Probably isn't a deal then ....we can find someone else for a lot less who could end up better and is younger than Cory
- Redmile247

That's good then Because I wouldn't be happy to see a knee jerk move like that happen.

Im just not sold on how far behind the block you guys think we are. We have the first overall pick in this years draft, 10 additional picks, loads of cap space with almost no one set to get a raise and no issue with losing players to expansion. We are in prime condition to take advantage of a lot of good teams and there will be a lot of good players that choices will need to be made on from those teams in need. So I have little doubt with the amount of cap and the amount and the quality of the picks we have plus internal growth that we can absolutely compete for the play offs next year. We could sign Shattenkirk we have the space and are close to new york ( it will be hard for them to land him and Kovy ) like you guys are blind to where we really sit in all of this. I wouldn't be moving Schneider unless its is for a premium return.
- blizzzard

If the only thing that getus Schneider is Johnny or Tkachuk then Calgary is looking elsewhere for a goaltender. It's as simple as that. Perfectly fine if Shero wants to keep Schneider in the fold, but Calgary's got some high-end, near NHL ready defensive prospects that NJ could certainly use. A trade between the Flames and the Devils makes a lot of sense for that reason. I'll admit I may have been lowballing but there's no way Calgary considers any trade that involves Johnny. Goalies don't get traded for players like that.

If the only thing that getus Schneider is Johnny or Tkachuk then Calgary is looking elsewhere for a goaltender. It's as simple as that. Perfectly fine if Shero wants to keep Schneider in the fold, but Calgary's got some high-end, near NHL ready defensive prospects that NJ could certainly use. A trade between the Flames and the Devils makes a lot of sense for that reason. I'll admit I may have been lowballing but there's no way Calgary considers any trade that involves Johnny. Goalies don't get traded for players like that.
- Helios

Thats fine I totally get that he is untouchable but if I was you guys I would be thinking long and hard about Tkchuk for him. We also have 11 picks in this years draft to try and stock the cupboards plus I imagine there will be good deals on nhl defence man come this off season so I am not worried about the d cupboards if I can get some help on d in the NHL and I don't need to trade Schneider to do that.

We got Kyle Palmieri for two second and we have two second in the next two drafts so I am confident we can get a competent NHL player on the back end this off season that not only fits the skill but age we are geared at so again I am not pushing people out of line to move Schneider for defensive prospects when the real need is in the NHL and we have lots of opportunities the next two drafts to stock up if we choose with D prospects.

If the only thing that getus Schneider is Johnny or Tkachuk then Calgary is looking elsewhere for a goaltender. It's as simple as that. Perfectly fine if Shero wants to keep Schneider in the fold, but Calgary's got some high-end, near NHL ready defensive prospects that NJ could certainly use. A trade between the Flames and the Devils makes a lot of sense for that reason. I'll admit I may have been lowballing but there's no way Calgary considers any trade that involves Johnny. Goalies don't get traded for players like that.
- Helios

what if the said goalie is Carey Price?

what if the said goalie is Carey Price?
- fidopro

I'm listening ....

I'm listening ....
- Redmile247

I'm sure Bergevin is also listening. Make your best offer boys and girls!

I'm sure Bergevin is also listening. Make your best offer boys and girls!
- fidopro

Brouwer, Bouma, and a 4th.

I'm sure Bergevin is also listening. Make your best offer boys and girls!
- fidopro

Problem with any price trade is it would cost a lot ...

I would love to add a goalie like that but I think they are better off paying less for a guy like grubauer

Brouwer, Bouma, and a 4th.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

you'll have to do a lot better

Problem with any price trade is it would cost a lot ...

I would love to add a goalie like that but I think they are better off paying less for a guy like grubauer
- Redmile247

oh not the same cost for sure,
not the same goalie either,

Grubauer could very well end up in Vegas, maybe they'll flip him to you guys

oh the not the same cost for sure,
not the same goalie either,

Grubauer could very well end up in Vegas, maybe they'll flip him to you guys
- fidopro

They could just trade for him right now ...

They could just trade for him right now ...
- Redmile247

I guess, two 2nd round picks?

