By best value did you not mean the cheapest player who puts up points ?
- Redmile247

ELC's should be exempt from our clinical study

I could be wrong, but i thought they had till june 1st to decide and they were leaning towards keeping it.
- dbot

Yes on the first. I hadn't head that they were keeping it though. I don't think they will replicate their success again next year... so i would love out of we didn't get it..... although i think 56ov this year is like a 4th tinder in an average draft year

Agree to disagree... only time will tell but i see this year as 99 lite.... you two will be all stars, handful of vets out of the top ten.... some depth role players in the top 25.... a few may drop... and lots of fodder and scraps from there on out.

Ill be ecstatic to be proven wrong but that's my take.

Look at the league leaders this year.... they're mostly 2018 reliable players or overagers.

Connor mcdavid .....
- Redmile247

Not long term

23 year old 30 goal scorer earning 3.8 for 5 more years is greater than 1 more year of mcdavid then 11 million aav for long term

Yes on the first. I hadn't head that they were keeping it though. I don't think they will replicate their success again next year... so i would love out of we didn't get it..... although i think 56ov this year is like a 4th tinder in an average draft year

Agree to disagree... only time will tell but i see this year as 99 lite.... you two will be all stars, handful of vets out of the top ten.... some depth role players in the top 25.... a few may drop... and lots of fodder and scraps from there on out.

Ill be ecstatic to be proven wrong but that's my take.

Look at the league leaders this year.... they're mostly 2018 reliable players or overagers.
- Pres.cup

already proven, you're wrong.

ELC's should be exempt from our clinical study
- onesmallleap

Ok fair enough

...with a raspberry & balsamic reduction and served with a Pinot Noir.
- Marwood

oh god yes.

By best value did you not mean the cheapest player who puts up points ?
- Redmile247

Toews is so cheap he wouldn't even buy a round of water at a dinner.

Does that makes him the best value?

Toews is so cheap he wouldn't even buy a round of water at a dinner.

Does that makes him the best value?
- Pres.cup

Sure i would.
Tanev and late 2nd for the 3rd over all? i'd be all over that, but i still think Dallas could do better elsewhere.

I would not want to go 'all in' on the 3rd OA tho and add all those pieces.
- dbot

That works. Could work for Stars too. If you don't think it's enough for them they could add cap dump Lehtonen.

already proven, you're wrong.
- Crazybagoham

Oh.... crap, I must have missed the draft and the following seasons 2017-27.

Could you please provide me a link to the historical NHL production of the 2017 draft picks, please?

I love when people speak in absolutes, it makes it so difficult to point out faults in their reasoning.

Please go on.

Well, we would have 3 and 5. So at that point it gives us a lot of options. I really like Vilardi. At 5 we could pick Tippett or a d-man.
- neem55

Mittelstadt and makar/heiskanen/liljegren

The beauty of the no3 pick is its possible someone takes a surprise pick with the no1 or 2 and makes 1 of Nico or nolan available.

Mittelstadt and makar/heiskanen/liljegren

The beauty of the no3 pick is its possible someone takes a surprise pick with the no1 or 2 and makes 1 of Nico or nolan available.
- SMBDragon

Yes, or we could try to move up into the top two with it.

Tanev for DAL goalie and 3rd overall wouldn't be a stretch. Both teams win. I doubt DAL does it, but it would be a huge win for VAN
- Codes1087

since dallas has taken calls on it its sure to be a bidding war. Price escalates.

Could also suggest 5oa + cbj 2nd for the 3oa

or 5oa + subban for 3oa

not sure itd be what dallas wants but its an idea. Then they still retain a high 1st

here's a way to get Dallas to listen ..we trade Tanev , Edler, Megna and the 33rd for Niemi, Lehtonen, the 3rd pick, and the rights to Nichuskin(sp)?

here's a way to get Dallas to listen ..we trade Tanev , Edler, Megna and the 33rd for Niemi, Lehtonen, the 3rd pick, and the rights to Nichuskin(sp)?
- onesmallleap

No.

No.
- Jkuzzi

really ...please don't get to deep into it
People on here hate Edler and Megna so ,Check they are gone , People on this board want to suck next year , Check with those goalies and our depleted defence we are going to be hard to be worse than, i guess the hang-up might be that some on here think the 33rd > 3rd , and well you can't teach stupid i guess so i'll give you that. A mystery russian piece might be the caveate to bring back Tryamkin so there the risk/reward aspect . a win win

since dallas has taken calls on it its sure to be a bidding war. Price escalates.

Could also suggest 5oa + cbj 2nd for the 3oa

or 5oa + subban for 3oa

not sure itd be what dallas wants but its an idea. Then they still retain a high 1st
- SMBDragon

Yeah that would be a classic trade down idea. But what has been reported and what Stars say they need is not picks and prospects. They want an NHL player for their 3OA to help them win now. As for Canucks they don't need to trade up from 5-3 won't make a difference to them. Losing picks not a good rebuild move either.

Yes, or we could try to move up into the top two with it.
- Pres.cup

if the 2oa is available then go straight for that instead of using assets in each trade.

here's a way to get Dallas to listen ..we trade Tanev , Edler, Megna and the 33rd for Niemi, Lehtonen, the 3rd pick, and the rights to Nichuskin(sp)?
- onesmallleap

nichuskin rights for tryamkin rights is a possible trade just on its own. Neither is coming back to its original team due to issues

nichuskin rights for tryamkin rights is a possible trade just on its own. Neither is coming back to its original team due to issues
- SMBDragon

his KHL team might fold Tryamkin might be back sooner then you think

our whole coaching staff is pretty much new , so unless Tryamkin really hates Jarvis i don't see any lingering hard feelings?

Yeah that would be a classic trade down idea. But what has been reported and what Stars say they need is not picks and prospects. They want an NHL player for their 3OA to help them win now. As for Canucks they don't need to trade up from 5-3 won't make a difference to them. Losing picks not a good rebuild move either.
- Nuck4U

canucks were disappointed in sliding down to 5oa so Im sure it does matter to them.

Yes dallas wants to deal the pick outright but the bonus here is that dallas would still have a 1st rd pick only losing 2 spaces on the board to 5oa and gets a good prospect.

here's a way to get Dallas to listen ..we trade Tanev , Edler, Megna and the 33rd for Niemi, Lehtonen, the 3rd pick, and the rights to Nichuskin(sp)?
- onesmallleap

Just a thought but if Dallas is looking for a top 4 guy, wouldn't vatetin or Ellis or talking to Minnesota be a better option?

his KHL team might fold Tryamkin might be back sooner then you think
- onesmallleap

true.
But he could also then just sign with another KHL team then too. No guarantee he'd be back in van

Just a thought but if Dallas is looking for a top 4 guy, wouldn't vatetin or Ellis or talking to Minnesota be a better option?
- MR.Hunter

I know your a leaves fan but ...DUDE , i just gave them the Enforcer and the Cerebral Assassin , 2 top d in the league

his KHL team might fold Tryamkin might be back sooner then you think

our whole coaching staff is pretty much new , so unless Tryamkin really hates Jarvis i don't see any lingering hard feelings?
- onesmallleap

yes....
But I suspect he was pissed a bit at JB too since he mentioned being offered contract with no AHL and then they try to send him down anyways.
We know he was upset with lidster and lidster hated him reportedly which is why he didnt play for 10 straight games till JB stepped in.

I pray he returns to van