Well. He played very well over 6 playoff games and did improve his play near the end of the season, but hasnt been consistently good enough over a long enough stretch to be Labelled "very good" just yet imo.
He will be around for a few years and had his best year for sure.
- Fakepartofme

I really dont understand what Fans want with players sometimes

he is not Nik lidstrom we get it. but he has been very good. No need to drop the very part

As would I, but what if Manson is not available?
- PatC80

That's up to Lou. There are few teams with well-documented expansion related issues. He's got to strike that balance to win these pieces. The league has leverage over these teams but have to compete with each other. (This actually kind of worries me considering the moves GM's tend to make in bidding situations)

As would I, but what if Manson is not available?
- PatC80

Then maybe pay the premium to get trouba. Or settle on Brendan smith.

not a lot of good options out there for that type of player.

As would I, but what if Manson is not available?
- PatC80

Have a look at their lineup, they will be making moves.
If they protect 4 d-man - Bieksa,Fowler,Lindholm,Vatanen (Biesksa must be protected unless he waves his NTC - and why would he? - live in California on a very good team)
Forwards - Getzlaf,Perry,Kessler,Silfverberg,Rakell,Cogliano, Goalie - Gibson. Its not only a d-man they will expose, they will need to expose at least one, probably two very good forwards. Moves coming.

I do find it both wonderful and frightening that the Leafs currently have only two defencemen worth protecting in the upcoming expansion draft.

But it does put us in a strong position leading up to the expansion draft for tradesies.

Get 'er done, Lou.

Get Lou a sandwich, Kyle.

P.S. Anyone having trouble with posting today?

Have a look at their lineup, they will be making moves.
If they protect 4 d-man - Bieksa,Fowler,Lindholm,Vatanen (Biesksa must be protected unless he waves his NTC - and why would he? - live in California on a very good team)
Forwards - Getzlaf,Perry,Kessler,Silfverberg,Rakell,Cogliano, Goalie - Gibson. Its not only a d-man they will expose, they will need to expose at least one, probably two very good forwards. Moves coming.
- winsix

Getzlaf,Perry,Kessler,Silfverberg,Rakell,Cogliano,jvr

lindolm, vatanen, fowler (buyout bieksa)

and they still have despres, theodore and montour

I really dont understand what Fans want with players sometimes

he is not Nik lidstrom we get it. but he has been very good. No need to drop the very part
- senstroll

I agree, he played well above expectations, no reason he can't improve on that. This is where coaching has some impact. Talent is there, not sure why people lust after scoring d-men that were drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, when there is a good 3-4 guy drafted in the 1st with good talent and some upside.

What the hell is going on with this site?
- Atomic Wedgie

Ya.. whats up...it's gone all fuky..

Ya.. whats up...it's gone all fuky..
- Fruitcakenipple

Server migration...gone poorly

20 min ago
- Fruitcakenipple

Any links?

Server migration...gone poorly
- AdamFrench

I do find it both wonderful and frightening that the Leafs currently have only two defencemen worth protecting in the upcoming expansion draft.

But it does put us in a strong position leading up to the expansion draft for tradesies.

Get 'er done, Lou.

Get Lou a sandwich, Kyle.

P.S. Anyone having trouble with posting today?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yep, keeps deleting my first reply post. I now copy to clipboard before hitting send, let the site mess up and then ctrl-v back into the message window and hit submit.

Any links?
- the_eye

not me...stopped watching hockey when the Leafs got eliminated..

- markmark

That's up to Lou. There are few teams with well-documented expansion related issues. He's got to strike that balance to win these pieces. The league has leverage over these teams but have to compete with each other. (This actually kind of worries me considering the moves GM's tend to make in bidding situations)
- markmark

I don't mind the idea of Smith, I think they could get value there

- markmark

I don't mind the idea of Smith, I think they could get value there
- PatC80

Yeah that's what I thought until I watched him in the series with the Rangers vs Sens. Would rather keep Carrick given his age and salary, still has room to grow.

Getzlaf,Perry,Kessler,Silfverberg,Rakell,Cogliano,jvr

lindolm, vatanen, fowler (buyout bieksa)

and they still have despres, theodore and montour
- Tumbleweed

No relief on his cap hit of $4 Million, as a player 35+. Full $4 million against the cap, not sure they can afford to do that without a move.

Then maybe pay the premium to get trouba. Or settle on Brendan smith.

not a lot of good options out there for that type of player.
- Tumbleweed

No relief on his cap hit of $4 Million, as a player 35+. Full $4 million against the cap, not sure they can afford to do that without a move.
- winsix

Bet a guy like Chayka will try to take Bieksa + pick or prospect

No relief on his cap hit of $4 Million, as a player 35+. Full $4 million against the cap, not sure they can afford to do that without a move.
- winsix

Isn't the 35+ rule only for players that sign new contracts when they're 35 years or older?

I do find it both wonderful and frightening that the Leafs currently have only two defencemen worth protecting in the upcoming expansion draft.

But it does put us in a strong position leading up to the expansion draft for tradesies.

Get 'er done, Lou.

Get Lou a sandwich, Kyle.

P.S. Anyone having trouble with posting today?
- Atomic Wedgie

you probably have the wannacry virus

Getzlaf,Perry,Kessler,Silfverberg,Rakell,Cogliano,jvr

lindolm, vatanen, fowler (buyout bieksa)

and they still have despres, theodore and montour
- Tumbleweed

Don't have to be protected.

Don't have to be protected.
- Matthews_Auston

poorly worded.

meant they have a solid top 6, without manson there.

Any links?
- the_eye

IIHF streams the game live on youtube but with some geo blocking depending on where you live.

I use the Opera browser that has a built in VPN and set my location to Singapore, works perfectly.