I fantasize about winning the lottery. I know it won't happen but it's not impossible so I allow myself to dream
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 24 @ 11:08 PM ET
I'm unreasonably mad
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 24 @ 11:08 PM ET
Maybe if you guys were GOOD you could appreciate it
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

May 24 @ 11:10 PM ET
Just my fart-flavored opinion here... but I don't think there's any chance that Vegas would take either Neuvirth or Stolarz in expansion over somebody like Raffl or Laughton or Cousins. If Hextall acquires another goalie before the draft he just has to protect that goalie.

Sometimes I fantasize about the idea of Vegas taking A-Mac in expansion, the same way I fantasize about winning the lottery. I know it won't happen but it's not impossible so I allow myself to dream

- Coburns_Nose

I believe Stolarz has one thing that may make him more interesting to Vegas than the others. I believe he is still waiver exempt for another year. I'm not saying I expect Vegas to take him but it could help Vegas stock their system.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 24 @ 11:14 PM ET
Sounds like neither of you have any good raid groups

SAD
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