My top 10 Flyers head coaches:

1. Fred Shero 72-79
2. Mike Keenan 84-88
3. Ken Hitchcock 02-06
4. Peter Laviolette 09-13
5. Pat Quinn 79-82
6. Terry Murray 94-97
7. Roger Neilson 98-00
8. Keith Allen 67-69
9. John Stevens 06-09
10. Bill Dineen 91-93
- BiggE

And look at how few years they all got. That's organizational impatience if I've ever seen it

And look at how few years they all got. That's organizational impatience if I've ever seen it
- Tfaehner

If you did the same for most other NHL teams, even the successful ones, I think you'll find similar terms.

If you did the same for most other NHL teams, even the successful ones, I think you'll find similar terms.
- jmatchett383

If anything I think it shows how short windows are for teams to be contenders.

If Hak coaches 4 full seasons with the Flyers, he'll tie Keenan for 2nd most seasons coached in club history. I'm guessing most NHL coaches rent homes rather than buy.

If they miss the playoffs again, is Varsity out?

If Hak coaches 4 full seasons with the Flyers, he'll tie Keenan for 2nd most seasons coached in club history. I'm guessing most NHL coaches rent homes rather than buy.

- BiggE

I've always admitted that I liked Luke Schenn and Nicholas Grossmann, this is no secret. It doesn't mean I agree with going against Laviolette's system just because you like players who clearly do not fit in. Giroux probably would be a better player if we still had a JvR. Firing Laviolette was such a stupid move and even though I liked Schenn for example, I didn't want him at the cost of a clear front line winger.

Asking Laviolette to "tweet" his system was the first mistake. The NHL wants more goals.

Asking Laviolette to "tweet" his system was the first mistake. The NHL wants more goals.
- SuperSchennBros

He's just not a social media fan.

He's just not a social media fan.
- jmatchett383

I heard he swore it off after he lost all that money on the Wuphf IPO

I heard he swore it off after he lost all that money on the Wuphf IPO
- YuenglingJagr

I don't know what that is, but I think that Bradlees Caldor of the Wetaskiwin Woolworths of the KONAAHL (Kind of Northern Alberta Amateur Hockey League) would be a great pick-up in the 6th round.

If they miss the playoffs again, is Varsity out?
- flyer_nutter

Maybe. It depends on how they miss the playoffs.

Is Giroux or Couturier missing for a majority of the season?

Do you fire the guy because key pieces are missing for extended periods of time?

I heard he swore it off after he lost all that money on the Wuphf IPO
- YuenglingJagr

I don't know what that is, but I think that Bradlees Caldor of the Wetaskiwin Woolworths of the KONAAHL (Kind of Northern Alberta Amateur Hockey League) would be a great pick-up in the 6th round.
- jmatchett383

I felt like, from my extensive YouTube scouting, that Kohl Macy was a much better player in a watered down league.

No hearing for Wingels.

If I'm a Pittsburgh player, I'm throwing a hard, blatant elbow and Hoffman first chance I get tomorrow. It's obviously not a play that can be penalized.
- jmatchett383

just a hockey play dude.

He was 19 when drafted, so the same signing time-frame applied. He did play an over-age season.
- bmeltzer

So glad we took him, so so so glad

So glad we took him, so so so glad
- ob18

Looking at who was chosen after him, except for Anthony Duclair nobody really sticks out to make it such a terrible pick other than the possibility he would have been available much later.

If they miss the playoffs again, is Varsity out?
- flyer_nutter

In the Metropolitan, it's hard to make the playoffs even with an established coach. There still aways from Washington and Pittsburgh. Maybe not quite up there with the Rags. Best bet is a wild card.

With that said, if Hextall doesn't feel Hakstol is getting the most out of this team, yeah I can see him getting sacked.

Looking at who was chosen after him, except for Anthony Duclair nobody really sticks out to make it such a terrible pick other than the possibility he would have been available much later.
- MBFlyerfan

Oliver Bjorkstrand

Looking at who was chosen after him, except for Anthony Duclair nobody really sticks out to make it such a terrible pick other than the possibility he would have been available much later.
- MBFlyerfan

That Guentzel guy who was leading the playoffs in goals last time I checked was drafted after Gouldbourne. Penguins got lucky again.

Looking at who was chosen after him, except for Anthony Duclair nobody really sticks out to make it such a terrible pick other than the possibility he would have been available much later.
- MBFlyerfan

Buchnevich, Duclair, Guentzel, Bjorkstrand........all right after. So idk about that.

It was a terrible pick without even using unfair hindsight to say, "Should have identified this gem!" You shouldn't judge a pick with hindsight. He was a dime a dozen re-entry with zero upside. The type you stay away from. Worst of all, the Flyers had Bjorkstrand ahead of Ghoul on their own internal rankings.......by a mile. They ranked Bjorkstrand 51, Ghoul in the 70s......at 72 still chose Ghoul. That is a strategical (frank) up and nonsensical, to say nothing of how they viewed Ghoul to begin with. No hindsight there. Bjorkstrand is looking like a good one. Forget Duclair and the rest.

That Guentzel guy who was leading the playoffs in goals last time I checked was drafted after Gouldbourne. Penguins got lucky again.
- PLindbergh31

You can't fault the flyers at the time. It was clear they were infatuated with Rinaldo and wanted to load up on more. Thus Z2 was born and a bizarre number of unforseen and unimaginable circumstances led to Rinaldo being out of the league. Flyers have the worst luck

I would have rather they never fired Lavi.
- Tomahawk

Laviolette had to go. That doesn't answer the question.

Buchnevich, Duclair, Guentzel, Bjorkstrand........all right after. So idk about that.

It was a terrible pick without even using unfair hindsight to say, "Should have identified this gem!" You shouldn't judge a pick with hindsight. He was a dime a dozen re-entry with zero upside. The type you stay away from. Worst of all, the Flyers had Bjorkstrand ahead of Ghoul on their own internal rankings.......by a mile. They ranked Bjorkstrand 51, Ghoul in the 70s......at 72 still chose Ghoul. That is a strategical (frank) up and nonsensical, to say nothing of how they viewed Ghoul to begin with. No hindsight there. Bjorkstrand is looking like a good one. Forget Duclair and the rest.
- Mononoke

Laviolette had to go. That doesn't answer the question.
- MJL

42. That is the answer to the question.

You can't fault the flyers at the time. It was clear they were infatuated with Rinaldo and wanted to load up on more. Thus Z2 was born and a bizarre number of unforseen and unimaginable circumstances led to Rinaldo being out of the league. Flyers have the worst luck
- Just5

can never have enough 175 pound psuedo tough guys.