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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 9:20 PM ET
What I think JB's board looks like for the top 5
Hischier
Patrick
Liljegren
Mittelstadt
Glass
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 15 @ 9:24 PM ET
I wonder if he becomes the next David Pastrnak
- manvanfan


I doubt he lasts that long...that said I do think there a good group of euro's that will be interesting in the 1st round.

Personally I think some team is going to get a star in Tolvanen in the middle of the draft.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
Okay they can cause of no waiver risk. But if they are ready. Like we are talking about 20-22yr olds here. What's the issue? Plus do Nucks really have much to sell that's not part of the rebuild?

Are you hoping for a pump and dump of other players? You realize in the cap tight NHL this is a highly limited move. It's almost getting to be like winning a lotto position in finding a trade partner to take your scraps. Most plugs wind up with no takers at TDL.

Also, Detroit didn't sign plugs to keep players in the minors. They had a stable of good vets so had no spots to integrate a rookie. What Canucks were in place to do before 2014 but drafted poorly after integrating Kesler, Bieksa, Burrows and Hansen.

- Nuck4U


neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
I doubt he lasts that long...that said I do think there a good group of euro's that will be interesting in the 1st round.

Personally I think some team is going to get a star in Tolvanen in the middle of the draft.

- belcherbd


Pedersson might have the slickest hands out of anyone and is 6'2.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
What I think JB's board looks like for the top 5
Hischier
Patrick
Liljegren
Mittelstadt
Glass

- manvanfan


Don't take this personally, but no one cares.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 9:28 PM ET
I doubt he lasts that long...that said I do think there a good group of euro's that will be interesting in the 1st round.

Personally I think some team is going to get a star in Tolvanen in the middle of the draft.

- belcherbd

1 10 Florida Kristian Vesalainen RW Frolunda HC
1 11 Los Angeles Michael Rasmussen C Tri-City
1 12 Carolina Elias Pettersson C Timrå IK
1 13 Winnipeg Juuso Välimäki D Tri-City
1 14 Tampa Bay Eli Tolvanen LW Sioux City
1 15 NY Islanders Klim Kostin RW Dynamo Moscow
1 16 Toronto Callan Foote D Kelowna
1 17 Boston Martin Necas C Kometa Brno
1 18 Calgary Nick Suzuki C Owen Sound
1 19 San Jose Lias Andersson C HV71
1 20 St. Louis Conor Timmins D Sault Ste. Marie

This is the middle of my mock.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 9:32 PM ET
I wonder if he becomes the next David Pastrnak
- manvanfan


I have been saying for awhile now, Glass, Vilardi or Necas will be who I hope are targeted at 5.
Necas has played wing also.
Nucker101 brought his name up a few months back and I followed up on him as best I could. I would be happy with any of 3 above mentioned
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
I just told the wife she gives me irritable bowel syndrome. She asked what is that? I told her she is a pain in the ass
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 9:35 PM ET
Don't take this personally, but no one cares.
- Scooby_Doo


All this speculation bores the crap out of me, we need something REAL to talk about.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 9:35 PM ET
I just told the wife she gives me irritable bowel syndrome. She asked what is that? I told her she is a pain in the ass
- VANTEL


Am I being that yet?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 9:37 PM ET
Am I being that yet?
- Reubenkincade

nope.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 15 @ 9:39 PM ET
I just told the wife she gives me irritable bowel syndrome. She asked what is that? I told her she is a pain in the ass
- VANTEL


A true example there is SFA to argue about b*tches.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 15 @ 9:39 PM ET
1 10 Florida Kristian Vesalainen RW Frolunda HC
1 11 Los Angeles Michael Rasmussen C Tri-City
1 12 Carolina Elias Pettersson C Timrå IK
1 13 Winnipeg Juuso Välimäki D Tri-City
1 14 Tampa Bay Eli Tolvanen LW Sioux City
1 15 NY Islanders Klim Kostin RW Dynamo Moscow
1 16 Toronto Callan Foote D Kelowna
1 17 Boston Martin Necas C Kometa Brno
1 18 Calgary Nick Suzuki C Owen Sound
1 19 San Jose Lias Andersson C HV71
1 20 St. Louis Conor Timmins D Sault Ste. Marie

This is the middle of my mock.

