If you're injecting skilled youth into the lineup, you better have some quality in the other areas to support them.

You lost a couple of really good third liners in Hansen and Burrows and will be replacing them with guys like Goldobin and Boeser. While they may have a higher upside long term, they will likely be inconsistent in the short term. You need to upgrade other areas of your lineup to compensate for these changes, let alone the anticipated continued decline of the Sedins.

Upgrading the likes of Skille & Megna is pretty much a necessity unless you want to get thrashed every night like they did their last 20 games.
- YeOldTimer

They got thrashed for the last 20 games in a row for a very simple reason: Other teams that are much better, stepped their game up to push for the playoffs. Upgrading Megna and Skille, you guys are killing me

Next year is going to be sooooo boring I signed up for nude ballroom dancing.
- VANTEL

Ain't that the truth 👍😂

Kevin Woodley was just on the 1040 and saying Canucks should go a different route for goal tending . He says because of the expansion draft there will be a lot of good Goalies that can be had for next to nothing. He said it will be a buyers market .

He singled out Korpisalo on the Blue Jackets that is going to be a number one . He said the kid is very good and CBJ will lose him to expansion or have to trade him.

How about giving them back their second for him

Kevin Woodley was just on the 1040 and saying Canucks should go a different route for goal tending . He says because of the expansion draft there will be a lot of good Goalies that can be had for next to nothing. He said it will be a buyers market .

He singled out Korpisalo on the Blue Jackets that is going to be a number one . He said the kid is very good and CBJ will lose him to expansion or have to trade him.

How about giving them back their second for him
- VANTEL

I think I'd prefer to keep ALL of our pics

Kevin Woodley was just on the 1040 and saying Canucks should go a different route for goal tending . He says because of the expansion draft there will be a lot of good Goalies that can be had for next to nothing. He said it will be a buyers market .

He singled out Korpisalo on the Blue Jackets that is going to be a number one . He said the kid is very good and CBJ will lose him to expansion or have to trade him.

How about giving them back their second for him
- VANTEL

How about you flag yourself.

Kevin Woodley was just on the 1040 and saying Canucks should go a different route for goal tending . He says because of the expansion draft there will be a lot of good Goalies that can be had for next to nothing. He said it will be a buyers market .

He singled out Korpisalo on the Blue Jackets that is going to be a number one . He said the kid is very good and CBJ will lose him to expansion or have to trade him.

How about giving them back their second for him
- VANTEL

A decent idea but I'd rather develop Demko and keep the pick.
Any goalie we get is to gain assets not lose. Eg Lehtinen for a year.
If we do nothing & see if Marky is a #1 or resign Miller is the other ways to go.

I am exactly on the same page. Identify what you require from a 4th liner. Is it Grit? Is it speed? Is it checking? Is it shot suppression? Is it offensive (relative to TOI and competition)? Are they competent to be on the PK? Will they stick up for the team mates and fight?

How many boxes can any of those 4th liners check? I know ideally every player on every team would check all boxes and be a perfect/complete player, but you need to have them fit the bill in some capacity.
- Codes1087

My latest thinking or preference is to move away from traditional 4th line attributes.
Instead of a big tough, grinding, limited offense and limited mins 4th line, i'd like to see us use speed.
Speed on the forecheck, speedy transitions and employ some skill.

This will require really skilled PMD on the backend, which is why i am ok with taking a high end D in the draft.
That's just me.

My latest thinking or preference is to move away from traditional 4th line attributes.
Instead of a big tough, grinding, limited offense and limited mins 4th line, i'd like to see us use speed.
Speed on the forecheck, speedy transitions and employ some skill.

This will require really skilled PMD on the backend, which is why i am ok with taking a high end D in the draft.
That's just me.
- dbot

In todays NHL i want speed & passing skills at every position.
As to how to fill out the role players other skills thats another story.
I like a role player to be a be on the PK & not be a defensive liability.
Any 4th liner oughta be good for 5-10 goals & be aggressive.
The 4th line is also where we can bring in prospects to cut their teeth.
Now that does not mean eg a Goldy but other players who r more than offense.
Come the playoffs or playoff push its unsung heroes that get it done IMO.

A decent idea but I'd rather develop Demko and keep the pick.
Any goalie we get is to gain assets not lose. Eg Lehtinen for a year.
If we do nothing & see if Marky is a #1 or resign Miller is the other ways to go.
- Nighthawk

Agreed.
I want to see a Vet backup for Markstrom next year for reasons already stated.
Provide some support for Marky and hold the fort when he is injured/resting as well as providing stability for the team.

I'd be happy with Niemi/Lehtonen or Steve Mason, Reto Berra, etc.
Whoever is cheap and/or can be flipped for assets at the TDL.

Kevin Woodley was just on the 1040 and saying Canucks should go a different route for goal tending . He says because of the expansion draft there will be a lot of good Goalies that can be had for next to nothing. He said it will be a buyers market .

He singled out Korpisalo on the Blue Jackets that is going to be a number one . He said the kid is very good and CBJ will lose him to expansion or have to trade him.

How about giving them back their second for him
- VANTEL

Id only do the trade after van sees whos available at that spot, looks like a solid young goalie, plus as good as Demko looks dont like putting all the eggs in one basket. Whats the canucks without goalie controversy

Edit: If Gettinger, Scott or Skinner are available with columbus pick would rather take them

Agreed.
I want to see a Vet backup for Markstrom next year for reasons already stated.
Provide some support for Marky and hold the fort when he is injured/resting as well as providing stability for the team.

