Shrug. They did say emergency surgery. I'll take it at face value.
- kinigitt

By the sound of it it's acute compartment syndrome. He may have required an emergent fasciotomy to release the pressure in the deep compartments of the thigh. It could have resulted from a mild fracture (not necessarily, but possibly), leading to an internal bleed, leading to internal swelling, thereby blocking further blood flow to the muscle and nerve tissue. It's a pretty dangerous situation. That he experienced tightness coming off the ice and then was taken to the hospital for emergent surgery points toward the diagnosis, though of course one can't be too sure. I'd put my money on it, though.

By the sound of it it's acute compartment syndrome. He may have required an emergent fasciotomy to release the pressure in the deep compartments of the thigh. It could have resulted from a mild fracture (not necessarily, but possibly), leading to an internal bleed, leading to internal swelling, thereby blocking further blood flow to the muscle and nerve tissue. It's a pretty dangerous situation. That he experienced tightness coming off the ice and then was taken to the hospital for emergent surgery points toward the diagnosis, though of course one can't be too sure. I'd put my money on it, though.
- StRayHawk

I don't know anything that you said besides blood flow blockage, but that sounds very serious. Best of luck in Johansen's recovery. Good hockey player and a young guy so hopefully he bounces back. If you can elaborate on the injury that'd be awesome. I watched a clip of his last shift and he looked uncomfortable and whinced, but still jumped the boards. Thanks!

I don't know anything that you said besides blood flow blockage, but that sounds very serious. Best of luck in Johansen's recovery. Good hockey player and a young guy so hopefully he bounces back. If you can elaborate on the injury that'd be awesome. I watched a clip of his last shift and he looked uncomfortable and whinced, but still jumped the boards. Thanks!
- EnzoD

I don't know anything that you said besides blood flow blockage, but that sounds very serious. Best of luck in Johansen's recovery. Good hockey player and a young guy so hopefully he bounces back. If you can elaborate on the injury that'd be awesome. I watched a clip of his last shift and he looked uncomfortable and whinced, but still jumped the boards. Thanks!
- EnzoD

TBH i'm not 100% certain i'm right; just an educated guess from my med school days (ortho is not my specialty). But in short, you get hit and bleed internally. In short time pressure builds up in between muscle compartments, and the resultant swelling cuts off blood supply. And if blood doesn't get to muscle and nerve, they both die, so surgery is needed to cut open that area to release the pressure (fasciotomy).

I'm not completely up to date on recovery time for compartment syndrome, but given that he's out 2-3 months, i'm concerned about two things. 1) he may have a femur fracture (which kinda makes sense, as fracture is the leading cause of compartment syndrome, but it's hard to fracture that bone, but it's hockey) or 2) he had a soft-tissue injury and skated through the tightness and pain, which may have caused enough damage to muscle/nerve in the short term to require a 2-3 month recovery time.

Everything from the type of injury to the way he skated off the ice to the delayed and then emergent surgery after the game smacks of this diagnosis. As long as there is no irreversible damage to the leg, he should be fine long term without any ill effects.

I wish him a speedy recovery. The vascular guys at Vandy are very good.

Hope this helps. Looks like the Preds are keeping things close to the vest b/c i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and it's not as serious.

TBH i'm not 100% certain i'm right; just an educated guess from my med school days (ortho is not my specialty). But in short, you get hit and bleed internally. In short time pressure builds up in between muscle compartments, and the resultant swelling cuts off blood supply. And if blood doesn't get to muscle and nerve, they both die, so surgery is needed to cut open that area to release the pressure (fasciotomy).

I'm not completely up to date on recovery time for compartment syndrome, but given that he's out 2-3 months, i'm concerned about two things. 1) he may have a femur fracture (which kinda makes sense, as fracture is the leading cause of compartment syndrome, but it's hard to fracture that bone, but it's hockey) or 2) he had a soft-tissue injury and skated through the tightness and pain, which may have caused enough damage to muscle/nerve in the short term to require a 2-3 month recovery time.

Everything from the type of injury to the way he skated off the ice to the delayed and then emergent surgery after the game smacks of this diagnosis. As long as there is no irreversible damage to the leg, he should be fine long term without any ill effects.

I wish him a speedy recovery. The vascular guys at Vandy are very good.

Hope this helps. Looks like the Preds are keeping things close to the vest b/c i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and it's not as seriousd.
- StRayHawk

Great insight! Thanks for the info and best wishes for Johansen.

Hype train full steam ahead!

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...lex-debrincat/?ref=trevor

That only goes so far.....to get a top 6 player or top 4 d man? Debatable.

To get a serviceable player who can skate in the 9-12 slot at F or 5-6 D slot? yeah, that should happen.....

hawks have missed on a lot of drafts as of late.
- SteveRain

Maybe in that case we should be the ones trading with Dallas to get the 3rd pick.

Hype train full steam ahead!

