Ya, I'm not sure why this isn't something the media has thrown around. It seems to make sense from both sides. Don't follow NJD enough to know what their biggest need is. Probably scoring fwds? Any idea what it would take. My first thought would be 2017 1st + Mangiapane. Might not be enough though.
- dr_soiledpants

Ha good joke. We need defense and bad.

But yeah, 1st and a decent prospect is definitely in the ballpark.

Ha good joke. We need defense and bad.

But yeah, 1st and a decent prospect is definitely in the ballpark.
- willschulme

What is the need, an NHL ready guy, then Kulak is probably the guy & we can't protect him which makes me nervous. Or a high ceiling one that still needs another year in the AHL like Kylington? This kid needs to get his defensive part of the game in his end nailed down but has the offensive tools to be a Karlsson. He dropped from being a projected top 10 pick to end of the 2nd round in his draft year. That's a lot of upside.

Ya, I'm not sure why this isn't something the media has thrown around. It seems to make sense from both sides. Don't follow NJD enough to know what their biggest need is. Probably scoring fwds? Any idea what it would take. My first thought would be 2017 1st + Mangiapane. Might not be enough though.
- dr_soiledpants

Like you, I'm not sure what it will take or if either side would want to make a deal. All I know is Devils are at least 3-4 years away from even competing at a high level and Calgary's window is just opening on being a "contending" team if they get the right goalie I believe. Cory's best days are now, the Devils best days won't come for years. Calgary has the pieces (good young prospects/picks) to make a trade, even the one you mentioned is probably not off base.

What is the need, an NHL ready guy, then Kulak is probably the guy & we can't protect him which makes me nervous. Or a high ceiling one that still needs another year in the AHL like Kylington? This kid needs to get his defensive part of the game in his end nailed down but has the offensive tools to be a Karlsson. He dropped from being a projected top 10 pick to end of the 2nd round in his draft year. That's a lot of upside.
- Kevin R

I don't think anyone would take Kulak as the main prospect of a trade with knowing Vegas could just snipe him...

Who is going to trade several top prospects for Fleury?
- The-O-G

Benning

Johnson said during his year end interview that he wants to be a 1A goalie. I don't think he's going to sign here if we bring in a proven starter.

1st
Shinkaruk
T-spoon

for Schneider?
sys
Be nice if we could get him without giving up one of Rass, Kylington, Fox and Kulak.

I'd rather see one of the young guys get some NHL experience. The 2 vet system hasn't really worked all that well for us the last few years, can we stop doing that please?

Ha good joke. We need defense and bad.

But yeah, 1st and a decent prospect is definitely in the ballpark.
- willschulme

How about we keep our first - but we give you 2 A level prospects (Kylington & Gillies) and 1 A- or B+ prospect (Mangiapane or Shinkaruk or Poirer). This would give Calgary a bonafide # 1, top 7 goalie in the league and at the age range that matches their core group. This would give Jersey an A level defense prospect with huge upside, an A level goaltending prospect to compete with Blackwood as the future starter, and a B+ offensive prospect, also with good upside (especially Mangiapane or Shinkaruk). From Jersey's perspective, they are getting 3 high level prospects that are much closer to playing in the NHL than an 18 year old, and they fill 3 of their organization needs. From Calgary's perspective they get their starter, and the goalie carousel ends, plus they give up no current roster players which helps the "win now" mode. They give up a lot from a prospect perspective, but there are still other prospects who should be ready to fill the shoes of the departed. This is an example from both sides of "giving quality to get quality". Get er done Tre!

Johnson said during his year end interview that he wants to be a 1A goalie. I don't think he's going to sign here if we bring in a proven starter.

1st
Shinkaruk
T-spoon

for Schneider?
sys
Be nice if we could get him without giving up one of Rass, Kylington, Fox and Kulak.

I'd rather see one of the young guys get some NHL experience. The 2 vet system hasn't really worked all that well for us the last few years, can we stop doing that please?
- Saskabush

I agree, but if it takes one of them to get Schneider, i think you have to pull the trigger.

How about we keep our first - but we give you 2 A level prospects (Kylington & Gillies) and 1 A- or B+ prospect (Mangiapane or Shinkaruk or Poirer). This would give Calgary a bonafide # 1, top 7 goalie in the league and at the age range that matches their core group. This would give Jersey an A level defense prospect with huge upside, an A level goaltending prospect to compete with Blackwood as the future starter, and a B+ offensive prospect, also with good upside (especially Mangiapane or Shinkaruk). From Jersey's perspective, they are getting 3 high level prospects that are much closer to playing in the NHL than an 18 year old, and they fill 3 of their organization needs. From Calgary's perspective they get their starter, and the goalie carousel ends, plus they give up no current roster players which helps the "win now" mode. They give up a lot from a prospect perspective, but there are still other prospects who should be ready to fill the shoes of the departed. This is an example from both sides of "giving quality to get quality". Get er done Tre!
- hags11

To get this straight, you would give up a package of Kylington, Gillies and Shinkaruk for Schneider?

