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spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

May 21 @ 7:21 PM ET
I dislike their little dance routine in hallway before hitting ice on gamedays
krockcfd
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.28.2017

May 21 @ 7:50 PM ET
This ones for Andy, chin up big guy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v7ECCaZ2EKU

- Aussiepenguin



Not sure if this was a lame attempt at a joke, but do try to realize that he's had a lot of off ice issues with his wife battling cancer. Way to stay classy there penguin fan.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
Can we throw these numbers out the window? I had to stop watching after two, 5-0 is a terrible score to watch from a losing side. Anyways, worst (frank)ing period from the Sens I've seen these playoffs, but I would STILL not completely write the Sens off. Yeah, we have to win two after poopting the bed today, but I think I believe we can do it (I picked Pens to win in 6, but I think now they win in 7)
- Mr_Clean


I am surprised at some people's reaction here.

The series is not over until it is over. Expect a bounce back from Ottawa on Tuesday and if this goes to game 7, anything can happen.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 7:58 PM ET
Looks dirty to me! Not going to justify it.

That said, super rich that I'm supposed to feel bad about it or something. Idgaf that this happened any more than I'm sure you gaf about having Pens players cause Sens players to miss games probably a half-dozen times in the last decade.

Just yesterday we had another of your cohort in here hoping that someone injure Karlsson's foot. Mission accomplished there, I guess. Nice high hit to cause Brassard to leave the game for a while too. I don't care about that because I'm super used to Penguins injuring Senator players.

- Mr_Clean


You know I love ya Cleansy, but Sens can't complain about the Penguins injuring them in this series.

PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

May 21 @ 8:03 PM ET
Where did I complain? I just pointed out that your fellow fan was rooting for Karlsson to get a season-ending injury, and now I'm supposed to commiserate with you over this play?

I'm also not the one in the other team's thread, complaining. I've never seen a fanbase where whining is so deeply engendered, you win a game 7-0 and the entire internet is alive with Pens fans raging about this dirty elbow.

- Mr_Clean[/quote

Your fan base whines as much as any other. See Melnyk s CSI investigation. This is your glass house moment.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

May 21 @ 8:08 PM ET
Anyone remember when I said game 4 was a "must win". This is why....


Sens I don't know what that was, but it wasn't hockey, that was embarrassing. Better win the next two or this season is a failure
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 21 @ 8:13 PM ET
Looks dirty to me! Not going to justify it.

That said, super rich that I'm supposed to feel bad about it or something. Idgaf that this happened any more than I'm sure you gaf about having Pens players cause Sens players to miss games probably a half-dozen times in the last decade.

Just yesterday we had another of your cohort in here hoping that someone injure Karlsson's foot. Mission accomplished there, I guess. Nice high hit to cause Brassard to leave the game for a while too. I don't care about that because I'm super used to Penguins injuring Senator players.

- Mr_Clean


That was me, and I was just getting with the program according to the standard that some of your own cohorts laid out for me, so don't expect an apology. You know I've been on this site a LONG time, and I'm normally pretty reserved, but I was reacting to the fact that not one of you guys wanted to own up to the dirty hit that Ryan laid on Ruhwede,l and the NHL needs to start enforcing the rules so that sh*t like that doesn't happen. I was instead given a virtual pat on the head and told that "this is playoff hockey and these things happen" and that "it's a contact sport, deal with it"...so yeah, I figured if that's the standard, then lets start sending Sens to the locker-room, including E.K. first and foremost. No reason for me to feel or act otherwise when I get that kind of response. At least I'm not going to be a hypocrite about it.

When I see Wilson get run at the end of a 7-0 game with an elbow to the head with no penalty that may have caused ANOTHER concussion...it just reinforces the way things are.

Like I said, if no one, including the NHL, cares that these guys are getting damaged by flagrant head shots on a nightly basis, how can I begrudged wishing E.K. taking a shot to the foot that causes him to miss the rest of the series? Law of the jungle rules.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Anyone remember when I said game 4 was a "must win". This is why....


Sens I don't know what that was, but it wasn't hockey, that was embarrassing. Better win the next two or this season is a failure

- Maverick1818

not trying to be a Richard, but taking it to at the absolute very least a game six in the eastern conference finals is viewed as a failed season? sens have been shocking people with house money up until this point and have nothing to be ashamed of regardless of outcome.

its not like they pulled a capitals
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 21 @ 8:19 PM ET
And you guys are burying the Sens prematurely, as far as I'm concerned. First goal in game 6 will be huge, but if the Sens get it, there is no reason to think that they can't push the Pens to the limit and to a game 7.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

May 21 @ 8:26 PM ET
not trying to be a Richard, but taking it to at the absolute very least a game six in the eastern conference finals is viewed as a failed season? sens have been shocking people with house money up until this point and have nothing to be ashamed of regardless of outcome.

its not like they pulled a capitals

- stayinthefnnet


I 100 % disagree for two reasons.