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...lex-debrincat/?ref=trevor
- EnzoD

Major flaw in this article is that Debrincat can play in the AHL next year. It's not a n Erie or Chicago make or break year for him.

Let the Debrincat hype continue. Ha

- walleyeb1

Oh god damn

The Hawks definitely need defenders to play on the right side.

This is what I would do.
1. Resign Kempny
2. Sign Rutta
3. Send Vegas a 4th round pick (or a prospect) to take Kruger and not TVR. That would free up $3 mil and keep a serviceable right side defender
4. See what it would take to get Duchene. I would trade Anisimov, Panik, Forsling and a 2nd round pick this year and a 2nd next year (that moves up to a 1st if the Hawks are in the Cup final) for Duchene. Colorado eats $2 mil in salary this year and next. It seems like we would be giving up a lot. But you free up a little cap space, have a 2nd line center that can win face offs, and can make 2 really solid lines. If you could keep Forsling out of the deal I would. But he could be the most attractive piece to Colorado. Colorado might be able to trade off Panik and Anisimov for prospects/picks in their rebuild.
5. Sign Oduya if you can at a low price.

Forwards
Panarin - Duchene - Kane
??? - Toews - Hossa
Remaining forwards - Kero, Hartman, Hayden, Schmaltz, Debrincat, Motte, Hino, Tootoo, Moose, Jurco, Kampf etc....

Defense
Keith, Seabs, Hjalmarsson, TVR, Rutta, Oduya, Kempny,

Goalies
Crow & Glass (or suitable 2nd goalie)

Cap $72 mil+/- then add the overages
- -Doh-

Actually it's been reported that the avalanche is wanting a 1st and top defenseman prospect plus a player, your trade is interesting but they wouldn't be holding any salery especially taking a 2nd round, but who knows? I think bowman will be creative and find a way to get the players he needs and Chicago will be fine going into next season

TBH i'm not 100% certain i'm right; just an educated guess from my med school days (ortho is not my specialty). But in short, you get hit and bleed internally. In short time pressure builds up in between muscle compartments, and the resultant swelling cuts off blood supply. And if blood doesn't get to muscle and nerve, they both die, so surgery is needed to cut open that area to release the pressure (fasciotomy).

I'm not completely up to date on recovery time for compartment syndrome, but given that he's out 2-3 months, i'm concerned about two things. 1) he may have a femur fracture (which kinda makes sense, as fracture is the leading cause of compartment syndrome, but it's hard to fracture that bone, but it's hockey) or 2) he had a soft-tissue injury and skated through the tightness and pain, which may have caused enough damage to muscle/nerve in the short term to require a 2-3 month recovery time.

Everything from the type of injury to the way he skated off the ice to the delayed and then emergent surgery after the game smacks of this diagnosis. As long as there is no irreversible damage to the leg, he should be fine long term without any ill effects.

I wish him a speedy recovery. The vascular guys at Vandy are very good.

Hope this helps. Looks like the Preds are keeping things close to the vest b/c i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and it's not as serious.
- StRayHawk

Wow great post!,and classy

Actually it's been reported that the avalanche is wanting a 1st and top defenseman prospect plus a player, your trade is interesting but they wouldn't be holding any salery especially taking a 2nd round, but who knows? I think bowman will be creative and find a way to get the players he needs and Chicago will be fine going into next season
- MR.Hunter

Swap Panarin for AA and Panik and one of the 2nd's.

Maybe in that case we should be the ones trading with Dallas to get the 3rd pick.
- Feginem

If Chicago could grab that pick the crowd there would franking freak! But what could they offer? Avalanche have duchene available, the preds have possibly a top 4 dman (ellis?),Anaheim possibly has a top 4 (Vatanen? ) Minnesota they all have protection problems that could be traded before the expansion draft? Would Vancouver trade Tanev +5oa for 3oa? Cause apparently Dallas in looking for a top 4 and I don't think hammer alone would be enough? Hammer 1st and Debrincat? For the 3oa and a d prospect?

Swap Panarin for AA and Panik and one of the 2nd's.
- HawkintheD

But their looking for a top 4 +dman prospect! They talked about if it was boston it would be Carlo or Mcavoy plus a first, I myself wouldn't do it ,but the avalanche want a 1st a+defensive prospect doesn't mean that they'll get it but i guess who evers looking for scoring?

But their looking for a top 4 +dman prospect! They talked about if it was boston it would be Carlo or Mcavoy plus a first, I myself wouldn't do it ,but the avalanche want a 1st a+defensive prospect doesn't mean that they'll get it but i guess who evers looking for scoring?
- MR.Hunter

Gotcha. Hawks don't currently possess any of those other than possibly Forsling which is no guarantee...next

Gotcha. Hawks don't currently possess any of those other than possibly Forsling which is no guarantee...next
- HawkintheD

Might have to deal with Kempny and Forsling and maybe Gus getting alot of OJT this year. No other choice. Could be a rough year, but there is little else option wise unless Stan unloads some big money. Or is this the year that Pokke finally comes up??