I agree, but if it takes one of them to get Schneider, i think you have to pull the trigger.
- dr_soiledpants

Kylington would fill a huge need for the Devils. 19 year old LHD that just put up 30 points in the AHL while most players that age are still in juniors. I'd have to seriously consider any offer that included him if I was Shero.

Maybe because he fully plans on being in NJ, I mean he did sign a long term contract knowing how crap and bleak the future looked... This is what I don't get is no one takes into account the human part and I know a lot of people really hate hearing it but maybe he really wants to be part of what NJ plans on doing. I really don't think he has any intentions of asking for a trade.

Kylington would fill a huge need for the Devils. 19 year old LHD that just put up 30 points in the AHL while most players that age are still in juniors. I'd have to seriously consider any offer that included him if I was Shero.
- smellmyfinger

I would take Tkchuk or Johnny hockey like I said in the Devils thread and if that doesn't interest them then Im not the one with a goalie issue and a win now mode. If there is no market for goaltenders I keep Cory no need to move an elite asset for pennies.

Maybe because he fully plans on being in NJ, I mean he did sign a long term contract knowing how crap and bleak the future looked... This is what I don't get is no one takes into account the human part and I know a lot of people really hate hearing it but maybe he really wants to be part of what NJ plans on doing. I really don't think he has any intentions of asking for a trade.
- blizzzard

I think he saw an opportunity to be an unquestioned #1 and went with it. Loyalty also probably factored into it. But once a player gets to be 30 years old and they already have that financial security, winning becomes much more important to them.

I don't think he'll ask for a trade, that's not the kind of guy he is. But I think he strongly considers going to a team that can offer him a chance to win a cup.

I would take Tkchuk or Johnny hockey like I said in the Devils thread and if that doesn't interest them then Im not the one with a goalie issue and a win now mode. If there is no market for goaltenders I keep Cory no need to move an elite asset for pennies.
- blizzzard

Calgary won't give you either of them so good luck with that. I really don't think Shero would ask for that either, because he's not insane. Realistically Shink, Poirier and one of T-Spoon, Kylington or Rass would probably be considered. NJ needs defense and we've got defensive prospects to spare.

We wouldn't be getting Schneider for pennies with that deal, either. New Jersey would be getting an A-level D prospect and a couple of B-level FWD prospects with that deal, none of which you'd have to waste a protection slot on (because I doubt Vegas would take Shinkaruk).

Calgary won't give you either of them so good luck with that. I really don't think Shero would ask for that either, because he's not insane. Realistically Shink, Poirier and one of T-Spoon, Kylington or Rass would probably be considered. NJ needs defense and we've got defensive prospects to spare.

We wouldn't be getting Schneider for pennies with that deal, either. New Jersey would be getting an A-level D prospect and a couple of B-level FWD prospects with that deal, none of which you'd have to waste a protection slot on (because I doubt Vegas would take Shinkaruk).
- Helios

Tspoon Poirier shink might all be busts

We aren't trading for Trevor Kidd here people

You want Schneider it will probably take two of :

Ras
Kylington
Kulak
Fox
Gillies
First rounder

Calgary won't give you either of them so good luck with that. I really don't think Shero would ask for that either, because he's not insane. Realistically Shink, Poirier and one of T-Spoon, Kylington or Rass would probably be considered. NJ needs defense and we've got defensive prospects to spare.

We wouldn't be getting Schneider for pennies with that deal, either. New Jersey would be getting an A-level D prospect and a couple of B-level FWD prospects with that deal, none of which you'd have to waste a protection slot on (because I doubt Vegas would take Shinkaruk).
- Helios

We don't have a problem with protecting players as is and We could get a much better young NHL player then a group of prospects for Cory. I am not going to argue with you what is insane and what isn't as I don't believe he will be moved but if he is it will be for something that speeds up the rebuild today not five years from now. We literally have no problem when it comes to goalies, not even a fake media one so really to get an elite player who is in a perfectly fine situation you will need to give up for then what was offered. Like I said I am just as displeased with the flames offer as you seem to be with my ask and again we have absolutely no reason to move him especially for 0 NHL players....

Maybe because he fully plans on being in NJ, I mean he did sign a long term contract knowing how crap and bleak the future looked... This is what I don't get is no one takes into account the human part and I know a lot of people really hate hearing it but maybe he really wants to be part of what NJ plans on doing. I really don't think he has any intentions of asking for a trade.
- blizzzard

Devils gave him a lot of money

I doubt he is turning down the money they have him ...he is human after all

We don't have a problem with protecting players as is and We could get a much better young NHL player then a group of prospects for Cory. I am not going to argue with you what is insane and what isn't as I don't believe he will be moved but if he is it will be for something that speeds up the rebuild today not five years from now. We literally have no problem when it comes to goalies, not even a fake media one so really to get an elite player who is in a perfectly fine situation you will need to give up for then what was offered. Like I said I am just as displeased with the flames offer as you seem to be with my ask and again we have absolutely no reason to move him especially for 0 NHL players....
- blizzzard