I'd be happy with Niemi/Lehtonen or Steve Mason, Reto Berra, etc.
Whoever is cheap and/or can be flipped for assets at the TDL.
- dbot

Yes to vet to help Marky but i want a Lehtinen if the Stars sweeten the deal with a pick or asset. Need to keep restocking Utica is my idea of a dual purpose deal.
The other goalies r solid but i want more than only a back up.

In todays NHL i want speed & passing skills at every position.
As to how to fill out the role players other skills thats another story.
I like a role player to be a be on the PK & not be a defensive liability.
Any 4th liner oughta be good for 5-10 goals & be aggressive.
The 4th line is also where we can bring in prospects to cut their teeth.
Now that does not mean eg a Goldy but other players who r more than offense.
Come the playoffs or playoff push its unsung heroes that get it done IMO.
- Nighthawk

This

In todays NHL i want speed & passing skills at every position.
As to how to fill out the role players other skills thats another story.
I like a role player to be a be on the PK & not be a defensive liability.
Any 4th liner oughta be good for 5-10 goals & be aggressive.
The 4th line is also where we can bring in prospects to cut their teeth.
Now that does not mean eg a Goldy but other players who r more than offense.
Come the playoffs or playoff push its unsung heroes that get it done IMO.
- Nighthawk

I disagree, i want elite 4th liners who sign below market contracts without a ntc.
4th liners who are bigger, meaner and faster than average 3rd liners. Players with heart to Win and skill to put up 40 points each. The center needs to be at least 65 percent on faceoffs and be a pk specialist. The left wringer needs to be a shoot out guru who excels scoring shorthanded goals. The right winger needs to be mean and intimidating, 6 foot 5 230 pounds of beast, with a fight card that carries no losers who is smart enough that he draws penalties instead of taking them.
I want the center to put up between 10 and 15 goals, without her getting a whiff of powerplay time.

10 minutes a night each of bonecrushing speed and skill, who have positive corscis, even if you don't count their shots for. And signed at under 1 million per.

If that is our elite 4th line, then we will be a championship caliber team, if not..... we're just a scarred bunch of little pussies.

What did i just see on NBC after the national anthemn??

They do a big beer chugging competition before the puck drop???

America you so crazy.

Yes to vet to help Marky but i want a Lehtinen if the Stars sweeten the deal with a pick or asset. Need to keep restocking Utica is my idea of a dual purpose deal.
The other goalies r solid but i want more than only a back up.
- Nighthawk

yes. obviously you would not target him and that horrendous salary unless Dallas made it worth your while.

Even with the UFA/RFA class this year, he is still a good bet to be a top 30 cap hit for the position. Canucks really messed up not getting him more starts last year to prepare him for this coming season. Its been 7 years since he played over 40 games, and its never happened since hes been in North America
- WhiteLie

Hard to play a guy injured 3/4s of the year

If either is our back up & we eat their salary to gain an asset i'm good with that.
I do agree i want neither as our starter but only in a tandem role at most.
- Nighthawk

Lehtonen is terrible, Niemi was good 7 years ago.

We can get a comparable goalie for half the salary, and flip him at the deadline, I want neither.

Id only do the trade after van sees whos available at that spot, looks like a solid young goalie, plus as good as Demko looks dont like putting all the eggs in one basket. Whats the canucks without goalie controversy

Edit: If Gettinger, Scott or Skinner are available with columbus pick would rather take them
- phyllee

Too late he will be moved at the expansion draft.

Too late he will be moved at the expansion draft.
- VANTEL

Right thats true, i think it would be an alright deal, he does good like a solid young Goalie

Lehtonen is terrible, Niemi was good 7 years ago.

We can get a comparable goalie for half the salary, and flip him at the deadline, I want neither.
- Crazybagoham

U missed the boat entirely 😂😂
Its all about the asset not the 1yr contract.
Flipping goalies at the TDL is rare & usually a dream at that.

Right thats true, i think it would be an alright deal, he does good like a solid young Goalie
- phyllee

Kevin Woodley was extremely high on him . He said he is going to be a number one starter and is a year or two ahead of Demko .

It was a thought . Nothing wrong with haveing a plan B . On top of that you could probably trade Markstom for a third.

Kevin Woodley was extremely high on him . He said he is going to be a number one starter and is a year or two ahead of Demko .

It was a thought . Nothing wrong with haveing a plan B . On top of that you could probably trade Markstom for a third.
- VANTEL

Id still keep Markstrom, he deserves a look at what he can become when hes the starter, Markstrom and Korpisalo would be alright for a rebuilding team, gives more time for Demko aswell since theres no need to rush him

How does Lehtinen/2nd for the SJ 4th sound?
or is there another idea out there?

How does Lehtinen/2nd for the SJ 4th sound?
or is there another idea out there?
- Nighthawk

If canucks are taking on another contract they should send one out. Lehtinen+2nd for Bachman...Dallas can buy him out though cant see them giving that much up for taking salary

Id still keep Markstrom, he deserves a look at what he can become when hes the starter, Markstrom and Korpisalo would be alright for a rebuilding team, gives more time for Demko aswell since theres no need to rush him
- phyllee

I like your thinking other than nobody deserves anything in the Pros.
Its earned only in my books & Marky will get his shot prolly.
That said he has yet to prove he can start 60 games but thats fine.
We have one more year to burn while we rebuild with the following year being more of a gut check time to how we r progressing. Lets use next season wisely.