#1. Watching the Caps vs Pens Series. The Pens should have lost, they got out played every game except for two. They got a few lucky bounces and the Caps didn't. Plus Ovi was playing basically on one leg.

#2. The difference is the Caps gave it their all every game, the games the the Pens have won in this series, Ottawa has looked pathetic, No effort, sloppy play.

As far as I am concerned, Yes if they lose, it's a failed season. Anything less than a cup is failure
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

May 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
And you guys are burying the Sens prematurely, as far as I'm concerned. First goal in game 6 will be huge, but if the Sens get it, there is no reason to think that they can't push the Pens to the limit and to a game 7.
- Emperor Filonius

Not me. I know the Sens are good hockey team. I know full well they can still win this series.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 21 @ 8:40 PM ET
I 100 % disagree for two reasons.

#1. Watching the Caps vs Pens Series. The Pens should have lost, they got out played every game except for two. They got a few lucky bounces and the Caps didn't. Plus Ovi was playing basically on one leg.

#2. The difference is the Caps gave it their all every game, the games the the Pens have won in this series, Ottawa has looked pathetic, No effort, sloppy play.

As far as I am concerned, Yes if they lose, it's a failed season. Anything less than a cup is failure

- Maverick1818


I admire your conviction, but considering the expectations for Ottawa, getting this far is a pretty nice accomplishment. I realize the ultimate goal is always a cup, but if the Sens lose this round to the reigning cup champs, I suspect that once the sting wears off, this will be looked at as a solid season, and justifiably so.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 21 @ 8:46 PM ET
I 100 % disagree for two reasons.

#1. Watching the Caps vs Pens Series. The Pens should have lost, they got out played every game except for two. They got a few lucky bounces and the Caps didn't. Plus Ovi was playing basically on one leg.

#2. The difference is the Caps gave it their all every game, the games the the Pens have won in this series, Ottawa has looked pathetic, No effort, sloppy play.

As far as I am concerned, Yes if they lose, it's a failed season. Anything less than a cup is failure

- Maverick1818


im not gonna sit here on a perch and speak your eulogy, as the sens could very well go back to holding the pens to a goal a piece in the next to games and skate off to the finals.

as to number one. im not going to give any team the benefit of the injury excuse with what the pens are forced to trot out there on the back end.

secondly, im not gonna describe your own team to you, as a fan of them youd obviously know better. but today was really the only game that i didnt see the sens busting their asses out there. no effort described today. in each of the blowouts, once the team got the second and third goal the other just packed it in. but other than that, its been effort around on both sides.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

May 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
I admire your conviction, but considering the expectations for Ottawa, getting this far is a pretty nice accomplishment. I realize the ultimate goal is always a cup, but if the Sens lose this round to the reigning cup champs, I suspect that once the sting wears off, this will be looked at as a solid season, and justifiably so.
- Emperor Filonius

I hope not to be honest. If there is one thing I absolutely hate about Sens fans, is they are complacent with doing "okay". It's an "everyone should get an award for trying" mentality and it's pathetic. It breeds a losing is fine mentality.

Here is the problem, if we lose to the Pens and everyone says "well we made it this far and did good and everyone is happy with that". There is no incentive to get better, at this point it's like running a race and saying "4th place is just as good as winning". I'm sorry but that is just sad, especially when we put in a crap effort like we just saw.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

May 21 @ 9:34 PM ET
Go 7enat0rs!!
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 21 @ 9:36 PM ET
I hope not to be honest. If there is one thing I absolutely hate about Sens fans, is they are complacent with doing "okay". It's an "everyone should get an award for trying" mentality and it's pathetic. It breeds a losing is fine mentality.

Here is the problem, if we lose to the Pens and everyone says "well we made it this far and did good and everyone is happy with that". There is no incentive to get better, at this point it's like running a race and saying "4th place is just as good as winning". I'm sorry but that is just sad, especially when we put in a crap effort like we just saw.

- Maverick1818


This is overly harsh. If the Sens lose, and that is still very much in question, it does not mean "losing is fine". It just means the Pens were the better team. You hope your team improves and you make a run at it again next year.

28 other fan bases have to do the same thing every year.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 21 @ 9:48 PM ET
This is overly harsh. If the Sens lose, and that is still very much in question, it does not mean "losing is fine". It just means the Pens were the better team. You hope your team improves and you make a run at it again next year.

28 other fan bases have to do the same thing every year.