I'm high on Cory and think most offers on here are a bit low ....but you have to look at what goalies go for ...they don't get traded for a johnny

Tspoon Poirier shink might all be busts

We aren't trading for Trevor Kidd here people

You want Schneider it will probably take two of :

Ras
Kylington
Kulak
Fox
Gillies
First rounder
- Redmile247

Im just not sold on how far behind the block you guys think we are. We have the first overall pick in this years draft, 10 additional picks, loads of cap space with almost no one set to get a raise and no issue with losing players to expansion. We are in prime condition to take advantage of a lot of good teams and there will be a lot of good players that choices will need to be made on from those teams in need. So I have little doubt with the amount of cap and the amount and the quality of the picks we have plus internal growth that we can absolutely compete for the play offs next year. We could sign Shattenkirk we have the space and are close to new york ( it will be hard for them to land him and Kovy ) like you guys are blind to where we really sit in all of this. I wouldn't be moving Schneider unless its is for a premium return.

I would take Tkchuk or Johnny hockey like I said in the Devils thread and if that doesn't interest them then Im not the one with a goalie issue and a win now mode. If there is no market for goaltenders I keep Cory no need to move an elite asset for pennies.
- blizzzard

No it wouldn't.

If the Devils wanted to trade Schneider (maybe they actually think they can be competitive in a year or 2, who knows) it would probably be for a package very similar to what has been posted on here.

If I were the Devils:
-Trade Schneider for a 1st and some much needed prospects
-Try to pry the 3rd overall out of Dallas--offer to take Niemi to get a bit of a deal.
-Use Kinkaid and Niemi as 1a/1b. Play Niemi for as many names as necessary to give them the best odds in the draft lottery.

If the Devils could draft 1, 3 & 16 and get another high pick in next years draft then the rebuild could be fairly short lived. Blackwood could ready for NHL time by the time Nico/Nolan, Zacha & co are hitting their stride.

I'm high on Cory and think most offers on here are a bit low ....but you have to look at what goalies go for ...they don't get traded for a johnny
- Redmile247

They don't but players who aren't available always go for more you are paying to uproot a situation that isn't even a problem. The Johnny hockey ask was me telling you I don't think he moves and if he did it would have to take something like that or a young stud who has proved something in the NHL ( Tkchuk ).

Benning
- DDM-Coga

wow if anybody is going to make that trade, its lombardi.

No it wouldn't.

If the Devils wanted to trade Schneider (maybe they actually think they can be competitive in a year or 2, who knows) it would probably be for a package very similar to what has been posted on here.

If I were the Devils:
-Trade Schneider for a 1st and some much needed prospects
-Try to pry the 3rd overall out of Dallas--offer to take Niemi to get a bit of a deal.
-Use Kinkaid and Niemi as 1a/1b. Play Niemi for as many names as necessary to give them the best odds in the draft lottery.

If the Devils could draft 1, 3 & 16 and get another high pick in next years draft then the rebuild could be fairly short lived. Blackwood could ready for NHL time by the time Nico/Nolan, Zacha & co are hitting their stride.
- Saskabush

We are just as ready to add Taylor Hall type Pieces as we are to add numerous first round picks. Like I said we are no where near as far of as you guys think. I have no doubt Cory Returns to .920 form and that there will be drastic additions not subtractions. We are loaded up to add not sell Ray plans on packing picks and taking advantage of teams in trouble. We are 2 competent blue liners away from seriously battling for a play off spot and when we get those we will be a lot closer to the cup then calgary because we have an elite goalie and you guys are still telling everyone it is to expensive.

Im just not sold on how far behind the block you guys think we are. We have the first overall pick in this years draft, 10 additional picks, loads of cap space with almost no one set to get a raise and no issue with losing players to expansion. We are in prime condition to take advantage of a lot of good teams and there will be a lot of good players that choices will need to be made on from those teams in need. So I have little doubt with the amount of cap and the amount and the quality of the picks we have plus internal growth that we can absolutely compete for the play offs next year. We could sign Shattenkirk we have the space and are close to new york ( it will be hard for them to land him and Kovy ) like you guys are blind to where we really sit in all of this. I wouldn't be moving Schneider unless its is for a premium return.
- blizzzard

Any team looking to acquire Cory would be in win now ...you are not getting a premium return via roster player ...it would be high end prospects

I guess you could just keep Schneider and by the time he is 35 you'll be ready to contend ...you'll just probably need to find a new goalie after a year or two ...good luck

They don't but players who aren't available always go for more you are paying to uproot a situation that isn't even a problem. The Johnny hockey ask was me telling you I don't think he moves and if he did it would have to take something like that or a young stud who has proved something in the NHL ( Tkchuk ).
- blizzzard

Probably isn't a deal then ....we can find someone else for a lot less who could end up better and is younger than Cory