Price is a different story entirely. He just costs way too much. He'd be worth whatever we'd have to give up, but I'm not a fan of giving up that much for him.

There are several good, cheap options for us to look at far before we turn to Price, and as much as I'd love to have Carey Price on my team (who wouldn't?), but considering what we'd have to give up I'd much rather look elsewhere.

I guess, two 2nd round picks?
- fidopro

No

Look at the Scott darling trade

No

Look at the Scott darling trade
- Redmile247

not at all the same thing. Darling was going to be a UFA on July 1st. they were losing him anyway, forget Vegas.
Grubauer is a RFA.

not at all the same thing. Darling was going to be a UFA on July 1st. they were losing him anyway, forget Vegas.
Grubauer is a RFA.
- fidopro

Caps will still lose him though ...I get the difference between RFA and UFA plays ...but not at a difference of a 3rd rounder to 2 2nds

Thats fine I totally get that he is untouchable but if I was you guys I would be thinking long and hard about Tkchuk for him. We also have 11 picks in this years draft to try and stock the cupboards plus I imagine there will be good deals on nhl defence man come this off season so I am not worried about the d cupboards if I can get some help on d in the NHL and I don't need to trade Schneider to do that.
- blizzzard

Not a chance. Schneider is a great goalie, if the price is Gaudreau or Tacks then Shero isn't really wanting to trade him. Wrong window for Schneider & this draft isn't a well regarded draft so your 11 picks aren't about to make you a playoff team. After your 1st overall, you will be waiting awhile before you see any make it to the bigs. You can't rebuild with 1 year of mega draft picks. It's also a saturated soft goalie market, if Shero is serious at his rebuild, he should be taking a hard look if he can pry a Kylington & the #16 pick. You guys have a couple of really good young goalies that seem really close, would be a great time to see if one of them can pull a Murray.

Caps will still lose him though ...I get the difference between RFA and UFA plays ...but not at a difference of a 3rd rounder to 2 2nds
- Redmile247

Most probably yes. I looked at the Caps protected list. One has to assume Vegas will pick Grubauer, unless Wash makes a deal with them so they don't.

Most probably yes. I looked at the Caps protected list. One has to assume Vegas will pick Grubauer. Unless Wash makes a deal with them so they don't.
- fidopro

With Holtby why would they keep him ?

With Holtby why would they keep him ?
- Redmile247

I understand CGY fans may not know this, but having 2 good goalies is pretty cool

I understand CGY fans may not know this, but having 2 good goalies is pretty cool
- fidopro

Why did you trade one then ? The cheaper one too ....seems odd when your paying your big boys a lot


I'd be happy with one

Why did you trade one then ? The cheaper one too ....seems odd when your paying your big boys a lot


I'd be happy with one
- Redmile247

because Darling was going to ask for #1 money, proof is he got it in CAR. no way can the Hawks match that for a backup.

because Darling was going to ask for #1 money, proof is he got it in CAR. no way can the Hawks match that for a backup.
- fidopro

Why not pay darling and trade Crawford ?

Not a chance. Schneider is a great goalie, if the price is Gaudreau or Tacks then Shero isn't really wanting to trade him. Wrong window for Schneider & this draft isn't a well regarded draft so your 11 picks aren't about to make you a playoff team. After your 1st overall, you will be waiting awhile before you see any make it to the bigs. You can't rebuild with 1 year of mega draft picks. It's also a saturated soft goalie market, if Shero is serious at his rebuild, he should be taking a hard look if he can pry a Kylington & the #16 pick. You guys have a couple of really good young goalies that seem really close, would be a great time to see if one of them can pull a Murray.
- Kevin R

Exactly. If Shero's asking price is Johnny or Tkachuk then it's pretty clear he doesn't want to trade Schneider. Treliving's not an idiot and won't even consider making that trade, and Shero knows that if that's what he offers. Neither of those two guys are idiots and if Shero says "Gaudreau or Tkachuk or no deal" he's going to be saying that knowing full well it's no deal, which is fine.

I'm not sure how highly he values Schneider, but if he actually considers trading Schneider he knows that asking for Gaudreau or Tkachuk is insanity. Regardless, Calgary isn't banking on Schneider, and they have several options elsewhere to pursue.