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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 16 @ 11:52 AM ET
Over the last 3 days Vilardi seems to be encroaching toward that #2 pick in some mocks.


doubt Hextall will go there but will be interesting to see how things play out

- Crimsoninja

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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
Over the last 3 days Vilardi seems to be encroaching toward that #2 pick in some mocks.


doubt Hextall will go there but will be interesting to see how things play out

- Crimsoninja


Only way that happens is if Nico goes 1 and Hextall gets some bad news from Nolan's docs. Very unlikely, and I will be pissed.

Lol at everyone saying Nolan is the "better fit" probably based on highlight videos from the tube. Both players are perfect fits as either will fill their biggest need (prospect with legit 1C potential).
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
Over the last 3 days Vilardi seems to be encroaching toward that #2 pick in some mocks.

- Crimsoninja


And there's that one that has Glass going first, so, yeah, mock drafts ftw.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
Bit over a month till the expansion draft and entry draft. Boring times.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 11:59 AM ET
Bit over a month till the expansion draft and entry draft. Boring times.
- flyer_nutter

the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
- Crimsoninja

Are you suggesting moving the World Cup of Hockey to May?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
- Crimsoninja

A loser tourney to see who picks first through 15th overall.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
- Crimsoninja



Absolutely. They could award a big silver trophy to the winner!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Can you explain the better fit part. I feel like the better player is the better fit, so if hischier is the better player, he would then be the better fit.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hischier or bust.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 16 @ 12:06 PM ET
the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
- Crimsoninja


auction draft for all the pending UFAs. Set up like Mecum car auctions.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
I don't think this Flyers team is deep enough at forward for any fan to look down their collective noses at adding either Patrick or Hischier.
- johndewar


Totally agree. Either one will be a welcome addition. I do kind of expect that NJ takes Hischier because of Patrick's injuries and Nj's desperate need for creative talent at F.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 16 @ 12:08 PM ET
Absolutely. They could award a big silver trophy to the winner!
- MJL

seems like it could work
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
seems like it could work
- Crimsoninja



I think it's worth a shot.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 16 @ 12:22 PM ET
the NHL should really look into holding some sort of tournament during these months to fill time
- Crimsoninja


Agreed.

They could model it after some of the video games out on the market.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

May 16 @ 12:24 PM ET
For lack of better words, does anyone just not care who we get? I'm just thrilled we actually get one of the two (assuming Nico / Nolan go 1 and 2). I've tried hard to pick a favorite over the other but it's been impossible. Both fit a huge need but I just can't give an edge to one over the other.
- arichardson22


A better way of looking at it, perhaps? Imagine that the Flyers finished worst in the NHL, by a large margin. The Devils finished 2nd worst. Ever since December, you've been looking forward to who the #1 prospect was due to your team's terrible record. On lottery night, the Devils get lucky and win the lottery while the Flyers draft 2nd.

Do you still not care who you get?

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't; I just think that it might inspire you to think differently. My point being, people are still thankful to be in this position.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 16 @ 12:26 PM ET
Poulin was the man! Played playoff games with cracked ribs, a broken thumb, dislocated shoulders and probably other injuries we never knew about.

In the pantheon of Flyer's Captains, only Clarke ranks above Mr. Class, Dave Poulin

- BiggE


Eh, he was no Mike Richards, who was no Kevin Dineen.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 16 @ 12:27 PM ET
As long as Patrick isn't the same thing as Dylan Strome......right??? Right!!??
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
My two cents:

If there is a 1A/1B debate for the top-2 picks, you take the player who's been touted longer, and that is Patrick. He's the one who's had all of the pressure on him since he was 15, and he's the one who has (injuries aside) lived up to them. Same way that Legwand was the 1B to Lecavalier's 1A.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 12:46 PM ET
A better way of looking at it, perhaps? Imagine that the Flyers finished worst in the NHL, by a large margin. The Devils finished 2nd worst. Ever since December, you've been looking forward to who the #1 prospect was due to your team's terrible record. On lottery night, the Devils get lucky and win the lottery while the Flyers draft 2nd.

Do you still not care who you get?

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't; I just think that it might inspire you to think differently. My point being, people are still thankful to be in this position.

- steelydan


I don't think he's not. I think his point is now that the chips have fallen, there's no downside here.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
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- YuenglingJagr


Ty.

I hope the mods ban him so that each time he hits submit, his post disappears with no explanation.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
Hischier or bust.
- Tomahawk


My boy!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
auction draft for all the pending UFAs. Set up like Mecum car auctions.
- Streit2ThePoint


lol a bunch of rich guys engaged in a pissing contest trying to outbid each other
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ty.

I hope the mods ban him so that each time he hits submit, his post disappears with no explanation.

- PhillySportsGuy


lol
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
Can you explain the better fit part. I feel like the better player is the better fit, so if hischier is the better player, he would then be the better fit.
- PhillySportsGuy


This better fit argument has never made sense to me either. I'm not sure why Patrick is a better fit in theory, if they both pan out as hoped. A team with big 2-way centers who needs scoring and dynamic qualities badly (while still getting a 2-way center) seems the fit to me.

That said, theories aside, I'm not convinced who is the better player. It really is that close to me where they each bring different things to the table. Can't lose here.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
My two cents:

If there is a 1A/1B debate for the top-2 picks, you take the player who's been touted longer, and that is Patrick. He's the one who's had all of the pressure on him since he was 15, and he's the one who has (injuries aside) lived up to them. Same way that Legwand was the 1B to Lecavalier's 1A.

- jmatchett383

Same way that MacKinnon was the 1B to Seth Jone's 1A
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