Rockford +/- as a team, -328! Geezus

Gotcha. Hawks don't currently possess any of those other than possibly Forsling which is no guarantee...next
- HawkintheD

And Forsling is not Carlo or McCavoy. I think Carlo is actually from CO too. If the Avs move Landeskog it may be for him. Bruins have drafted very well at the position under Sweeney. Carlo was a 2nd rounder.

Might have to deal with Kempny and Forsling and maybe Gus getting alot of OJT this year. No other choice. Could be a rough year, but there is little else option wise unless Stan unloads some big money. Or is this the year that Pokke finally comes up??

Rockford +/- as a team, -328! Geezus
- z1990z

If they can sign this Rutta kid, and deal say, 2-3 forwards, and prospects to upgrade the forward unit, then they should just play. Top 3, Kempny, Rutta Forsling and keep it. Let them learn.

I don't know anything that you said besides blood flow blockage, but that sounds very serious. Best of luck in Johansen's recovery. Good hockey player and a young guy so hopefully he bounces back. If you can elaborate on the injury that'd be awesome. I watched a clip of his last shift and he looked uncomfortable and whinced, but still jumped the boards. Thanks!
- EnzoD

Sounded more like an Urlacher situation as described on the radio.... but what do they know.

He has played well. Been a very streaky player. His contract should be interesting. Hope he gets his chance to go home to Vancouver. Been his wish since Columbus. The hit by Manson looked clean - unlike so much other garbage going uncalled in these playoffs. RJ and Subban certainly did their share in the 1st. Live by the sword....

Even Pierre has been calling out the officiating. NHL should fire Walkom and turn back the clock to 13. Open things back up.

Sounded more like an Urlacher situation as described on the radio.... but what do they know.

He has played well. Been a very streaky player. His contract should be interesting. Hope he gets his chance to go home to Vancouver. Been his wish since Columbus. The hit by Manson looked clean - unlike so much other garbage going uncalled in these playoffs. RJ and Subban certainly did their share in the 1st. Live by the sword....

Even Pierre has been calling out the officiating. NHL should fire Walkom and turn back the clock to 13. Open things back up.
- tredbrta

Playoff hockey is more like a Sturgis bar fight then hockey. Its out of control in terms of the hack/whack and the hook/grab crap. But if that is the trend and it sure appears to be the case, Hawks need to adjust the roster to play that way. Meaning have the physical presence to fight through that.

If they can sign this Rutta kid, and deal say, 2-3 forwards, and prospects to upgrade the forward unit, then they should just play. Top 3, Kempny, Rutta Forsling and keep it. Let them learn.
- 93Joe

Does anyone think Kempny is going to help recruit the kid after his treatment last year? Looks like they are in competition with at least Edmonton and Calgary.

I'm hoping someone like Ulf can offer more help to these players at the NHL level. Colliton looks like a solid development move. Ulf may be as well. Richard as a player but good rep as a coach.

Playoff hockey is more like a Sturgis bar fight then hockey. Its out of control in terms of the hack/whack and the hook/grab crap. But if that is the trend and it sure appears to be the case, Hawks need to adjust the roster to play that way. Meaning have the physical presence to fight through that.
- z1990z

Great line

Playoff hockey is more like a Sturgis bar fight then hockey. Its out of control in terms of the hack/whack and the hook/grab crap. But if that is the trend and it sure appears to be the case, Hawks need to adjust the roster to play that way. Meaning have the physical presence to fight through that.
- z1990z

Yep, they haven't adjusted enough. However, the NHL is making a mistake allowing this to continue to devolve. Each year since 13 the dropoff increases. Walkom style "situational officiating" is simply garbage. It results in blatant non calls like what we saw in the OT preds/ducks game the other night. 2 or 3 non calls on blatant penalties by the preds in the last few seconds and then the reverse in OT. The result - everyone thinks the officiating sucks - because it does.

When Friedman and Pierre are calling it a serious problem on twitter and on national broadcasts the NHL may want to address it. I won't hold my breath though.

Sounded more like an Urlacher situation as described on the radio.... but what do they know.

He has played well. Been a very streaky player. His contract should be interesting. Hope he gets his chance to go home to Vancouver. Been his wish since Columbus. The hit by Manson looked clean - unlike so much other garbage going uncalled in these playoffs. RJ and Subban certainly did their share in the 1st. Live by the sword....

Even Pierre has been calling out the officiating. NHL should fire Walkom and turn back the clock to 13. Open things back up.
- tredbrta

Well, if you read McCann's blog - it's the Ducks who are getting away with everything. Guy even had the stones to call out how Rinne has been hit a few times. Which is ironic, because in my estimation the most egregious part of the series has been how much goalie interference Nashville has been able to get away with on Gibson. The whacks, slashes, cross checks, clutching, grabbing, etc. seem to be fairly even between both teams - but Nashville has a decided edge in goalie running.