- manvanfan


Interesting for sure. I have necas and Pettersson in the top 10.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 9:43 PM ET
Am I being that yet?
- Reubenkincade

Never
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 9:49 PM ET
Interesting for sure. I have necas and Pettersson in the top 10.
- belcherbd

Im sure we will think its all over.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 15 @ 10:39 PM ET
1 10 Florida Kristian Vesalainen RW Frolunda HC
1 11 Los Angeles Michael Rasmussen C Tri-City
1 12 Carolina Elias Pettersson C Timrå IK
1 13 Winnipeg Juuso Välimäki D Tri-City
1 14 Tampa Bay Eli Tolvanen LW Sioux City
1 15 NY Islanders Klim Kostin RW Dynamo Moscow
1 16 Toronto Callan Foote D Kelowna
1 17 Boston Martin Necas C Kometa Brno
1 18 Calgary Nick Suzuki C Owen Sound
1 19 San Jose Lias Andersson C HV71
1 20 St. Louis Conor Timmins D Sault Ste. Marie

This is the middle of my mock.

- manvanfan


Can't wait for 21-60!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 15 @ 10:51 PM ET
I don't know why is Kapanen still in the minors? Why did Nylander go back after being a PPG player? Why would Toronto do that?

I realize that in a cap tight NHL that Toronto was able to have $10 in contracts in the minors.

Drew Stafford, P.A. Pareanteau got 6th round picks.
Jarome Iginla a conditional 4th. Dwight King a 4th.
Viktor Stalberg a 3rd.
Tomas Jurco a 3rd
Ron Hainseys a 2nd
Vern Fiddler a 4th.

Clearly it's hard to find people to take old scraps.

- manvanfan


You changed that up with using old star players as examples to scraps when I thought we were talking about plug scraps (Skille & Megna type). Or maybe there is a definition misunderstanding here. Anyway, we can agree to disagree.

The market is tight at TDL. Very specific needs and moves are made in a measured way. Taking on a strategy to sign plug UFA's to trade off at TDL is a risky affair. To do that just to keep players who are ready to play in the NHL off the roster just seems counter to development. The type of invoking a new culture and way to play. Which is what I thought the rebuild under a Green is supposed to be about.

Anyway, it's fine your point may have worked for other teams. I agree to disagree that's what the Canucks need. We'll see what they do about it.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 15 @ 11:00 PM ET
Interesting for sure. I have necas and Pettersson in the top 10.
- belcherbd


Yeah would be a surprise if they dropped into middle round or beyond 12.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 15 @ 11:10 PM ET
Does anyone know or remember from World juniors or u18s or from a website whether or not MARTIN NECAS plays strictly center or does he play the wing too?
- manvanfan


A C playing W is easy. Wing is the easiest position on the ice.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

May 15 @ 11:11 PM ET
Bonino 1 cup
Sutter 0 cups


- manvanfan


Two guys, one cup

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 11:12 PM ET
You changed that up with using old star players as examples to scraps when I thought we were talking about plug scraps (Skille & Megna type). Or maybe there is a definition misunderstanding here. Anyway, we can agree to disagree.

The market is tight at TDL. Very specific needs and moves are made in a measured way. Taking on a strategy to sign plug UFA's to trade off at TDL is a risky affair. To do that just to keep players who are ready to play in the NHL off the roster just seems counter to development. The type of invoking a new culture and way to play. Which is what I thought the rebuild under a Green is supposed to be about.

Anyway, it's fine your point may have worked for other teams. I agree to disagree that's what the Canucks need. We'll see what they do about it.

- Nuck4U


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 15 @ 11:12 PM ET
What I think JB's board looks like for the top 5
Hischier
Patrick
Liljegren
Mittelstadt
Glass

- manvanfan


Patrick
Nico
Mittelstadt
Heiskanen
Glass
Makar
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 11:12 PM ET
Yeah would be a surprise if they dropped into middle round or beyond 12.
- Nuck4U


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 15 @ 11:20 PM ET
I'd be happy with Mittelstadt if available or Glass.
With Heiskanen rocketing up the list & Makar is a PP QB.
If JB sees D our need/BPA thats fine also.

No interest in Vilardi or Rasmussen.
V played wing all year & idc for one with our 1st.
Rasmussen 5v5 points r a red flag.

Really high on Petersen if we can get another 1st somehow
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 15 @ 11:21 PM ET
Patrick
Nico
Mittelstadt
Heiskanen
Glass
Makar

- Nighthawk


Is that yours or your guess @ Benning's?
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