- Aetherial


Agreed. And the Sens obviously aren't as bad as they showed today, just like the Penguins weren't as bad as they showed in game 3, when they were lousy by any standard. Sometimes the ball starts rolling down the hill and you can't stop it. The Pens are by any objective standard, the deeper and better hockey team. Even depleted by injury, they have the 2 best players on the ice night in and night out who create matchup problems galore, especially with E.K. playing hurt. If teh Sens go out, there is no shame in losing to the more talented team. That doesn't mean anyone should accept that improvements can't be made, obviously, but its also a far cry from a failure . There are things that can be built on, for sure.
krockcfd
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.28.2017

May 21 @ 9:55 PM ET
I hope not to be honest. If there is one thing I absolutely hate about Sens fans, is they are complacent with doing "okay". It's an "everyone should get an award for trying" mentality and it's pathetic. It breeds a losing is fine mentality.

Here is the problem, if we lose to the Pens and everyone says "well we made it this far and did good and everyone is happy with that". There is no incentive to get better, at this point it's like running a race and saying "4th place is just as good as winning". I'm sorry but that is just sad, especially when we put in a crap effort like we just saw.

- Maverick1818



I won't be happy if they lose, but you can sure bet I'll be proud they made it as far as they did and gave me the opportunity to witness some incredible playoff hockey. While winning the cup is always the primary goal, its also important to enjoy the moments in between... GO SENS GO
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
In these playoffs you had the Oilers get trounced by the Sharks to come back next game and take the series. Not learning the lesson of overconfidence. The Oil did same to Ducks. Only to have Ducks to same to them. Wouldn't count Sens done at home. As long as they show up to pressure that flimsy Pens D they win. If they Boucher it then Sid and Gino will run over them.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 21 @ 10:40 PM ET
I am surprised at some people's reaction here.

The series is not over until it is over. Expect a bounce back from Ottawa on Tuesday and if this goes to game 7, anything can happen.

- Aetherial

Told ya the pens would easily win the next two games after the 3rd game.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

May 22 @ 1:39 AM ET
I hope not to be honest. If there is one thing I absolutely hate about Sens fans, is they are complacent with doing "okay". It's an "everyone should get an award for trying" mentality and it's pathetic. It breeds a losing is fine mentality.
Here is the problem, if we lose to the Pens and everyone says "well we made it this far and did good and everyone is happy with that". There is no incentive to get better, at this point it's like running a race and saying "4th place is just as good as winning". I'm sorry but that is just sad, especially when we put in a crap effort like we just saw.

- Maverick1818

First off, the series isn't over.

Second, I think you're forgetting that this was a team that surprised an awful lot of people by even making the playoffs, let alone making the Eastern Conference Finals, and jumping out to a 2-1 series lead against the defending Cup champions. Even if they do lose the series, this team has exceeded every conceivable expectation and done so with a long list of compelling moments and stories along the way (eg. Anderson, MacArthur).

Nobody is saying that 4th place is just as good as winning, but if you can't appreciate one of the team's best playoff showings in franchise history then I'm not sure what to tell you... other than I'm pretty sure the team and the vast majority of it's fans aren't likely to dismiss this season as a colossal failure just because they $hit the bed in Game 5 of the Conference Finals.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 22 @ 2:16 AM ET
not trying to be a Richard, but taking it to at the absolute very least a game six in the eastern conference finals is viewed as a failed season? sens have been shocking people with house money up until this point and have nothing to be ashamed of regardless of outcome.

its not like they pulled a capitals

- stayinthefnnet

Agreed! and how many games this playoffs has their been 7 goals scored against the other team ,3? Sens are not as experienced, their playing the reining champs, this has been a pretty good season imho
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 22 @ 2:19 AM ET
In these playoffs you had the Oilers get trounced by the Sharks to come back next game and take the series. Not learning the lesson of overconfidence. The Oil did same to Ducks. Only to have Ducks to same to them. Wouldn't count Sens done at home. As long as they show up to pressure that flimsy Pens D they win. If they Boucher it then Sid and Gino will run over them.
- Nuck4U

well said
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 22 @ 4:18 AM ET
Not sure if this was a lame attempt at a joke, but do try to realize that he's had a lot of off ice issues with his wife battling cancer. Way to stay classy there penguin fan.
- krockcfd


And I wish him & his wife well.

http://news.nationalpost....a-senators-craig-anderson

I still hope we chase him out next game as well! Same as Ryan, I hope he runs into a Pens elbow the same way he gave one despite his traumatised life!

Nothing classless about my post, just your overtuned sensitivity after a loss. The song was for the team, the chin up for your goalie who was replaced after playing very very well to date. Maybe you should have a chat with Sens.sensative - the bear!
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